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January 06, 2011 06:44:28 CJR   Dam , Mr. Jackson, You got up at the wrong side of the bed ! but anyways you are right. don\'t blame the jersey folks or the city folks. I live in Northern Jersey. in Sussex County, which is 99 % Farm Land and Wooded Area. also I own a piece of land in Masonville. which we paid @ a fair price and pay taxes on. So, you hit the nail. thanks for fighting for us downstaters..
January 05, 2011 22:10:20 Bob Jackson   Like to clear up a few misconceptions!!!!!!!! How you can use the term invasion is beyond me!! Last time we bought property we payed MORE then fair price to an agent who represented that farmer at a good price. No one forced them or their children to take all that inflated money.. And as for cost to clean up one\'s property what happened to good old manpower it work\'s for me. And thanks for the information that down the street has been operating for the last few year as a junk yard. Didn\'t know there was a permit to operate already. Have you seen one? And by the way don\'t you think enough is enough about downstaters I\'m sick and tired of everyone blaming us flatlanders for all the troubles up here. We have the same right you do to live anywhere we want, we pay the same taxes as you do and have to follow the same laws. At least this is one downstaters that isn\'t afraid to use a real name as this bulletin board requests.
January 04, 2011 23:09:30 Les   The house on cole rd with the fence, the homeowners were thrown out years ago by child protective services,they had young kids.This house was nothing like the Gray\'s issue.It was more like hoarders on tv.The people who lived there,not a mean one or bad one in the bunch.The place has been drastically cleaned up already.Most of the cars are gone.This is a whole diffrent issue,not an \"eyesore\"but bad liveing conditions.
January 04, 2011 22:52:49 Les   Thank you Craig for thinking about "us""Masonville"and its diverse citizens.The fight is with us as a town not to have to live like the status quo.These bs laws in our great USA need to be reread and rethought by good common sense grassroots Americans.And put an end to politics as usual.God made ten commandments,since then man made thousands.
January 04, 2011 21:27:15 Craig DuMond   I have given these issues plenty of thought, lost a lot of sleep and struggle to balance enforcement of State laws with common sense. I have lived in this Town all my life and know almost everyone personally. No one is being singled out or picked on. The other property discussed regarding the fence; this property too is being litigated against to address the health and safety issues contained within. The fence to my knowledge (addressed long before me) what put up by the property owner, not the Town. There are numerous other properties being addressed not just the property on Steam Mill. As stated in previous posts; we are living in a litigious society, full of lawyers, ready to sue "deep pocketed" towns with a moments notice. Once we receive a legitimate complaint we dont have a choice but to address it. Lawyers and Courts do not accept "this is masonville and this is he way it has been for years" defense. No or inappropriate action equals every taxpayer being on the hook ie attorneys fees to defend allegations as well as damages regarding prevailing suits. With that being said all I can promise is to treat every case as fairly and equally as possible with the highest degree of common sense allowed by law. I a happy to discuss this with an constituent and/or hear any suggestions that may help us represent you the best way possible. Please contact me and I will be more than willing to hear you out.
January 04, 2011 15:24:09 Grumpy Ernst Keidel That, TX, is because that bear is now hibernating!
January 04, 2011 14:41:10 TX   It is good to see that Shears rd ,have been left alone.for a while.LOL LOL.
January 04, 2011 13:43:22 taxpayer   tuth seeker , maybe our supervisor should give this some thought.
January 04, 2011 10:39:48 truth seeker   So how is the permit issue going? I'm not to sure of the date, but not to long ago, the town put up a huge fence around a property on a dead end road who'm house, yard and family living was a dump. They couldn't get them to do it or move and there were rumors of drug traffic between that home on the hill (near a quarry) and state land. I know the peoples names but will not type it. and I am sure a number of you know what property I am talking about. So now there is a 4 way stop there and the property and all its junk and odor and filth is still there...but we put a nice fence around it so it didn't bother anyone. Out of sight out of did that all work?? Just curious to know seems like different rules for different folks. You may not care for the grays and how they live, but Marv was a good man. He was always there to help. I recall the flood and how his whole family went to the fire house and cooked for the volunteers. He would always help out his neighbor with anything that he had, and for someone who had so little, that was worth millions. How do we get the permit for the junk yard passed? Does the town vote, do we have a voice...because frankly you may be sitting in those seats that we voted you into, but you speak not for us, the people of Masonville, but for yourselves and for the city people who moved up here and believe they can take over on our town board and our town roads, and our homes...times are changing and the vote needs to change too it seems. Be for the people of your town, try to help them, not hurt them. Sad! I have sat in your meetings a listened to you all go on and on and on about stuff, and when a subject comes up that is personal to one of you, it's dismissed or you find stupid things to delay it. This is not politics its personal. Just because you hold a seat on the board, a seat we all gave you mind you, you do not have the right to dismiss most of masonville for your own agenda. everyone knows what you are doing, so it is clear that your only interest is for self or your family needs. you moved here seeing that view before you built you home, and now after how many years you finally see it??? Please...enough is enough, give them the permit. Most of the town wants it. Start the new year with peace and lets move on shall we!
January 04, 2011 07:51:35 taxpayer   Les, thank you, it is nice to see someone look as this in an unselfish way. We are a town of dirt roads, pot holes and yes, junk yards. Within reason none of these will hurt us. Seems to be the city folk on steam mill that have the issues, I am glad that they do not live on my road.
January 03, 2011 23:43:42 Les   Progress costs money.I would rather deal with some potholes to negotiate on my road,then know some poor sap has to deal with higher taxes.
January 01, 2011 21:20:49 Old Man   The comparison between Lake Cecil Rd. and Steam Mill Rd. [junk yard] was not to stir the Lake Cecil issue, but to point out that people buy property under present and surrounding conditions and then expect neighbors to change anything that does not suit them. Improvements are nice if they can be afforded, but should not have to be done under pressure from new or implanted land owners.
January 01, 2011 14:23:12 Craig DuMond   The Town is actually working on numerous code-related issues on a number of different properties. I can assure you that everyone is treated fairly, equally and with a high degree of due process. We do not want to be involved in property owners lives unless we absolutely have to be. Unfortunately, in these days and times, once we receive a complaint if we do take take appropriate action we subject ourselves to liability. i.e. every taxpayer being on the hook. We always do everything possible to apply the highest degree of common sense and afford the owner every attempt to rectify the situation and/or work things out prior to taking further action. Feel free to contact me at any time to discuss.
January 01, 2011 12:05:28 taxpayer   Maybe the town board and Supervisor should drive around town and look on the hillsides,valleys and yes,even the back yards for more than one junk car and if these residents have not applied for a junk yard permit they should or they should be treated like the Gray family is being treated. How many times have any of us needed a car part and made some calls to junk yards to find that part cheaper than at an auto parts store? Please lets be friends and treat all equally.
January 01, 2011 10:39:22 Craig DuMond   p.s. Much work has been put into Lake Cecil over the years and we will continue to maintain the road on a annual basis as needed.
January 01, 2011 10:36:38 Craig DuMond   In regard to the Lake Cecil resident; My statement was not made out of frustration but by means of considering dollars and cents. Lake Cecil is a dead end and has always been a dirt road and contains very few residents. The gentleman requested the entire road be paved, which is just not fiscally possible. We have many more through roads in terrible condition that need our attention first. I simply told the gentleman it would be impossible to do and unless something changes with the situation dont expect the road to be paved anytime in the future. Even though I sympathize with his position I could not be anything but frank and honest about the situation. The Town Board has been looking at improvements over the last few years; the pole barn (finally) to protect the Town's equipment from the elements being one and finally updating the Town Hall another. We continue to invest in our roads based on a fairly established priority list and maintain a well-equipped highway department. We are always open to suggestions for continuous improvement as no single person has all the answers but collectively we can accomplish a lot. Happy New Year to you and yours and may the bicentennial be a grand one!
January 01, 2011 01:04:03 Lynn   Hi Old Man. I can\'t believe you remember what Craig said to the resident on Lake Cecil Road. I also remember it, but not so fondly. I got the impression that maybe the resident was pestering Craig and that was why he answered without any thought. Not only should the TOM roads be maintained for all of its taxpayers it should also look towards progress.
December 31, 2010 20:45:51 Les   My neighbors are people,not houses,or front yards.
December 31, 2010 16:35:28 tazpayer   Observer- This is true and only shows that as time passes we all learn to accept change and make the best of it. Happy New Year to all.
December 31, 2010 12:30:17 Old Man   If I am correct, Craig told the resident from Lake Cecil Rd. that the road was a gravel road when he moved there and will remain gravel for a long time to come, the same should be true for the junk yard issue on Steam Mill Rd, after all, the 3rd generation is still operating this business.
December 31, 2010 11:01:56 Observer   Taxpayer - Keep in mind it was the farmer next door who sold the land to build the new house on.
December 31, 2010 08:57:19 taxpayer   To all worried about how our wonderful Masonville may look. If your house is under60 years old, you invaded the farmland that made this town. How do you think the farmer next door felt when that new house was built? Maybe they felt they did not like what they saw and it was hurting the land with the new that they brought and all the new people and their doings. We all need to live with change and deal with the ones left who are still making a living the way their grandfathers and great grandfathers did. So lets get along.
December 31, 2010 06:54:21 Tony - CR-20   Wishing everyone in Masonville Health; Wealth and Happiness in 2011!
December 31, 2010 00:15:32 CrzyFlea   Funny there is such a fuss about a 3rd generation junk yard. If I\'m not mistaken, there was even a junk yard in that location before Eldred purchased it. Seems now though we\'ve got arrogant nosey ninnies moving into the area who don\'t know how to look out to the right going up a hill and left when going down it but boy are they good at looking down their nose. Don\'t you think the Gray\'s would be the first ones concerned with the potential contaminants going into the ground, its their water it would get to first. Doesn\'t seem like they\'ve got bad water at all though - maybe you should try it and find out. Furthermore, I don\'t know how many a times there are locals who wouldn\'t have a working vehicle if it hadn\'t been for that junk yard and Eldred, Marv or Steve.
December 30, 2010 21:50:30 bertimouse   Speaking of roads being trashed by various sources: just wait until they start drilling for gas; all ye who are "friends of gas drilling" - Our house calls 'em "friends of Poison Water" amoung other things. Folks; yall need to calm down & be at Peace for 2011. Stay Positive. Love Thy Neighbor. PRAYER always helps. Try it as a scientific test, if you will. Things WILL always get better if only you will just believe it will & work towards that end. Find out what YOU can do to Help, not hinder, you know? TOM, here's wishing us one & all the best for this next decade. May every one of us do better with everything we do because we are strong, independent, brave & proud of our community. Have a safe & Happy New Year TOM. -Nuff said.
December 29, 2010 14:56:53 Masonville resident   Old Man--you certainly are right, the town does make the most trips up that road and any other town road in the winter. So if we don't want loggers or scrap trucks traveling our roads we don't want them plowed either. So maybe we should all learn how to drive like the old folks from Masonville and not like City Folk !!
December 29, 2010 14:50:12 Old Man   Maybe we should ask the Highway Dept. to stay off of steam mill rd. plowing a 1/2 in. of snow if everyone is worried about the truck traffic doing damage to this road. Not that long ago, snow was plowed when it was 6 to 12 inches deep and everyone handled it just fine.
December 29, 2010 14:08:35 taxz payer   truth seeker--very well said,why can't we all just look the other way if we don't like someone or something, we all have neighbors we do not care for ( if not we are very lucky} So lets all grow up and forget about the "Steam Mill Issue"
December 29, 2010 10:21:29 TOM Webmaster   Truth Seeker - You will find a copy of the TOM Junk regulations posted on the official TOM site. You can get to it easy by going to the Home Page of this site and clicking on the "Official Link".
December 29, 2010 09:54:40 truth seeker   Just curious...what are the local requirements regarding the Grays junk yard. I keep reading and hearing about these "local requirements" but when Ms. Ryan was asked to show them she would not and told people to get their own copies! hmmmmm something stinks of prejudicial politics if you ask me. From the minutes in october "Bob Jackson asked about the application for the Grays Junkyard permit. Craig stated that it was a License given by the State not a permit by the Town. Bob explained that Steam Mill Road is all ready bad enough and wonders what might happen to the road if it experiences increased truck traffic. Craig responded that it the road is damaged; the Town can recover associated costs from the owner/operator/etc. Craig reported that Kathy will give a full report during the committee reports." (So did we get any $$ from the loggers?? ah road damage? Its a dirt road for the love of god. Its been *CENSORED* for over 30+ years...)"Kathy Ryan reported that Steven Gray has got 2 permits-an Auto repair shop & Scrap collection business. Kathy also stated that according to NYS to get a license the application for permit should have included the Towns ordinances or laws. Kathy explained this means the landowner must first apply to the Town for approval and must still abide by the Town Laws. Kathy has FOILED the State for copies of everything submitted to the State regarding the license. The CEO reported he will be working with Kathy and the Town attorney regarding this issue." Ok what happens now if he applies for town approval?? Just wondering...where can these reports be seen and viewed by the people of Masonville, I would imagine they are now part of the public record, right? Or does the board want everyone in masonville to get their own copies. Really?? Come on. Grow up and stop throwing stones in your glass one is without their "issues" and "past"...just some are kinder and don't go after others publicly because they don't like the way they live, look or exist!!! Grow up.
December 29, 2010 05:56:20 Grumpy Ernst Keidel And yet, Observer, there ARE restrictions. One may not carry inside schools and government buildings. This means I have to secure my firearms inside my vehicle gunsafe even if I just enter the post office to mail something. And of course, the BIG restriction displayed right on the back of the license: THOU SHALT NOT CARRY YOUR WEAPON IN NYC! Naturally, this is quite ironic, as NYC is the place you may need it most!
December 27, 2010 12:05:36 Observer   Mr Keidel mentions something in his note that I hear a lot around the area. He mentions he is licensed to carry a concealed firearm. To the best of my knowledge Delaware county does not issue restricted permits. I have held a Delaware county permit since 1958 and it has no restrictions nor have I ever seen a Delaware county permit with restrictions unless they have started issuing them recently. I know some of the surrounding counties do issue permits on that basis. I recall while living in Suffolk county the authorities there attempted to tell us that our upstate permits were not valid there but a letter from the Superintendent of State Police soon got that straightened out. Thus saying one is licensed to carry concealed in Delaware county is redundent. Although I will say carrying a weapon concealed on your person in this day and age could get ya killed and not by the bad guy either. LOL
December 25, 2010 13:28:16 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Best of the season's greetings to all. This holiday has been quite peaceful so far, as it should be. In the past week, we've had house guests. My brother-in-law was visiting from Seoul, Korea and my eldest son came up from Massachusetts. Number One Son Armin set a lot of things right with my computer and made a worthwhile visit with me to my favorite gun shop in Oneonta. He too is licensed to carry concealed, albeit in MA. A couple of days ago, everybody cleared out, leaving me alone with the cats. Armin had to return to his fire-fighting job in Fitchburg, MA and wife and niece went to see brother/father off at JFK. He's in the air now and my ladies are on their way back to me. I've missed them! I do love my Steam Mill Road solitude.
December 25, 2010 00:07:35 RangerDanger   Merry Christmas everyone!
December 24, 2010 22:15:52 Les   Merry Christmas everyone!,,"and on earth peace and goodwill towards men".God bless everyone.
December 24, 2010 22:09:31 Les   Well said Observer.The way I look at it,if these citizens of the United States,New york,Masonville,pay taxes and are happy with their lives,let them live the way they choose.An "eye sore" is not something physically harming anyone.Your eyes are going to be fine.
December 23, 2010 18:32:57 Masonville resident forever   to observer, you are right and all we can do is set an example for others. Some always live with some junk, but that does not make them bad people. Lets all just be friends and get along.
December 23, 2010 16:26:20 Observer   Come on folks. While no one likes some of the properties we might see in the area lets face it; Masonville is NOT on the list of 10 most exclusive zip codes nor is it a planned gated community. People tend to live the way they see best for themselves not the way others might want them to live. All we can do is be an example to others and encourage others to take pride in the community but we will always have those who live in a manner others might not find to their liking.
December 23, 2010 15:41:09 CCJR   to MV resident forever: Is not about how much you make or have in the bank, is just clean up the property. take all trash , eye sore,motors, crush cars ,etc. of the front lawns, just keep it neat and clean, you dont have to spend money to keep your place clean, if you cannot have haul away , just burn it ! no money required... so, is not money/income issuse, its just people like to live in dump and people are pack rats !. theres a big eyesore coming west on 206 right before rt 8 interchange theres a junk yard on the right, and once you turn on to rt 8 south theres another junk/mess on the left after the church.. come on,people wake up and clean MV UP..! ps: am sorry if I offend anyone but thats my 2 cents,!
December 23, 2010 09:23:56 Masonville resident forever   the ones with the most comments on our unhealthy properties seem to have moved here within the past 15 or so years. You moved here because Masonville was a wonderful community, so stop trying to start trouble and yes it was nice then, because we all got along and there was not a lot of back stabbing. If you do not like how something looks try to remember that not all of us have a great retirement check and we are making a living the way we always have, by hard work. Maybe the town board members,the ones who attend the meetings and those who comment on this message should help the less fortunate and quit complaining.
December 23, 2010 06:13:21 downslope   Yea my water stinks to.
December 22, 2010 01:40:28 RangerDanger   My water must be bad then. I never achieved honor roll once I got into highschool. I suppose I stopped caring about my grades. I spent more time chasing tail than studying in the last few years.
December 19, 2010 23:00:26 Les   Congrats Grumpy!My oldest daughter was on the 'superintendents' list (high,high honor roll),first quarter of Sidney junior high.Must be our water in Masonville is still good?
December 19, 2010 16:10:50 Grumpy Ermst Keidel Korean Visitor! Anyone driving past my home on Steam Mill Road, may have noticed the Korean flag flying beneath my usual Stars and Stripes. My brother-in-law Kim, Jae In is visiting this week from Seoul. He is my darling Hayo's brother as well as the father of our lovely niece Kim, Nam Kyung. Nammy has lived with us for almost three years already and hopes to graduate from Sidney High this year. She's been maintaining a 99.97 GPA!
December 18, 2010 16:16:41 Les   What?
December 18, 2010 14:18:47 FYI   Did you know that: 1. a copy of the NYS Fire & Building Code can be viewed at the Sidney Library in the Reference Section 2. For General Housekeeping requirements for property owners see-Chapter 3, Sec.01 of the Maintenance code 3. For all appointed officials like the Code Enforcement Officer, the Town is required to have a job description in place. See Delaware Co. \"Personnel\" Office for typical job descriptions. Includes assessor, animal control officer and hwy personnel. (www.Co.delaware.NY.US) Comments/ Suggestions CEO should have \"open hours\" to answer questions(similar to what the accessor does)
December 18, 2010 03:52:21 Les   Speaking of NJ and their anti hunters,reminds me of a true story years ago about how a park out west didn't like wolves eating their Elk.Killed all the wolves.The Elk pop. went up,they were happy.A hard winter hit and the park was left with many fewer Elk than when they had wolves.They starved to death,because the lack of natural preditation left more Elk than the land could support.And I'm NOT advocating wolves to be reintroduced in NY or NJ just let the people hunt.
December 18, 2010 03:39:52 Les   The good people of NJ have fought hard to be able to reduce the bear pop.The bear are known to break into cars for food,no garbage can or dumpster is safe.They will break into garages if garbage cans or pet food are stored there.Eat small pets if left outside.There deer pop. is out of control too.Evidence of this is not only from property damage,and vehicle damage,but the fact NJ can shoot as many does as they want,just have to buy tags.Shoot a doe buy another tag.The bear numbers in NJ aren't where they are because we have more proficient hunters,but the fact that they haven't been allowed to kill them for many years.Maybe we can get our pop. up if we outlaw bear hunting,and get lovely pictures of bear eating out of our bird feeders,and live in fear of letting our children play outside.Talk to a farmer and they will tell you of the destruction of their baleage and corn.
December 17, 2010 23:53:49 bertimouse   Les: I think it was more like 700 bears they got in NJ.
December 17, 2010 23:50:50 bertimouse   Thanks Les. Didn't know. Happy Hunting during the Holidays I guess. Hey did you hear they hunted over 500 bears in NJ in something like 7 days recently? Seems NJ wanted to reduce their bear population down to 3,500 bears. Seems they have MORE bears downstate than around our parts? I think DEC says we have maybe 3,000? Now that's just not right. Maybe 'cause we have better full-time hunters here? Maybe 'cause our visiting hunters are more dedicated? Maybe 'cause our forests that support bears are disappearing faster here then there? I don't know.
December 17, 2010 03:29:23 Les   I think your right cc.The rest of Masonville state land roads were much more traveled.Not just tire tracks but boot tracks all over.Seen more hunters on state lands opening day than I have in many years.I heard that bear don't truly hibernate in southern NY.I have seen bear sign throughout the winter and into april trout season.
December 16, 2010 20:44:41 bertimouse   Aren't bears supposed to be hibernating now? I thought you don't see them much after Dec. - except that one time up in Unadilla where the bird feeders & the back porch door where destroyed by something larger than a fox I can say that much!
December 16, 2010 18:21:04 CC   Les,I think all the BS about the deers and The Evil Bear around Shears rd was just someone trying to get hunters away from his area and into Shears Rd.think about it,I hunted off Shears and saw a few hunters,locals and out of state,but not many deers upthere,saw signs but not deers.
December 16, 2010 16:40:10 Observer   LOL - LOL I must have been smoking some of Bob's Pot!!! I should have said "Jacob" Marley not BOB!! LOLLOL
December 16, 2010 02:09:02 ????   Wasn't Bob Marley a Pot-Head?
December 15, 2010 22:42:02 Les   Drove one end of shear rd to the other twice,not a single deer or evil bear track!Didn't feel the need to get out and wander in the cold with no sign.Either the posts before season were all hype or they wrapped all your deer up in towels and took them home with them!
December 15, 2010 22:30:45 Les   The Grinch learned too!'It's a wonderful life',might be a hundred years newer but still over sixty years old,a more modern version would be,,,maybe the remakes of the classic?I think 'Charlie Browns Christmas'captures the spirit of Christmas.Linus's speach towards the end really grounds us to remembering what the reason for the season is all about.
December 15, 2010 21:44:21 JCR   Well, Did anybody caught that evil masonville bear ? a huge buck of shears road,. after all that news on shear rd this past fall ?? or did the rag heads from another staes took them ????
December 15, 2010 12:00:18 Observer   While Charles Dickens' story "A Christmas Carol" is, and has been, since 1843 looked upon as a story of the conversion of a stingy, cold, reclusive old man; it is actually a condemnation of the Industrial Revolution and the division it caused btween the have and the have nots; and the unfair practices of the rich. - Charles Dickens had seen the unfair use of the poor by the rich as a youth and had a great deal of empathy for the unfortunate. - The change portrayed in Ebenezer Scrooge was meant to indicate our ability to overcome our self-centeredness. A more modern portrayal of the same concept is "It's A Wonderful Life". - While the word "Scrooge" and "Bah Humbug" have become part of the language it is not really what Dickens was trying to say. So, may each of us receive a visit from "our" Bob Marley this season and turn us toward the real Spirit of Christmas.
December 15, 2010 09:39:04 tax payer   Stop looking as far as Steam Mill and open your eyes, there are other junk yards within sight of our state roads and they are to be seen as clearly or more if you look beyond your nose. Maybe the town people should leave one family alone or get after everyone, be fair about this.
December 15, 2010 06:51:38 scrooge   Bah Humbug!!!
December 14, 2010 18:19:30 bertimouse   Here, Here Observer! Happy Holidays Folks. Have a Great One, Every One Of Us, Big & Small, one for all in the Beautiful Land of Who-ville oops I meant Masonville. :)
December 14, 2010 11:43:29 Observer   May all in Masonville have a wonderful and blessed Christmas and keep at the center of your gatherings and celebrations the reason for this season.
December 12, 2010 08:53:41 Craig DuMond   I will plan to have the POC within the FD reach out to the SCSD following our organizational meeting on 1/5/11. The playground is the logical choice for the place to gather after the parade. Please stay tuned. Also, I see that the district has yet another new Superintendent. As always, I plan to meet with him to introduce myself and forge new beginnings/relationships.
December 11, 2010 23:05:22 Les   Yes all spilt water over the bridge.Kind of feels like it's an alien life form in the middle of Masonville.Wasn't the vote for school board after the closures a big turnout?I think maybe the town should get rallied behind the useage of the land behind the school.Remember the last day of school picnics?My daughter was in K when it closed and going to their picnic brought back many memories.Would make an excellent spot for a Bicentennial picnic after the parade.
December 11, 2010 11:48:47 Observer   Sidney School District has its own web site. Why not ask them to include a message board?
December 10, 2010 20:21:15 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Could, but won't, Bertimouse. Not only is my site about MASONVILLE, unofficially, but I don't really want to expand it to Sidney and its associated problems. Perhaps the OFFICIAL Masonville site would be interested in something like that. Regards, -- Grumpy
December 10, 2010 19:43:42 bertimouse   Craig: P.S. - Can Grumpy open up a special section just about the SCSD? A link that would be for parents, kids, teachers & others within the district just to only talk about school affairs? That would be cool. :)
December 10, 2010 19:34:17 Bertimouse   Craig: The SCSD spent approx. 3.5 mil on one elem. school and about 3.1 mil on the other. They had over $200K in change orders just for those 2 little schools to remove all the asbestos in both schools; which the district had bad (falsified?) asbestos reports about. They had a MAJOR change order for the MV school because the original North side addition chewed into an un-buildable hillside. -You can thank the high-priced, Albany Architects for designing something so stupid on a hillside! The MV elem. school part of that project also had a HUGE change order because it's basement was basically a swimming pool to get to valves, etc. that the maintenance dept. needed to access for obvious reasons. A large part of the change orders were originated by the Maintenance Superintendent at the time; who pointed out very obvious things that "oops the Designers forgot". I know that SCSD fought the Architects for funds to return because of all the screw-ups that WE had to pay for, I just don't know how much they got out of that deal. Does anyone know? There were MUCH BETTER, LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS that SCSD should have hired in the first place but ah, it's all spilt water over the bridge now anyway. We have much more competent people running the district now, right? These new folks got stuck with everyone retiring; like rats leaving a burning ship is how I thought about it. That's all I have to say about that.
December 10, 2010 04:24:38 Les   I thought recycling scrap metal and recycling already existing car parts instead of buying cheap inferior chinese parts was "green".If the place was a little more profesional and businness like, instead of the way it has been for thirty years make you feel better.
December 10, 2010 04:12:58 Les   Between one and eight depending on where you go.The wind has really blown it around.
December 09, 2010 21:05:17 Majtom   How much snow is there on the hill in Masonville? Was thinking of coming up for the weekend
December 09, 2010 20:47:38 Craig DuMond   Any specific complaints need to be addressed to the Code Enforcement Officer, Joe Reynolds. The Town will not accept anonymous complaints. Any issue that needs to be addressed will be do so in a fair manner and in accordance with NYS and Town law.
December 09, 2010 17:28:25 go green   you should go and voilate grays garage I allways see them bringing new junk into the yard . Its a residential area . It looks disgusting in there now there is a new dwelling in there . does Joe Renolds know about it. I am sure all those cars are leaking oil and fluids into mother earth .But thats ok!!!!!
December 09, 2010 16:13:52 cc   Is not cold,is in your head.
December 09, 2010 15:53:28 Craig DuMond   Hi, Les - The Town is not "going after" anyone. There have been complaints made about specific violations and the Town has an obligation to follow up those complaint and address any issue that is a violation. Any complaint received is addressed fairly and with a common sense approach.
December 09, 2010 08:47:22 Tx   It is COLD!!!!!!
December 08, 2010 22:33:12 Les   Just a question.Is the town going after the Gray's for any reason or is just a formality?I thought there was already a junk yard and garage there for many years.As far as extra damage to the road what about log trucks and the increase in traffic from hunters.An eyesore?How it was already there.Its on a backroad and if you don't slow down and stare you wont even notice it.
December 08, 2010 19:18:11 Craig DuMond   Hi Berti - I would certainly welcome any assistance with the former are certainly encouraged to try. As far as mudslinging is concerned, I sling no mud...just proven facts with plenty of documents to support my position. The only mudslinging (deformation) was done by the SCSD in a cheap attempt to discredit me and deflect the truth. Bottom line...they spent over 8 million dollars on two schools they closed 14 months after completing the work. These facts are indisputable and a mismanagement of taxpayer money. No wonder NYS is in the fiscal situation it is. No mudslinging...just facts :)
December 08, 2010 19:00:50 Bertimouse   Craig: Some thoughts about the Sidney CSD here: 1)Just because the Sidney SD is now leasing to a second party a)doesn't mean that we can't negotiate with the second party, b)doesn't mean that we the taxpayers don't have a say in the SCSD's financial transactions! 2)The problem of mud-slinging is that some of the mud sticks to the slinger, Craig. You do sling some mud with your comments at the TOM mtgs. which some folks don't care for. But we here in our household understand. We live & Let Live because we understand your hard work & sometimes utter Frustration! 3)Just because the SCSD BOE won't work or listen to you, doesn't mean that they won't work or listen to US: the taxpaying citizens and Parents of the children in their district! a)What is it now; over 900 households that support their 80-million dollar bond project completed in 2006? Yet some years only 300 families turn out to vote on their school budgets? b)Masonville Residents can present a proposal to the SCSD BOE. 3)A Proposal (a small compensation for taking our school away)to forever lease to TOM for $1.00 every year; all lands previously enjoyed by all the children of Masonville at MV Elementary: hereby & including the PLAYGROUND, BASKETBALL COURT, & BALLFIELDS. The SCSD also grants to TOM a 12'x 100' right of way thru the parking lot of any leasees it rents the building to. The SCSD should also agree that the TOM shall have the right to use the parking lot after the hours of XXXX. -That would have to be negotiated. Sorry so long. I'll stop.
December 08, 2010 08:31:16 Dee (Bertimouse/Craig DuMond) Thanks for the info. I will meet with some of the department members and discuss what you have proposed. I believe that it would be a great idea for the department to \"take the lead\" as you said. We are all excited about this event and want it to be a fun and memorable experience for all who attend. We will put together a few ideas and we will present them at the January 5th meeting. If anyone reading this post is interested in being a part of the committee, please email me @, or if you simply have some ideas to share to help with the event, feel free to contact me as well. I am excited to tell the department and I feel they will all be up for the challenge. Thanks for your reply. See you at the meeting.
December 07, 2010 23:23:42 Les   Craig,thank you for the time you put in trying to keep masonville school open.If the Sidney csd has ostracized you then it was well worth it.I went to Masonville school,my father did and my children just started to.Now that the three are one,and the classes are the same size,something should have been done.But not what they did.The mismanagement of taxpayers hard earned dollars should have been a criminal offense!
December 07, 2010 20:19:30 Craig DuMond   The Town hasnt yet broke ground on the expansion/rehab of the Town Hall. Regular updates on the Town's progress are normally included in the minutes of each Town Board meeting. We do not have any additional lands available for a park. Initially we wanted to work a deal with the Sidney CSD over the old Masonville school, which would have made a wondersful Town Hall/Community Center/Park, however, the Sidney CSD Board and Superintendent dont particularly care for me or my ramblings about their mismanagement of public, that was a deal that was never going to happen from the start. I am sure Grumpy will update this site with some photos of our progress and I will supply our webmaster photos as well for the 'official' site. Thanks for your comments and feedback...all are appreciated...good or bad. Also, we are looking for any and all volunteers for Masonville's 200th!!! I like the idea of the FD heading up the committee if they are willing. Please come to the next Boad meeting on January 5th!!!
December 07, 2010 19:47:46 Bertimouse   Hey Craig: KUDOS on the purchase of the cheap temporary-office, while the new Town Hall is being built. I guess you give an update to the public on the status of that project at every TOM board mtg., right? It's too bad that more people don't know about all the work you guys have done about that - how about updating the website with photos of the ground-breaking work? How about a special section on the website just to proudly document TOM'S progress, eh? BTW, TOM will desperately need a TOWN SQUARE, or TOWN PARK where everyone can fit into - to celebrate our 200th Anniversary. Does the new Town Hall set aside any lands for a Town Park? Just asking & curious is all. Again, thanks for saving us some coin. :)
December 07, 2010 19:31:31 Bertimouse   Dee: I have several great ideas for the Parade & Celebration of TOM'S 200th Anniversary one is: How about having the Fire Dept. take the Lead in organizing this event? The TOM FD has the most connections around & they already have such a good network of folks that know how to organize things. Now THAT would be a good Proposal for the next TOM Board mtg., eh? :)
December 07, 2010 17:39:47 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Am I "white thrash" yet? I've lived in Masonville just over 11 years now and am trying hard to fit in. I'm even learning to pronouce truck with two syllables; you know: "tru-uck" -- while I am white, the rest of my family is Asian, or mixed race: Eurasian. May we still qualify as white thrash? I hope so; we really like it here.
December 07, 2010 09:46:31 Dee   PS: To the person who called the wonderful, good hearted people of Masonville "white trash"...I have a quote to share with you: "Instead of always harping on a man's faults, tell him of his virtues. Try to pull him out of his rut of bad habits. Hold up to him his better self, his real self that can dare and do and win out." Making things better for our community is everyones hopes and wishes. However, name calling is not the way to do it. Perhaps you may want to start the change by looking at yourself, and seeking out how you can do something positive for your community. I wish you well and hope you can.
December 07, 2010 09:33:06 Dee Good morning everyone. I was at our monthly fire meeting last night and the topic of Masonville's 200 year anniversary came up. The Fire Department members are excited about this upcoming anniversary and would like to know what, if anything, has been discussed regarding the celebration. As a member of the department and one of the committee organizers, I would love some insight to the upcoming event. The department is looking forward to honoring our town and the wonderful community we serve at this celebration. And showing everyone who shares in this celebration, Masonville Pride at its best! Anything you can offer would be of great help. Thank you!!!
December 06, 2010 23:26:08 downslope   I was wondering if the person who calls us White Trash would like to share where he is from? Based on the way you write I`m betting you are not white but trashy. Where do you live in Masonville maybe you can tell us all on this message board so we can stop by and visit your fine cleaned up piece of AMERICA.
December 06, 2010 01:26:23 Les   Thanks for the info Craig.Maybe if people would get some real info before spouting off at the mouth we would have known this.Guess downslop was right.
December 05, 2010 19:25:43 JCR   Actually, Saw the evil masonville bear walking in the middle of shear road , heading towards state lands,. he was minding his own business, he is big,. I guess no one was lucky so far to see him and harvest him.. also seen about 30 turkeys behind the ice cream shop in the fields. this is the first time I seen a black bear in the area...
December 05, 2010 18:50:11 CC   Thanks Craig for putting everybody up to date on the RV issue,some people were not able to sleep over that,even they called the White House to ask obama about it,but first they called Old man Lee,he had no info on it,LMAO !
December 05, 2010 17:21:27 Craig DuMond   The RV in question is owned by the Town of Masonville. It is a prior FEMA camper from New Orleans (Katrina) that was actually never is brand new. We picked it up (for believe it or not $500.00)to serve as office space for the assessor once we start our town hall rehab project. This will save us from having to rent a spot. When we are through with it we can sell it privately, for as you can imagine, much more than $500.00. So this is a huge win, win for the taxpayer! We are still looking for space for the justice court...if you have any ideas please contact a board member. We have also been very fortunate to receive vehicles and other equipment from government surplus for literally pennies on the dollar, again, saving us all a lot of $$$. The Town Board is looking for volunteers for the bi-centennial. Please come to the next meeting on January 5th at 730pm to sign up! We were thinking it could be incorporated with the memorial day parade, however, we are open to any ideas.
December 05, 2010 14:54:22 CC   Where have all the deers gone to ?
December 05, 2010 09:06:56 Kathy K   Thanks Robin! It sounds like this conversation should go to the next Town Board meeting (January). I'll try to make it. Maybe the Town Board already has something in mind(?), either way, I'll be glad to volunteer.
December 05, 2010 00:21:04 Les   Guess I didn't read all the messages.Bertimouse the good people who work for the town arn't newbees.They should not feel bad if they have work and some do not.They have been working for TOM for better or worse.Would you like to clear the roads all day and night every snow storm all winter.Hats off to the TOM workers,the TOWN thanks you!Maybe ya guys should park a couple more RV's your 4wheelers,tractors and what ever else ya feel like,cause it isn't costing us anything except for the dignity of the envious that wouldn't be willing to do your job.
December 05, 2010 00:02:45 me   Guess I spelled it wrong,she was "PISSSED".Or I could be wrong maybe she was just angry.
December 04, 2010 23:52:54 Les   Wow!Had an idea for all the unhappy people.Can you guys come up with maybe,I don't know,tens of thousands of dollars to pay for the TAXES of the people you complain about.I can almost guarantee if you offer to pay their taxes they might let you on THIER property and help them clean up.I know a little old lady in Masonville who pays thousands of dollars every year to keep a home that has been owned by their family for over a hundred years was told that her grandsons can't store their derby cars there.WOW was she *CENSORED*!If they own the land,and pay taxes,let them live their lives!!!The same people that complain are like the ones that enslaved the Africans and wiped out the Indians!!!
December 04, 2010 23:30:33 Les   Grumpy did you hear Neita asked the doctors after they said she would be laid up for awhile to just neitly "CUT IT OFF AND PUT A FAKE ONE ON I NEED TO GET BACK TO WORK".At 80+ yrs ya gotta love her I know I do!Thank GOD they made her keep her own arm,bet she was looking foward to thumping us with a fake one!!!
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