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November 24, 2008 18:35:48 bertimouse   Hi again Kathy, Thanks for your info. Yes I remember Craig urgently speaking about NYC's LAP quite awhile back. What I can't figure out now is where NYC expects to get the $300 million to purchase yet more land for the watershed. Are they federally & state funded? -Thanks for the on-line links I'll check 'em out. Have a nice warm & snowy(!)Thanksgiving. :)
November 24, 2008 12:08:26 LOL WCBZD Merry Christmas to all from our vermin politicians in Albany and D.C. Near one trillion dollars to bail out the fat cats and corrupt bankers. What the polititians and bankers and wall street parasites spend on (w)hores and booze for one retreat would run this town for 10 years. There is not a politician in Albany or D.C. that would not cut his or her own mother's throat with a dull butter knife to further their political aspirations and greed. Like cockroaches in a NYC tenement they scamper back to their sewers when exposed to light. Like Jim Jones saying the Kool-Aid is good they tell us that they are doing what is best for us. Both cesspools of Albany and D.C. need a good pumping. We would exterminate a pack of disease laden rats and we should get rid of the rat pack gnawing holes in the fabric of society.
November 24, 2008 06:22:21 Kathy Tonight, Monday November 24th, 7 pm at the Masonville General Store the Chenango, Delaware, Otsego Gas group will be showing Rural Impact, a 30-minute documentary about the horizontal-drilling/hydraulic-fracturing gas recovery techniques coming to central New York. The film highlights communities that have experienced the problems created by this type of drilling.
November 22, 2008 13:22:13 Craig DuMond   Kathy, you understand the situation perfectly. I applaud you for being involved and concerned regarding this very alarming issue. I have been speaking about this at Town Board meetings for 2 years now. This is not chicken little! This is a cold, hard reality! EVERYONE needs to be involved to prevent us from being squeezed out by NYC....that is their ultimate goal. Craig
November 22, 2008 09:24:31 Kathy The Downeast Group is conducting a study on behalf of the County to try and project what is going to happen after the city acquires the additional land and then re-files the tax status. They had one slide that showed a dramatic drop in tax base that will take place in 10 years. The Downeast Group is projecting a 300% tax increase (after 10 years) for all the residents of Delaware County if the next phase of the LAP goes through. If anyone that is reading this has a different understanding of the situation, please correct me if I mis-stated anything here. This is new to me. Mr. Brown from the Downeast Group also said that you could e-mail comments to him at I will try to post if I hear about any more meetings. Downeast Group also has a blog at
November 22, 2008 09:19:02 Kathy Hi Bertimouse! Yes, you are missing something - good detective work! I had trouble posting so I e-mailed Grumpy and he posted my message on the 12th and then had his webmaster put up the announcement on the front page. Check the November Town meeting minutes for information about the LAP (Land Acquisition Program). What I took away from the Walton meeting is that under the LAP the city has purchased land in the watershed from willing sellers as part of their filtration avoidance agreement. Now the City is looking to begin another phase of the LAP, to spend an additional $300 million to purchase even more land in the watershed. This land will also be purchased from willing sellers. The problem for all residents of the County of Delaware is with the tax base. Initially, when the City purchases the land, they pay the same amount of tax on it (what it was assessed at) for 10 years. After 10 years, they are allowed to change the status of the land to "vacant" (lower taxes b/c they don't allow ANY development of that land whatsoever). The tax on that land drops dramatically and the County is left looking to the remaining property owners to "make up the difference". (continued)
November 22, 2008 01:38:10 Mom   And Also from Sidney and Sidney Center, Hanna Wood, Kyle McMillan, Randy Groat, Josiah Clark, Thomas Hoskins, Taylor Krom, Vanessa Stoian So your point is ?
November 21, 2008 23:26:48 CHARLES   Did you know... Shana Gascon, Jillian Young, Derek Northrop, were the first 8th grade students of the month at Sidney Central school that were educated at Masonville Elementary School? Do you still think it was a good idea to close Masonville elementary school?
November 21, 2008 22:48:14 bertimouse   Greetings Kathy, 1) I never understood your first message from 11/12. Please explain to me how you can attach files for others on this message board as maybe I'm missing something here? -I take it that you are talking about grants which is a great thing for all of us that can qualify. 2)What is your "current important news" on the "first page" on your 11/15 post about eh? 3)Can you please report to me/us on-line about the 11/17th meeting at Walton on the State of Delaware County's Economic Development? Please do tell Lady. 4)I give you seven stars ******* for having the courage & commitment for that & posting, Kathy. :)
November 20, 2008 08:09:57 LOLKITTY   blahhhhhhhh
November 15, 2008 07:55:01 Kathy For anyone that might have missed the "Current Important News" on the first page, please make sure you check it out. It is the Delaware County Department of Economic Development press release that I was referring to in the November 12th post here. The meeting that is closest to Masonville is Monday, November 17th at the Walton High School and it starts at 6:30pm.
November 15, 2008 00:30:05 bertimouse   China currently has a 2 TRILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS right now & yet they have the GALL to ask us to give them money to bail them out - 1)Because they say their money problems are "all our fault"?!? 2)To help them pay for THEIR pollution controls, because we caused most of it therefore they shouldn't be doing the same things we are even though they are causing most of it now?!? - LOL please boycott all CHINESE products everywhere. Unfortunately that means almost all products sold by our local gas-stations, KMart, WalMart & Dollar stores nowadays, err. The GOOD NEWS is that we have our own local Masonville General Store that we all can shop at for natural foods, hardware items & really nice Christmas presents made in the u.s.a. Please support & keep our money local by shopping there instead.************ I don't think I've ever seen anything in there with a "made in China" sticker on it. And anyone else that has a business in this town should advertise on this Message Board yes? We in my household will try & keep our cash local this winter for sure. Have a great hunting wknd. :) :)
November 12, 2008 23:48:03 Peter Sucharski Regarding the wind energy in Masonville, I agree that the wind resources are not the strongest in the country. Any calm day means: no production of power. Such interruption can be translated into poor reliability. However, problems of this nature are everywhere with wind farms. To overcome it, large wind farms have fuel burning generators that support power production during calm days. Well, I have better idea. Just in few year solar panels will be twice as much efficient and will cost half price. This means, 4 x more energy for each dolar spent. A combination of wind and solar will become a winner. But the wind turbine must be large-scale, 2-3MW, placed of the top of a hill. Is there anyone who would like to join me?
November 12, 2008 11:45:31 Kathy   This is Kathy Klopchin writing to you. I live over on the south side of Masonville, just off of Route 8 in Whitman. I was at the last Town Board meeting and have been trying to follow up on the County sponsored meetings that Craig was talking about. I have been in touch with Lori Paulson, Grants Manager Trainee of the Delaware County Department of Economic Development. She sent me the attached press release which the County has just sent out to many of the local newspapers and radio stations. So far, from what Lori said, she only received acknowledgement from The Daily Star and a couple of radio stations that they received and will publish it, although probably not until tomorrow or Friday. That's unfortunate because the meetings start on Monday!
November 10, 2008 10:26:08 LOL   The Board has seems rather dead and quiet since the elections. Everyone still in shock? Or, have you all gone into hiding? Don't fear. As soon as our President-Elect takes the oath of office there will be a blinding flash of light and everything will be cured from the economy to warts.
November 06, 2008 11:15:47 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Masonville now has its own JUDGE JUDY! At yesterday’s Town Council meeting, our court clerk Judy Jackson was appointed Town Justice. When she is ready to “sit” court, after attending Judicial Institute classes, she will have to do so without a court clerk as efficient and capable as herself. I admit to being quite disappointed, for I had wished this appointment for myself and had looked forward to working with a super clerk like Judy.
November 06, 2008 07:12:36 George Denys I have flown with rep's from two "Big" wind companies and have been told by both that Masonville is unacceptable for that. Just trying to put any concerns or false hopes to rest. George
November 05, 2008 20:24:14 bertimouse   LOL,sorry I misunderstood. I'll be contacting Peter. I guess if one were in the business of selling wind power Masonville would not be a good customer if the average yearly wind figure was under 13 mph I think the figure is for those big megawatt generators like they have up North. The Town of Masonville might be able to generate enough wind energy on it's own with maybe two or three smaller generators placed in the best wind locations but it would only supplement electricity during the winter months & I agree with you - WAY TOO expensive. While it would put Masonville in the forefront of Delaware County & create all kinds of new jobs, we'd have to raise BIG funds to maintain all kinds of "infrastructure" for that.***The simpler option is for smaller wind "gennies" as they call them-similar to the old windmills used for well pumping in days of old but with much better designs nowadays-hooked up on a small scale for families that have windy hills. If they had excess "wind" power then they could hook their neighbors up. These smaller gennies only need 6-12 mph to operate,& almost everyone has that kind of wind during the winter here. All it takes to set up this small kind of individual system is a 20-40 foot free-standing tower,(or not-my brother has a six foot pole mounted on top of his house)a small genny or two & a bunch of batteries all wired up & protected properly. My brother uses golf-cart batteries he bought cheap on-line.***This technology is exciting & NY State offers allot of FREE know-how,tax breaks,even grants for homeowners. Check out NYSERDA for that. "Little wind" as we call it has little start up costs for the individual homeowner, BIG benefits in saving electrical &/or water heating costs during the winter "wind" season months...& for the other seasons there is "Hydro" & Solar power. LOL would you like to hear about the potential Masonville has for Hydro energy? We love talking about wind/water & solar power.(p.s.-I haven't talked about wood burning 'cause I'm personally allergic to it's dust,& can't physically chop wood anymore but am all for it if folks keep safe.) Sorry LOL,for talking so much about this so-called "free" alternative energy.It's not&now I have to Blow,Sniff& Nuff said, eh? ;) ;) :)
November 04, 2008 08:17:28 LOL   Bertimouse - I,personally, know very little about wind power. I was speaking of a person who is in the business of solar and wind power. He stated that any sort of wind generation in this area (not every point of Masonville, but in general) wind would not be a good investment due to costs.
November 03, 2008 22:37:38 bertimouse   Hi LOL & Peter S. - To Peter: If you represent "Big Wind" coming into Masonville then you would have to speak to our Town Board & Master Plan Committee about bringing anything in like that here. If you are suggesting "small-wind" projects JUST for our town & homes I'd suggest you do the same thing but then we'd be all for it! Dear LOL, you don't need allot of coin or wind to do this-my brother in Colorado put a system in for only $600.**** There are folks here in town that already know way more about wind & water power systems than I do. These systems should be developed in a SMALL SCALE for our own town-is my view so that we can be independent if we need to be;we can be this way with individual wind, water power & good wood-husbandry management. It's a little like going back to the old times with a little of the new technology.
November 03, 2008 19:20:08 LOL   Wind power. Good idea but when I inquired about wind power in this area I was told it was a very poor wind area. The persons I spoke with estimated one would need a tower in the 200 to 300 foot range to get adaquate wind to generate much of anything. Seems the inital outlay would far outstrip any savings in the near future.
November 03, 2008 11:45:08 Peter Sucharski Hi everyone, regardless the result of the election, I have a workable plan to bring green energy business to Masonville. The wind resources in Masonville are quite good. If you are interested, please send me an email. Thank you!
November 02, 2008 20:35:10 LOL   Thank God, Tuesday it will be over with. Three years of continous campaigning is too much. Three years of hearing CNN hawk their liberal *CENSORED* in too much. I do not want to hear about another politican, federal, state or local for about 20 more years.
November 02, 2008 11:06:53 bertimouse   Hi George & LOL: Yes, I agree with you on all points. It's going to be a tough road no matter who wins which makes us nervous as "L" but this is still a beautiful country & a beautiful town & I couldn't imagine living anywhere else.
November 02, 2008 07:01:52 George Denys Hello Bertimouse, You asked where the Conservitive Republican party has gone. We meet on the first Wednsday of each month at the church. On another note, we at the town have always respected everyone's input and opinion regardless of party affiliation. An example would be the Bi-Partison committe appointed to serve on the Master Plan advisory board. Town issues tend to revolve around economic issues not things like Roe V Wade and it is in that contex that we find common ground. I hope that, if the Democrats win on Tuesday, they will have the same respect for all opinions. After all, we are all in this boat together. George.
November 01, 2008 09:25:45 LOL   Don't know about Conservative Republicans; but I am a Conservative and I cannot, with good conscience, vote for either candidate running on the two major party tickets. We have probably the worst choice of presidential candidates running this election since the Kennedy - Nixon choice.
November 01, 2008 07:57:59 George Denys Good Morning to all on the board. Our snow on Hager Hill has melted to just a few slushy inches. I hope everyone had a safe and fun holloween. I do hope that everyone can return to a more civil attitude after Tuesday. I disturbs me somewhat to see such disrespect on this board. Such is life I suppose. George
October 31, 2008 23:46:00 bertimouse   BTY? "" is a group that watches the Federal "Office of Management and Budget" which is currently reviewing all of the current Bush Administration regulation revisions; submitted to their office.
October 31, 2008 23:36:51 bertimouse   You know, Everything in this Country from Foreign Policy to the Economy has "Tanked". -Whom Ever is elected President will have the toughest road to ride since the 1930's Depression. Yah,Obama is our vote. At least we can all blame him for the next 4 years for the last 8 years. Check out for the truth. Happy Halloween.
October 31, 2008 22:23:26 bertimouse   Hi Ol'Country Boy - Whatever posts you'd like to make reflect your views as a citizen of this community & country. It's all about your rights & we here respect & support that. When I/We post my/our personal views here we like to quote from broadcasts or local news that we hear on the radio,watch on Local TV,or have read in the paper so that folks reading this bulletin board can check it out for themselves if they want to. -As Free Americans,we should all "question the authority of government"& we are not "hippies" here by saying this;far from it(but OMG so what if we were, eh? What would you think of us then?). And,we in our humble household in Masonville are on-line,we read,learn & are trying to only post here when what we read here at this humble bulletin board becomes too intolerably screwed up by inaccurate any kind of comments. -"this above all,to thine own self be true". And BTW,***Where has the Conservative Republican Party Voice Gone in the Town of Masonville? We would love to hear&talk with them. Nuff said again. And again. Peace yall, I Love this town & everyone in it as Jesus says NOW.
October 31, 2008 20:41:16 bertimouse   On a much lighter note,(I hope)we were just musing about the amount of snow we'd have to hand shovel this winter & were wondering what the average length of driveway that everyone in Masonville has to plow? Ours is about 50'L x 13'W x depth of snow = amount of elbow grease.
October 31, 2008 20:38:17 Good Ol' Country Boy.   P.S. Ms. Mouse, Shall I post a reminder of all the RAPISTS that were pardoned by Bill Clinton in his last days in office???????????????? Do you think people will buy into your anti-Bush hate speech???? You Democrats profess to be tollerant but are the MOST intollerant of any group I know. Hatefull people who will do anything to promote your brand of Liberalism. Ask yourself, What would Jesus do? Probably not what you do.
October 31, 2008 20:30:35 Good Ol' Country Boy.   Mr. Obama has redefinened "Middle class" down to 200,000. Mr. Biden has put it down to 150,000 Mr Richardson ( New Mexico Gov.) has put it down to 125,000. Class warfare I say. Un-American as it gets. (and I only make 36,000 with NO benefits) BAD BAD BAD. If this is what you want..........GO TO FRANCE!!!!
October 31, 2008 20:09:54 bertimouse   Hi Yall; Yah,G.W.Bush too,eh?*;)*;)Bush administration officials, in their last weeks in office, are pushing to rewrite a wide array of federal rules with changes or additions that could block product-safety lawsuits by consumers & states reported the Wall Street Journal. CBS news also reported tonight that 90 Federal Regulations are in the works to be revised within the last 81 days of this administration; including lifting mining dump restrictions, clean air & water pollution standards which favor big, global corporations. The Bush administration’s efforts to protect corporations that comply with federal rules from legal action "have fueled a long-running power struggle between business interests, which support the efforts, & consumer groups & trial lawyers who have denounced the moves." Lefkowitz tells the paper that the administration decided not to press its preemption agenda in Congress, where it might lose. “There was already authority within federal government statutes and regulations to start the reform process without legislation,” he tells the Journal. “Using that and legal briefs, we proceeded.” -Sound familiar? -Still wondering why G.W. Bush has not been asked to endorse or speak at any Republican races this year? Republicans have had a good run for 8 years, but enough is enough because the middle class (under $250,000K per year & proud of it) is being bled & polluted to death. Tomorrow there are rallies in Binghamton & Delhi for both the Republican & Democratic Parties if anyone's interested. Nuff here said about that for sure.
October 31, 2008 16:17:08 Kathy Hi Bob D - Not sure how it is over by Masonville Pond, but today it is 61 degrees in the sun. We didn't plow our driveway (only shoveled the end out) and all of the snow is gone from the driveway now. There's still plenty of snow in the grass and on mountains, but it's melting FAST!
October 31, 2008 14:08:16 M/P 08   PPW- YES YES YES!!
October 31, 2008 10:39:08 Far Right   Sounds like Bertimouse is feeling a bit cocky. Perhaps it is for good reason. Obama will carry NY for sure. Troubled times generaly favor the Democrats. Hitler used that sort of opertunity quite well to become dictator.
October 30, 2008 20:46:48 Bob Dunbar I would hope that this Bertimouse is a oddity not the norm up there! How much snow did you get by Masonville pond?????? Do I need to have someone clean me out? Thank you, Bob
October 30, 2008 12:00:09 "Grumpy" Ernst Keidel Not only is Steam Mill Road clear of snow, but they have managed to keep it that way WITHOUT demolishing my mail box! It gets expensive to replace the mail box because it not only involves buying a new box, but new letters and numbers. This is my fourth box since I moved onto the hill. Great job, Chuck and crew!
October 30, 2008 08:34:58 Kathy We are on the western side of Steam Mill, up around 1800 feet. I believe we got 10 (maybe 12) inches of snow. Many thanks to Chuck and the highway crew for doing such a nice job with the road. I'm not sure if they had the plow on before the snow hit or not (we still have the mower deck on the tractor!) but the road was taken care of super speedy quick and well salted/sanded as usual. Great job!!
October 29, 2008 19:19:10 bertimouse   Hey "proud pretty woman"; Your latest comment had us LOL-not with but at you. *******We hope that most Republicans in this town do not share your nasty, clue-less views which only insult the intelligence of the Party & wastes everyone's energy reading it. If you sincerely believe that you represent the Republican Party view here in the way you've so rudely & in-accurately described then the National Republican Party deserves every "whupping" it gets next Tuesday. Please, "proud, pretty woman" behave like one!
October 29, 2008 19:01:42 Jo   Hey anyone know the conditions up in steam mill forest? Heard you all got some snow.
October 29, 2008 18:59:24 bertimouse   Hi Craig - Take it easy on Grumpy? Sorry I just asked an innocent question on why it took so long to post - didn't mean to generate an exclamation point from you, nor all the chat generated...just looks like a minor snafu. Spit happens like that sometimes, eh? :)
October 29, 2008 07:43:43 "Grumpy" Ernst Keidel Thank you! I have the Minutes and they have been sent to the webservice - BearPaws Webworks. They should be up before too long.
October 29, 2008 06:57:40 Craig DuMond   Hi Grumpy - No change it format on my end. As always, I sent them in Word format. Darn computers, hopefully you were able the one that George sent you. Thanks George!
October 28, 2008 21:42:40 George Denys I have it covered Grumpy. Check your e-mail. George
October 28, 2008 14:27:23 "Grumpy" Ernst Keidel DISCLAIMER! I may indeed have been sent October's Minutes, but in a format my computer wouldn't recognize or open! Pam and Craig, did you change formats on me?
October 28, 2008 07:08:49 A proud pretty woman   Subject: 21 Reasons Why Sarah Palin Should NOT be Elected Vice-President of t... Not verified with Snopes or Truth or Fiction--but who cares? 21 Reasons Why Sarah Palin Should NOT be Elected Vice-President of the United States : 1) She is a Woman. 2) She does not believe in killing babies, born or unborn. 3) She is NOT endorsed by Susan Sarandon, Jane Fonda, Rosie O'Donnell, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Geraldine Ferraro, Barbara Walters, Helen Thomas, Ellen DeGeneris, Ted Kennedy, Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews, Barbra Streisand, David Letterman, or others who fervently believe in a Woman's Right to Choose (to kill babies). 4) She is married to a Foreigner--a species called 'Native American'--meaning her five children are half-breeds. 5) She has on more than one occasion expressed PRIDE in the United States of America . 6) Unlike decent, self-respecting Democrats everywhere, she has a 17-year-old daughter who became pregnant out of wedlock. 7) She is a member of the American Riflemen's Association / actually owns firearms / and knows how to use them. 8) She has killed a moose, among other animals--and spreads the propaganda that it is hunters, through their license fees, that keep American wildlife from becoming extinct. 9) She often does her own grocery and other household shopping. 10) She drives a car, and flies a plane. 11) She chose to give birth to a defective child, rather than allow a skilled Abortion Doctor to kill it for her. 12) She refuses to apologize for seeking the termination of an Alaskan State Trooper just because he applied a gentle taser to his 12-year-old stepson (who, of course, happened to be Gov. Palin's nephew). 13) She is inexperienced. And she refuses to admit that her duties as the chief executive in the State of Alaska are nowhere near equal to those of a public servant who was once a Community Organizer, or that of a United States Senator who has carried the awesome burden of overseeing a staff of political appointees. 14) She has a son who is in the U.S. Military, deployed to the Persian Gulf -- probably making her prejudiced against all the peaceful Muslims in that part of the world. 15) She is on Oprah Winfrey's 'Do Not Invite' list. 16) She professes to be a Christian, but has no 'Spiritual Adviser' -- even though Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who served Sen. Obama in that capacity for 20 years, is now available. 17) She isn't really a 'beauty queen,' as advertised. She was only the runner-up in the Miss Alaska Contest; and Alaska is not a very populous state, anyway. 18) The Obama-Biden ticket is favored over McCain-Palin, 80% to 20%, by our friendly allies in France . 19) Her children are not properly trained in hygiene. (Did you see her 7-year-old daughter shamelessly lick the entire palm of her hand at the Convention, then use it to slick down the hair of her little brother?) 20) She is of mixed English, German, and Irish ancestry--and you KNOW you can't trust the Limey's, Krauts, or Micks. 21) Back to No. 1: This is the one that really galls modern, liberal 'feminists.' Gov. Palin is a Woman, a female-type wife and mother, who shaves her legs, wears makeup, dresses smartly, often cooks meals for her family, doesn't give a hoot about the National Organization for Women or the all-powerful Teachers Unions--and obviously will never, ever fit in as a member of the Washington Elite. Do we want a person like this to be the Vice President of the Unites States? You bet we do !!!
October 28, 2008 06:57:43 "Grumpy" Ernst Keidel NOT SO! Todate I have received NO October meeting minutes! The last email I got from you, Craig, was a discussion on the Town Justice position on the 15th. And then, of course, the Sarah Palin comments from yesterday. Meanwhile, however, I have received nothing from you, Craig, or from Pam. I am standing by (OK, sitting!) to receive the October minutes and will forward them to my webmaster upon receipt.
October 27, 2008 23:33:14 Craig DuMond   Grumpy did not get the draft minutes until 10/21. Please keep in mind the minutes are not official until adopted at the next Board meeting. They are however posted here as unofficial minutes to get them out to the public as soon as possible. I recommend that you take it easy on Grumpy as he maintains this site at his own expense for the benefit of the community. I am sure they will be posted soon!
October 27, 2008 22:54:41 bertimouse   Craig/Grumpy: Why does it take so long (almost 4 weeks come this Weds.) to get the Town Meeting Minutes to post on-line?
October 27, 2008 21:01:20 Craig DuMond   The minutes have been sent to Grumpy. I am sure he is waiting for the webmaster to post them.
October 27, 2008 19:15:17 bertimouse   Craig/Pamela: Do you have an estimate of when the October, 2008 Masonville Town meeting minutes will be posted on-line? Thanks.
October 25, 2008 11:37:06 An Old Friend   Thanks for the update on Bill; please tell him Andy said hi.
October 25, 2008 01:26:06 bill's friend   Bill is still Bill, and is living where he has always (almost} been ? Hasn't gone anywhere and hasn't changed a bit.
October 24, 2008 19:29:17 An Old Friend   Where is my good friend from so long ago Bill Cutting? I can not seem to find him anywhere. Can any help me? Thanks
October 23, 2008 14:37:25 Far Right   PBS is left wing junk.
October 21, 2008 23:04:20 bertimouse   Has anyone seen the PBS "Frontline" broadcast tonight of their show called "Heat"?!? --WOW. This is another NOT TO BE MISSED & you can watch it again on-line (so they say) at "pbs dot org". Peace for our whole planet yall.
October 21, 2008 22:04:16 bertimouse   Yes Craig, I agree. We all(or should have)voted for the bond issue that allowed our School district to build those renovations to the 5 schools & the darn separate vote for the $2 million pool which is not[by the way]olympic sized;just large enough to compete with B&G school district's brand new pool,& every other district that jumped into the "pool"&fancy new athletic fields bandwagon. (That pool bond-vote passed by something like 230 yes votes to 175 no votes; out of something like 900 people that could have voted?)-It was pathetic. I remember thinking at the time that there were about 700 children [700x2=1,200 voting parents?] that were directly affected at the time. It was a crying shame that the voter turnout was so low on such an important issue. But what can you do? -So the Sidney H.S. pool got built & now everyone is stuck with it & complains. -This is just another example of how people really need to understand what their one vote means first locally. Everyone should vote whenever & wherever they can. Why? -Because we can. Because we are Americans & this is our duty. Yes.
October 21, 2008 20:31:45 Craig DuMond   In my humble opinion, The Sidney Central School Board has been frivolously wasting the taxpayers money for years, starting with investing 4.8 million of our taxpayer dollars into 2 schools they closed less that a year and a half after completion. Remember this moved was supposed to make our property taxes lower!. This last budget was over 5% and that was with laying off over 20 teachers!!! What a travesty...all to build an expanded empire complete with Olympic size swimming pool disparately need for our declining enrollment! Looks like the chickens are coming home to roost just as the citizen's group that opposed the closings predicted. At this frivolous spending is just the tip of the iceberg. The citizen's group uncovered MANY irregularities within the District's finances, however, most fell on deaf ears. If we dont learn from history...... Pay attention, get involved and ask critical questions. School taxes are the single most crippling burden on NYS households and something needs to be done to reign these school Boards in.
October 21, 2008 20:09:42 bertimouse   Hi Shocked. Yup. Saw it on-line at the daily star dot com.****The article reported about the NYS comptroller's annual audit on school districts & was one-sided without any comment from the schools that the reporter quoted. Too bad. We also noted that the Comptroller is the sole trustee of the NYS Pension fund which is also in deep do-do, so we understand his comment that "legislation is needed to allow school districts to use the excess EBALR funds to potentially lower property taxes or to avoid expensive borrowing by paying for one-time expenses." He's trying to save money while still seeming to know what he's doing, eh?
October 21, 2008 16:09:54 Shocked   Has anyone seen The Daily Star yet today? The online article is called "Millions locked in school accounts". This is a must read. Sidney has $1,357,332 locked in employee benefits accrued liability reserve (EBALR).
October 16, 2008 17:51:16 Craig DuMond   Town Historian, Jeri Brayman, can be contacted at 265-3769
October 16, 2008 15:12:40 LOL   Mr. Keidal - Thank you. I am sure I will run into her at some time.
October 16, 2008 14:10:56 Grumpy Ernst Keidel The Masonville Historian is Jeri Brayman. She herself, does not have a phone listing.
October 16, 2008 11:38:44 LOL   Anyone have a contact for the Masonville historian? Thanks
October 16, 2008 01:44:55 bertimouse   We vote to include Kendal Craig's husband for an award. He worked months on this monumental project which initially was non-paying. He re-finished, painted, & performed most of the electrical wiring & the back-breaking jobs to get the General Store opened & looking the way it does today, which yes still needs work as they will tell you. It would be a great thing if all of us would support their place, eh?
October 15, 2008 07:00:51 George Denys I can see no harm in that at all. Grumpy, it's your site, what do you think?
October 14, 2008 10:14:12 Old Time thinker   I think a person of the year is a good idea, but how do you pick just one person? Would it be okay to just ask for people to pick someone and list it here on this site and why they pick that person. This way no one will be left out.
October 12, 2008 10:37:45 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Whereas we may or may not have a MASONVILLE PERSON of the YEAR selection, one person of which I can think is Kendal Craig! She is the one who provides our town with the definitive cultural center in the form of the MASONVILLE GENERAL STORE and CRESCENT WRENCH CAFE! She oversees her store on most days and is responsible for "selling" Masonville's old-time historical charm and character. There is great coffee and great ambiance, and strangers who are just driving through town and happen to stop in order to scope out the store and/or have some coffee, leave with a very positive impression of Masonville and oft vow to be back!
October 11, 2008 07:50:56 George Denys Thanks Bertimouse, I respect your opinion. I was also just thinking "outside the box" I am trying to get us moved in a more positive direction. The grant you speak of was brought up at, I belive, the August meeting. We did not dwell on it as we are waiting to compleate and adopt the Master plan before applying for any grants. The plan in place gives us an edge over towns that do not yet have one. I am curious as to the use of "we" in your posts. Are you the rep for an organization in town?
October 10, 2008 22:55:25 bertimouse   We're glad you mentioned this George.We would like to commend all the folks that sold those tomato seedlings at the fire dept. to raise funds for their youth group. We bought ten $1.00 plants raised by those kids & they were the best/biggest tomatoes we've grown in 10 years! :) We also wanted to let you & Craig know about an ad placed in the local "County Shopper" free newspaper about the "Local Government Efficiency Grant Program now available" offered by the New York State Department of State.-The article is too long for us to quote but this sounds exciting & Masonville should definitely apply for this grant.-It's all about getting money for "projects that promote shared services, cooperative agreements, consolidations, mergers & dissolutions." Assemblyman Crouch says that "this is a great opportunity to help government efficiency & cost savings on many levels..."-"All of these grants[there are many town departments that can apply individually] are now available & can be found at the NYS Dept. of State website or copies can be obtained by calling the Division of Local Government Services at (518)473-3355." Please, check this out George/Craig if you've not already heard about it. You asked, we responded. -And WE VOTE NO to a "Masonville person of the year" award. Bad idea in our view. Maybe someday when we have a proper Town Hall or Park that the whole Town could show up & really celebrate something like that. How about an Organization of the year?-Oh we forgot-we already congratulate the Highway & Fire Departments every chance we get anyways at the Town Meetings,so why do they need more than what that now? Just thinking outside the box out-loud here;don't mean any disrespect...please check out & comment on that LOCAL GRANT $$ soon. Have you heard of it? What do you think? Can we apply for it?
October 10, 2008 21:49:10 George Denys Just a thought, Let's put some of this boards energy into making Masonville a better place. What do you think the Town Board should be doing better or different? How can the Fire District encourage more membership? How about nominating a "Masonville person of the year" for those who, every day, make this a better, safer place to live. I'll start. Pastor Rob, Carol Bowker, The entire highway crew. I know many more but thats a start. Let's get POSITIVE.
October 10, 2008 21:31:17 George Denys I would like to take this time to again invite all interested people to look at the Masonville Master Plan. It can be found at We will also have copies at the next Town Board meeting for all to take home. I urge you to provide feedback if you wish as I include everyones opinion in the discussion process. Most of the publics comments so far have made it into the plan in one form or another. George
October 10, 2008 09:50:53 Far Right   The Truth.
October 10, 2008 09:49:04 LOL   I recall an incident many years ago when I was in high school. There was a football game between the school I attended and our arch rival. During the game someone from our school damaged a bus belonging to the visiting team. The next day it was announced that our school, as a result of our poor sportmanship, had forfeited all the rest of the games of the season and there would be no more games that year. Solved the problem. There was a furor over it but the ruling stuck and a valuable lesson was learned I think.
October 09, 2008 23:02:22 bertimouse   We quote this from tonight out of Binghamton: "The Vestal and Horseheads school districts agree there was an aggressive game between their JV girls soccer teams. They disagree about whether there shouts of were slurs or cheers." *************1)Doesn't anyone know how to spell anymore? 2)What, they don't teach grammar anymore either? 3)We saw the original WBNG-TV newscast on this issue. The Horseheads soccer team forfeited the game & walked off the field because of this! -The Vestal School Superintendent quickly responded with a statement saying that it was a all a misunderstanding because one member of the team had the nickname of "Neager" & another had the nickname of "Meuw" so some of the fans may have "mis-heard" them saying the "N" word & the "J" word. -"Yah, right" is basically what the Horseheads Superintendent said. (Why would a whole team of top athletes walk off the field for "mis-hearing" something, eh?) -Shame, shame on you Vestal & give Horseheads a break. Why would any other team want to play on your tainted, racist field? -We've heard rumors on how you think 'yall are better than everyone else because(you think)you're more "well off" than the rest of us. Now we are LOL. Personally(?)we hope all of your so-called competitive athletic department-in all sports-gets soundly whipped this year. 4)Anyone with a video of that soccer game would make a fortune right now & we hope it's someone from Horseheads. ERR nuff said.
October 08, 2008 22:40:27 bertimouse   To lol&far right: What kind of depressed words/messages/attitudes do you teach your/our children/grandchildren here now? No one in this country is born without some kind of small hope,eh? Again we say PEACE!
October 08, 2008 21:32:11 Far Right   LOL, I agree. It's all gone.
October 08, 2008 16:32:40 LOL   I sometimes am thankful I am an old man and will probably not witness the final agonies of this once great and noble country. I do shed a tear to think of what we are leaving our children and grandchildren. -- U.S.A. the words that once spelled hope to a world without hope. A haven for those who would seek a better life for themselves and their children. A land of opportunity. A country of freedom and liberty founded on the premise and promise of an Almighty God. -- The scum being sent to our government has sold us out to the highest bidder. We cannot even see an honest election in this country. What is the point in an election on a national scale? The scumbags the fat cats wants in there will be in there. Everyone talks about "cleaning house" in DC but even with the entire House of Representatives and one third of the Senate up for re-election the same self-serving, self-involved greedy cockroaches will return to the seat of government come January. Several trillion to wage a war for no reason. A trillion or more to bail out the blood sucking banks and Wall Street but not one farthing for those who are truly in need. My only regret is that I will not live to see each politician in DC led to the gallows and hanged for treason. Secret Police and Secret courts in the U.S.A. What has it come to?
October 08, 2008 11:51:20 LOL   Far-Right, I think if you take time to Google Obama's birth certificate you will find any number of independent groups who have authenticated his citizenship in various ways. -- Of course I am aware of the "conspiracy" theory which "proves" his birth certificate and his middle name is false. But think of it as a common sense issue. How would a senator conspire to cover up something like that for years? It would take an enormous amount of work,not to mention money and bribes. Including, but not limited too, the co-operation of officials in Hawaii, the hospital where he was born,the doctor who delivered him, neighbors, friends, officials in Illinois where he was married, the U.S. government, passport officials, the State Department and numerous others. His birth certificate has been compared to others issued in Hawaii at the time of his birth and they are identical. -- I know Americans love a good juicy conspiracy theory. Witness Kennedy, Area 51, even after all these years Lincoln and numerous others. They are fun but that is all they are. While nothing is impossible sneaking a non-citizen into a presidental election is so remote as to say it falls into the realm of impossible. I think all this nonsense came about because the man has the unfortunate circumstance of having a name that at this time conjours up the worst in peoples minds; not any "facts" as such. -- I think there are a lot of ligitmate reasons for NOT electing Obama as President of the U.S. without resorting to nonsensical conspiracy theories. Even J.R. Corsi in his book "Obama Nation" ( and he is no fan of Obams) does not claim Obama is not a U.S. Citizen. And, Corsi has probably made some of the wildest, outlandish claims about many in public life, that has ever appeared in print.
October 08, 2008 11:07:41 Far Right   Then why has he refused to produce his birth certificate? If someone questioned me about it then I would produce the documents to shut them up. He has never done so.
October 07, 2008 16:20:07 LOL   While I am no fan of Obama it is ridiculus to say he is not a natural born U.S. Citizen. Barack Hussian Obama II was born on August 4th 1961 to Barack Hussian Obama I (a naturalized citizen of the U.S. from Kenya) and Ann Dunham Stanley a natural born citizen of the U.S. He was born in the State of Hawaii. (Yes, Hawaii is a state and was one at the time of his birth.) Yes, he spent a great deal of his life outside the continental U.S. But to say he is not a U.S. citizen fitting the requirments of being the president of the U.S. is just rumor mongering. As I said I am not a fan of his nor will I vote for him but by the same token I am not going to say things about him that are not true or based on nonsense.
October 07, 2008 10:18:01 LOL   Who was our last statesman president? Eisenhower perhaps? Kennedy a rich spoiled womanizer. Johnson one of the "good old backroom boys." Nixon a shamed crook. Ford a bumbling idiot. Carter a well-meaning but inept peanut farmer. Reagan? Well, had the best interest of the country at heart but lousy advisers. King Bush the First. Oil immersed king of a dynasty. Clinton, HUMMM!! Have to ask one of the many female interns during his administration I guess. They had the most "personal" contact with him. King George the Second. Oil immersed king of a dynasty going down the tubes. --- Present selection. GOD HELP THE COUNTRY!!
October 07, 2008 09:50:21 Far right   Anyone who votes for Obama should be tried and hung for treason. He is not even a US citizen as far as we know. Kenyan national I think.
October 07, 2008 07:32:45 Grumpy Ernst Keidel "criticize a little less here on this message board" - well spoken, Bertimouse, but let me remind you that it appears that it was YOU who started this. I refer to your post of 4 October, bashing Sarah Palin.
October 06, 2008 21:41:11 RangerDanger   Hi LOL. Are you who I think you are? Haha.
October 06, 2008 21:32:25 bertimouse   It always amazes us how the folks currently dedicated to the McCain/Palin side never seem to want to talk about facts. We are struggling to keep an open mind for both sides, as both sides have good ideas. It's amazing to us that people have to resort to insults & rudeness to get their point across. (Guilty too,I apologize to you Country Boy if I insulted you.) -We all have much more in common than differences in this country. Like the "TV media" is saying how this campaign is now getting uglier.*******With Palin now telling folks that "Shucks y'all,Obama hangs out with terrorists" all of her beauty & good looks can't hide the inner ugliness she's so willing & capable of doing just as any man. Too bad. We thought she was above that nastiness that yes both parties do.******* Both parties have websites where you can learn about their views & true facts. -In our opinion these are the best places to get the real election story not the 5-minute blurb ads on TV nor even the debates.*******We think the youth of this country will decide this election-the college kids that are on the internet everyday. They are the real(silent)heartbeat that is our future. Let them decide. :) ****** We-thinks that Country Boy,Grumpy & all the other registered voters in Masonville should strive to listen to their young,learn more about each candidate,criticize a little less here on this message board & by all means Calmly Debate & Discuss More on our Own Important Issues in peace. Peace! Peace! :)
October 05, 2008 09:52:58 LOL   SHEESH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 05, 2008 09:23:43 Grumpy Ernst Keidel I guess we all now know where Countryboy stands on this issue; -right beside me! Besides: Friends don't let friends vote Dumbocrat!
October 05, 2008 08:06:12 Good ol' Country Boy THATS IT!!!!!! the beauty queen remark!!!!You are mad that she is good looking. Dems hate good looking women!! I finaly figured it out. You resent her good looks and take it out on her. Alas I see the light. Eh????????
October 05, 2008 08:02:37 Good ol' Country Boy The CEO of Amphenol is much more able to count money than Obama.How is Obama more qualified? Please explain what he has done to deserve my vote. Please tell me, because he won't, what his stance is on most anything. He is a nothing, a nobody who has cast his first real vote in the senate just days ago. Talk about playing catch up. Palen is miles ahead of Obama and she only wants to be Vice-Pres!!!!!!!! There goes the rest of Social Security. Down the tubes with all our rights as proud americans to the lefty liberal idia of their new world order. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away. A vote for Obama is a vote to end our way of life as we know it. A cowardly uneducated vote. A vote that waves a white flag to the idiots that crash airplanes into buildings and kill our sons and daughters. I guess you would invite them in for tea and try to talk out our problems, eh?
October 04, 2008 19:26:07 bertimouse   Hi Country Boy; -Pull-ease - this cute, bright-eyed, perky, former beauty-queen is no way Qualified for the 2nd most Powerful Position on this Planet & we don't care what sex she is.-Didn't everyone get their fill of incompetence the last two times around? Look what it's done to our beloved Country? -If McCain thinks voters are so stupid as to vote for him just because his VP is a woman;well we were on the fence but that lost our votes flat out.***** We prefer a dynamic young leader with a wise VP on the team, not the same (old)leadership with a lame-duck VP that has to play catch-up on important world issues-[i.e.unknown, un-voted for people behind the scenes showing her the ropes]-'cause she's been a soccer mom for the last 20 years, Please. There is no comparison here who's best qualified. This is not an election for the local CEO of Amphinol...this is serious stuff during a serious time & we need qualified people who care, understand & promise to fight for the middle class. Nuff said.
October 04, 2008 09:35:59 Interested   I urge the users of this site to download the Masonville Master Plan from and read it and then pass on your thoughts and comments to Councilman Denys. It is your community and your community's future so you should take a personal interest in it. Your participation is the engine that will make the plan go.
October 03, 2008 20:21:20 Good ol' Country Boy Are we going to have the courage to elect a woman vice pres or are we going to continue to be a sexist country? Or is this woman not the N.O.W. gangs type. If not then what would be?? Perhaps they (N.O.W.)are more sexist than the rest of the country. The time to crack the glass ceiling is NOW. Pun intended.
October 02, 2008 23:45:18 bertimouse LHW8S FYI: "Maverick" means: "n.1.An unbranded range calf or colt. 2.An independent person,esp. in politics." -J.M. is not a registered independent voter:republican all his life.***(personally?)We don't care for any unbranded yearling's running around our place running wild nor someone who calls themselves something they're not. It's just not good neighborly policy, eh?
October 02, 2008 20:02:15 George Denys Yes we will survive, at least I hope we do. Back to the Victory Gardens.
October 02, 2008 19:53:36 bertimouse   So,PBS report tonight on the economy was again very enlightening: 4 speakers with various opinions;but they all agree that basically the middle class is in deep do-do no matter what. Recommended by all:1)Close the insolvent banks. 2)No one knows the final cost this is going to be.3)Only 3 agreed that "the panic" has to be stopped to restore confidence. (4)All agreed that it's just a "holding measure".(5)All agreed that this bill will have to be refined in the future(yah good luck with that). Some facts: the new bill goes from 700 to 810 BILLION adding mostly pork-barrel stuff for the Republicans so they will vote for it;some things are good:raising the bank insurance limit to $250K for retirees & small businesses; increasing tax credits for solar/wind/alternative energy businesses, but allot of them are wacky "sweeteners" like those wooden bowen-arrows made for kids in Oregon!********Yah gotta laugh or cry & we here chose to laugh. Peace & calm to 'yall, folks. This is NOT the end of our world, & yes we will all survive this. Yes we will.
October 02, 2008 19:22:16 bertimouse   A (Biased)Poem to offer here: "Obama/Biden: No more lying, hiding & riding the middle class & an end to the fighting. McCain/Palin: More bailing, failing, jailing & whaling fear more years! [pardon any spelling errors] Hope 'yall watch the VP debate tonight for the 2nd most important job in this WORLD, eh?
October 01, 2008 21:37:36 Cemetery Photographer   Over the past couple of years I have been photographing and indexing the stones in the cemetery on Route 20 and the one on Route 206. If anyone needs photos of any stones in these cemeteries I probably have them in my files. Let me know and I will be happy to send copies to you.
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