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July 25, 2008 21:03:13 bertimouse   Dear Chester, I've got a few things I'd like to chat with you about: 1) What about the new "re-burner" thingy we voted on last year to save energy at the Town HWY dept. that runs off of recycled fuel? 2) YOU KNOW that EVERYONE will be paying DOUBLE this winter for fuel so get used to it! 3) I have personally witnessed (several times) members of the Masonville Town board disagreeing with our Town Supervisor & suspending final votes for further review & study. Your accusations of the board (as I have witnessed) are unfounded, inflammatory & paranoid. 4)The idea of a public bulletin board was brought up by the Masonville Democrats; a public "kiosk" like they have outside in many Universities is what they were thinking of. Alas, Masonville has no central-neutral space like a central park for that - yet! Until we have something like that it will always be a Dream. 5) BRAVO for the Master Plan, I say! The more residents like you that are involved in the decision making, the less people to complain once the plan goes into effect, eh? Remember July 30th @ 7 p.m. for the next mtg. 6)Gas drilling is by permission of the owner of the property first, unless there is a regulation by the Town, which the board is for. Again; part of the Master Plan meeting discussions... 7)This is why we so desperately need a Master Plan for the Town of Masonville. We need townfolk like you & I & the Town Board & the Hwy. Dept. to tell the rest of this State of NY to leave us alone because we can take care of our own, eh? 8)I know you are a Veteran Chester, but I'll take you on anywhere, anyhow in a debate about Masonville. I Love this town just as much as you do so shut up! :)
July 25, 2008 20:24:56 bertimouse   Thank you Craig for your comments about the current *CENSORED* Mae/Freddie Mac bailout vote. We agree with you but unfortunately it seems this bill is going to be passed fast for the rich folk no matter what we have to say. Thanks for commenting also about the tax situation in Masonville. I get the "jist" of it; (& correct me if I'm wrong) but basically we should all hold onto our land, not sell out to anyone & maintain our properties to hold down the town taxes, eh? Sweet! :)
July 25, 2008 19:26:24 Chester   Ms Kathy K - Much of what you say makes sense and certainly be of concern to the residents of the town. My major fear is that muncipalities in their greed to get more and more from gas exploration will legislate themselves right out of what could be a gold mine. These exploration companies are in the business for profit and if they do not see any profit there they are not going to pursue anything. I have a BIL in Broome County heading up a group who are holding out for 8K per acre for lease rights. This is plain greedy. I fear many towns in the area are going to do the same thing and lose it all.
July 25, 2008 18:43:41 George Denys gdenys@citlink.net Kathy K. Your concerns are being talked about at the Master Plan meetings. Some of what you are concerned about could very well end up in the final draft that will be presented to the board for action. You are correct, in my opinion, that we should not have to pay for road reconstruction from heavy items being hauled into town. I urge everyone interested to attend the next Master Plan meeting July 30th, 7 p.m. at the Church. (Chester, I really mean what I say, I'll pick you up if you need a lift. I think you would add a bit of fire to the process...and thats a good thing.)
July 25, 2008 18:20:02 George Denys gdenys@citlink.net P.S. Mr Chester, You are correct. You didn't say anything about the signs placement. I was trying to explain to everyone why they are where they are. I should have started a new topic. My apologies for mixing that up in the response to you. George
July 25, 2008 18:11:50 George Denys gdenys@citlink.net Hello again, Mr. Chester, I am not trying to "Rip" you or put anyone in their place. How did you get that from what I said?? I am simply standing up for myself by saying I am no rubber stamp. For heavens sake I am not speaking in anger. I like the back and forth debates on this forum. I think they are healthy.(Makes me try to spell better, no spell check here!!!) I would be glad to talk to you about any concerns you have face to face. Good grief, we are all trying to make this a better place. Take away you constitutuional rights?? Not me....I am a Libertarian at heart. One who belives in freedom of action and thought....and I will fight to the last to protect it. Sound like you might as well. Best wishes, George
July 25, 2008 17:01:24 Chester   Suggestion to one of the volunteer groups around town. How about a public bulletin board someplace in town - i.e. near the library, town hall, etc.
July 25, 2008 09:49:28 Chester   Councilman Denys - Well, guess you exercised your authoriy and put me in my place! No, I do not know you at all anymore than you know ME at all. I still contend that I have never heard anyone on the Town Board speak in oposition to anything the Town Supervisor has said. This tells me that either the Town Board is a rubber stamp or everything is decided before it is brought to the attention of the public. Either way is wrong. The fact the Town Board wants "more control" of the Highway Department does not make taking away the voters control of the Highway Department right. As to the new signs. I said NOTHING about the placement of them except to say they were put there to mark the Hamlet and not the town. I have NO problem with that. It would be ridiculous to try to mark every entrance to the Town with a sign. By the way, I have a constitutional right, so far, to speak against something I believe is wrong. You, may desire to take that right away from me in your own interests but right at this moment I still have that right. If you do not like me speaking up; work to get that right removed from the U.S Constitution. The only thing I have heard about the desire of the Town Board to start appointing a Highway Superintendent is because the Town Board wants to have "More Control" and that is exactly my point. Too much control in the hands of too few is a bad, bad situation. I for one do not want the control of the town placed in the hands of 4 people who really have no interest in anything except the furtherance of their own interests. You may rip into me all you want in this forum but I really doubt you are willing to debate this issue face to face with me or anyone else.
July 24, 2008 22:44:16 George Denys gdenys@citlink.net Mr Shew, I am not a "Rubber stamp" for anyone. That you would think such a thing means you do not know me at all. Elected position = filling another highway position. Appointed position = working supervisor. This is one way we are trying to save money. I had my reservations about this but after all was said it was the money that made me vote the way I did. No rubber stamp. If the public disagrees then we will probably have to hire another person at some time. It won't be the end of the world but it will cost more money. I made a commitment to represent the fixed income families of this town back when I ran for this office and nothing has changed to sway me from that. If folks want to keep it an elected position at a higher cost then so be it. It is really hard to keep taxes down to the 3-4% increase level each year. I wish more folks would show up at budget time to see this for themselves. As for the signs....*CENSORED* if you do *CENSORED* if you don't. The placement was also meant to help people realize they are entering a populated area and to slow down as well as to create more civic pride. OK, back to the master plan. George
July 24, 2008 10:29:36 Chester   The Town of Masonville Supervisor points out, in his reply to Bertimouse, that the town will have to budget double for fuel this coming year. I will be amazed if doubling the budget will be sufficient unless there is a huge drop in fuel prices. Even if there is a drop in fuel prices at the wholesale level you can be sure the retailer will not be in any hurry to pass it on to the consumer. My own budget for heating fuel has risen over $100 per month this coming year. I fail to understand how any person on a fixed income will continue to be able to eat and heat this coming winter. So Imagine what it will be like for the highway department if we get a very snowy, slippery winter. Our highway department is one of the most efficient departments in the county and I am sure that they will want to maintain that high level of profeciency and that is going to cost the taxpayer. I would imagine that, this winter, we are going to see some of the "extras" curtailed in the interest of making sure the necessary is ccomplished.
July 24, 2008 10:25:11 Craig DuMond   P.S. about assessments, I forgot the most important piece! Properties are reassessed based on increase in property sales values over the past year automatically. It makes no difference on whether the town is assessed at 100% or not, if it is not they just recalculate the equalization formula after the reassessment. We are held burden to property sales each year...the market is softening and Masonville was one of the Towns with the lowest reassessment rate this year, so depending on how you look at it that may be good news to some. Since the reassessment will happen regardless, for the reasons outlined in my prior post it is truly in the Town's best interest to maintain 100% eualization.
July 24, 2008 09:48:10 Kathy K klpchn@yahoo.com Question about taxes: since a lot of land in Masonville is owned by NYS, when they lease the land for natural gas drilling, will my taxes go down or up? A 2005 audit found that the DEC (Department)"had 71 such leases covering 64,502 acres of State land. The leases are generally awarded through a public, competitive bid process. During the six years ended December 31, 2005, the Department received about $9.8 million in revenue from these leases." The money from those leases was used as follows:"If the revenues generated by leases are from leases on Wildlife Management Areas, the revenues are deposited in the Conservation Fund to be used for certain programs. Lease monies generated from reforestation areas and multiple use areas are deposited directly into the general fund, based on the classification of the land. If the leased land belongs to another State agency, the lease revenue is to be transferred to that agency." If Masonville doesn’t get a percent of the profit from lease of these lands, are taxpayers going to get stuck paying for town roads that will need repair due to VERY HEAVY EQUIPMENT traveling them? Will the natural gas lease terms prohibit the state from putting logging jobs out to bid for the entire life of the lease? This question may have to be answered by the DEC, but I see no harm in our community thinking about this before the damage is done. Quoted text from report “LEASE OF STATE LAND FOR GAS AND OIL EXPLORATION AND PRODUCTION”
July 23, 2008 23:45:02 Craig DuMond   Firstly, I am not concerned about whether someone voted for me or not...I am happy to assist in anyway I can regardless of voting, political party, etc. You may not like the answers I give you but you can always count on a straight answer from me! With the little space I have here I will try and address bertimouse's concerns: 1st the Fanne Mae / Freddy Mac bail out is a huge mistake. Why should we all pay for these failed mortgages? If the person was able to sign the contract he should have been responsible enough to read it and comply with it! If not so, the rest of us shouldnt have to pay for someone else's failures! The blighted properties in Masonville that the board is addressing mainly have to be dealt with due to various code and/or health violations posing a threat to public safety / health. The Town works with all individuals for a lengthy period to resolve problems prior to taking any official action. Official action on the part of the Board is always a result of a persons indifference toward correcting significant problems that pose issues for their neighbors, state laws and the public in general. The Board does not take this lightly as we all believe government intrusion should always be kept to the most minimum level possible. As far as the revaluation, I really do not have the room here to properly address this but I will try my best at the condensed version; It is truly in everyones best interest to maintain 100% valuation or market rate of properties. 1st it keeps the process transparent so that property owners can compare their properties to others similiar to determine if thier assessment is fair. To apply equalization formulas you need a lawyer to explain to you whether you are being properly assessed or not. 2nd, property owners exemptions are reduced on a sliding scale for each percentage point a property is assessed below 100%. Each time you town slides below 100% your STAR, Enhanced STAR, Agricultural and other appicable exemptions are reduced and you do not get the full exemption. 3rd, the town receives $5.00 per parcel for every parcel valued at 100% as an incentive to maintain 100%. This equates to about $6000 per year for Masonville and these funds are ALWAYS applied directly to the general budget to off set everyones taxes. Revaluations are calculated by the County and State based on the prior years property sales within the Town. If the overall value of sales goes up, so do assessments. If the overall value of the Town goes up then the tax rate per thousand actually decreases. Just because your assesment increases does not necessarily mean your taxes will increase by the same amount. For example, my assessment has increased significantly over the past 2 years but when calculating the tax increase I find only a modest increase in accordance with our operating budget, which is usually around 3-4 percent. I am, however, concerned with next years budget with the increase in fuel costs...the Town goes through a lot of diesel and we will need to budget double next year compared to this year. We have been diligent at keeping tight spending controls and we will reduce this impact to the taxpayer as best we can. Bottom line, we are all taxpayers, Board members included, and none of us want to spend a dollar more on taxes than we have to. We (the Board) always strives to do what is best for everyone as we do care deeply for this community. The Board has passed and forwarded to Albany many resolutions pertaining to property tax reform and property tax caps. Personally, I have 4 boys that I would like to have raise their own families in Masonville, just as my father and my grandfather did. Please call me personally or the County or State Office of Real Property Tax services for further information and/or clarification. I am happy to listen and address any issues the best way I can.
July 23, 2008 20:52:19 Chester   Bertimouse- Let him know you did not vote for him ( I do not or care whether you did or not) and see how deeply he or any other politician cares for you. <GRIN>
July 23, 2008 20:30:26 bertimouse   I'd like to ask our Town Supervisor these questions here in this forum, but since it's public I guess yall who can/will/may chime in, which is cool, don't you think? I love this Town I really do. Anyway Craig, what do you think about the new *CENSORED* Mae/Freddi Mac bill out right now? I've heard 1) That it will cost lots of taxpayer $$. 2)That if we don't support it, it could collapse the US & possibly the worldwide "market" investors in this area; sounds like scary stuff but you know they're always trying to scare us/congress/senate to vote one way or another, eh? 3)It would help the FHA with rescue $$ (i.e. to local towns)to rescue foreclosed properties over $200K to fix 'em up & re-sell 'em - CRAIG; DO WE REALLY HAVE THIS PROBLEM HERE WITH FORECLOSED >200k HOMES? 4)What is the current status of the (4?)currently blighted properties that Masonville Town is trying to take over? Seems our Town Board has already been taking care of us in this way, but the news report said that blighted houses lower the assessment rates of the houses all over any town. So my question is; so what for Masonville? Isn't this something like .02 percent of our total residents? 5)When my assessment went up (yet again) this year I was told it was because that even though the housing market was down, it was "up" in our area. Since the raise was not too bad I let it go but now I'm NOT so sure & am wondering if you guys are going to try & pull this "re-assessment" stunt again NEXT year? What gives with the assessments going on every year? It's just not right & you guys know it! We predict you will have a local war on your hands if you try & re-assess again to make the town financial numbers look good again. NUFF SAID! 6) PBS reported tonight that 6,500 homes are being foreclosed WEEKLY nationwide & the housing market will "be tough" & not ease until 2010. In closing I'd like to say Please Craig; we know you care deeply for us but take another look at how precious all of us in Masonville Town are. Thank you for your time. Please, stop that if you can. And thats all I have to say about that.
July 22, 2008 20:46:29 bertimouse   Well I must say yall have been busy since July 4th! 1)About the signs; the Masonville Democrats were really pushing this & suggested that they be made/placed/maintained at the borders of the Town,(not just the Hamlet) by the local children's groups in town [such as the boy scouts & the 4-H group] we were apparently ignored & told at a Town Meeting that the board just wanted signs that "they" didn't have to "maintain"; ie - just put 'em up & be done with it. So we don't like 'em for many reasons, err. 2)About the Highway appointment/election dilemma; we understand both sides. Let the townfolk decide in a vote which is how it should be decided anyway; just don't forget about it! 3)About bad dogs in town: We will shoot to kill on our property with NO QUESTIONS ASKED any dog/animal/person that threatens me or my family. End of story. Need there be any more discussion here? 4)About fires burning during the summer: Many people still burn their garbage. In Delaware Co. certain towns (if not all) still allow this. All the counties around us are banning burning garbage because of the nasty odors/toxic fumes being burned as well... if people were only more informed about what to and what NOT to burn! -The "stinkiness" you smell is from people burning PLASTIC in their garbage which is a definite NO-NO! In our house we call that "WMD" (Weapons of Mass Destruction). NO WMD in your burn pile yall! It's very nasty to breath, sprinkles down on your crops & is very BAD for your chickens, water, etc, etc... Recycle that stuff, please! 5) About fires burning during winter: Anyone locating an outdoor furnace should already know about where the wind blows in winter & be very mindful of their neighbors houses directly downwind. Again we've heard of some local towns making ordinances about outdoor furnaces. This is because people are just moving in & not thinking about their neighbors. 6) About this winter: It's going to be tough. We all need to be out there for eachother. Can we all stop fighting in the sandbox & agree on a few things like: a: saving a ton of $ for fuel oil bills this winter. b: Getting our troops home asap c:helping/remembering those who will need our help this winter. Yes there will be many I can tell yall right now! OK now, that's all I have to say about this & that.
July 22, 2008 13:29:30 Rt206er   Chester, I agree with about elected positions becoming appointed. I will most likely vote against this. I would like to learn more about the pros and cons. At this point this is how I feel. I will keep an open mind so I can get all the facts.
July 22, 2008 13:26:05 Rt206er   Tony, it was pretty scary at first. I would just like people in town to be mindful of others with their burning. Burning wood makes perfect sense with oil prices the way they are. I am going to burn wood this year too. My point is that it is summer and most people have their windows open. Nobody wants to smell and breath that all night. My lungs were bothering me all day. I feel better now. As a side comment for this winter- I wish there was a way to do something with the chimney on the outdoor furnaces so they are as high as peoples chimneys in their homes. The smoke from the outdoor furnaces saturates the whole town at times. I do see wood stove smoke at ground level but not very often. It's not pleasant going to work in the morning and smelling like smoke from going to your car. I don't know much about outdoor furnaces so if anyone wants to educate me, feel free.
July 22, 2008 10:11:36 Chester   As the Town Supervisor has shoved through Local Law #1-2008 abolishing the position of elected Highway Suprintendent it now behooves the taxpayers of this town to speak up and be heard. This will come to a vote in the general election. Like most of these local laws, this one will be placed on the ballot during a general presidential election as a deliberate move on the part of the politicians. Think about it. Why wasn't this a rush rush deal last year? Or next year? Why, all of a sudden, is it a matter of life and death this year? Local laws that are placed on general presidential elections are rarely defeated because they are lost in the shuffle and hub bub of the presidential election. - Don't let this one get lost. VOTE NO. You are losing more than just an Elected Highway Superintendent. Do you really want 4-6 people making all the decisions as to the running of this town? This would be especially true of the Highway Department. I am not sure what the "real" purpose behind rushing this to vote but I can surmise it has to do with someone wanting the job and not wanting to chance running for the position on a ballot. Keep in mind if this law passes every Highway Superintendent from that point on will not be the one the taxpayers want but will be on the basis of cronyism or "favor for favor". Cronyism frequently amounts to sending the fox to guard the hen house. - I for one will do all in my power to see this law defeated come general election.
July 22, 2008 09:32:31 Chester   Resident of Masonville - The April 2008 Town Board Minutes has that information. - The signs cost $1500.00 each plus the cost of materials and labor to erect them which the Town Highway Dept accomplished.
July 22, 2008 01:30:00 Resident of Masonville   I also would like to know how much was spent for those signs??$?
July 21, 2008 23:55:07 Tony - CR-20   WOW...this board is Great! You have discussions about Highway Superintendent jobs leading to Dog discussion and then complaints about garbage burning! It can't get any better than that! BTW - Rt206er, I'm down by 206 and 20. It wasn't me burning anything but that must have been quite a scare for you!
July 21, 2008 14:20:45 Rt206er   Sorry I didn't proof read my message better, it was early. If anyone needs me to translate it let me know.
July 21, 2008 05:05:11 RT206er lokidog5@gmail.com It's 4:43 AM Monday July 21st. I just got done running around my house to see if it is on fire. Luckily it is not not. Who the $&$! is burning god knows what??????? Ya put put with this from the outdoor furnaces all winter. A normal wood stove does not crank out the wood stove like they do. I know I've had a wood stove my whole life. BUT, It's summer and I have fans in my windows to keep things cool. It smells like plastic or something like it. Who ever is doing it, please think of someone other than yourself!!! If anyone knows who it is please let me know.
July 20, 2008 21:21:17 Chester   Fortunately the dog being discussed; (Which I do not know nor know where it lives) probably is not near as dangerous as it is perceived to be. Dogs that are kept confined to a small area or kept on chains for long periods of time tend to become very territorial and neurotic. Once free they view any and all other dogs and sometimes even other animals as infringing on their territory and will attack in an attempt to drive them off. - It is a great disfavor to a dog to keep it confined to a small area or on a chain. Dogs are pack animals and need others to complete their lives. In the case of pet dogs the owners and family become that pack. If one cannot make the dog part of the family you might better not have the dog. Think about yourself. If you were chained up or confined to a small area and the only contact you had with others was when they fed you or paid minimal attention to you; you also would become neurotic. Having a pet dog is a very real responsibilty on the part of the owner. I hope the owner of this dog comes to realize his or her responsibility to the community and to the dog.
July 20, 2008 21:06:56 Chester   CamoPrint - See the April 2008 Town Board Meeting minutes. It explains the cost and what was voted on.
July 20, 2008 20:11:11 CamoPrint   I've heard that its legally acceptable to shoot an attacking dog if it is harming you, your family, your livestock, or your pets. If this dog is really causing you this much concern.. next time it ends up biting your pets get out the ol' 12 gauge. Or do the morally acceptable thing and call animal control. And around how much each was spent on those signs anyway?
July 20, 2008 20:03:11 RT206er   Where does this dog live?
July 20, 2008 08:56:05 Charles   WARNING! WARNING! DANGEROUS DOG ALERT!! DANGEROUS DOG ALERT!! The following message should be used as valuable information to keep the people and animals in your life safe. I live on Rt.206 E., so does the dangerous dog that viciously attacked my dog on my property (FOR THE SECOND TIME IN LESS THAN A YEAR) at 5:40 a.m. Wednesday July 16, 2008. The owners of this menace are my neighbors to the west. The first incident occured on August 1, 2007. Luckily, that time my dog was able to escape with only a puncture wound on her leg. This was most likely due to the fact that we were on the bottom step of our deck. This time, my dog was not so lucky. I was standing on my deck while my dog was approx. 30 feet away "doing her business" when out of the bushes, between my neighbors house and mine, charged their dog. My dog immediately tried to run to me, but was mauled before she could make it back. She received a large, deep bite on her back left leg which required several stitches to close and a drain to be put in her leg (which she still has). The matter was turned over to our dog warden the same day. The owners still have this dangerous dog and claim that, this time, the dog "chewed through his kennel". The dog's kennel is constructed of chain-link fence! PLEASE BEWARE if you see a large, black, mix-breed dog roaming your area...it is dangerous! Everytime the dog gets loose, it runs away for 10-12 hours and then returns home (as was the case the day my dog was attacked). Who knows what other animals or possibly children have been, or will be hurt by this vicious animal. We consider our dog as a member of our family and this has hurt all of us. My beautiful, sweet, dog is now disfigured and scared to go outside. Again, please beware if you think you see this dog, it is dangerous!
July 19, 2008 15:46:28 Gerald   I think the signs look rather nice and enhance the town's apperance, However im really concerned about the article that was written about the problems with the fire department building and the tools that are in bad repair. What is going on here? How come it has gotten this far? Where is the monies going to? certainly not the Fire Department up keep ..
July 18, 2008 09:29:42 Chester   CamoPrint - If we go by the sign placement we would have to say 90% of the Town of Masonville is not included. I think you will find that the signs were intended to mark the boundries of the Hamlet of Masonville not the Town of Masonville. - I do not dislike the signs but I think they were a tad overpriced for what they are. But, that is hard to judge based on the cost of things these days.
July 17, 2008 19:18:01 CamoPrint   I hate the signs. Personally I think they look stupid. And I love how they're placed in town so that I'm apparently not considered to live in Masonville.
July 17, 2008 13:45:05 Chester   Perhaps the facts being missed here have nothing really to do with whether a Superintendent works 40 hours a week. The point of appointing a Superintendent is to place the power in fewer and fewer hands. That is my point in objecting to an appointed Superintendent. We elect people to fill positions in local government so the voter (taxpayer) has more voice and more control. If we elect "X" number of people to a "board" and that "board" makes the appointments then the voter (taxpayer) has turned over their rightful authority to make decisions to a small number of people who will operate not in accordance to the will of the people but in accordance to the will of a few. Perhaps this is not an issue or problem with the present board but what about the future? Can you be assured that it will never be a problem? An elected official, in the case of need, can be recalled while an appointed position is entirely under the control of any appointer. It would be rare for an appointer to admit a mistake had been made in appointing the person to the position as 99% of the appointments would be on "favor for favor" basis or on the basis of cronyism. An appointed position owes no allegiance to the taxpayer but rather his/her allegiance is to the person or board who made the appointment. Before turning over your control of the Highway Department. or any other Department of the town, consider all the facts and pros and cons. The argument has been put forth that an appointed Superintendent would give the Town Board more control. Exactly my point. Appointing to the position would ensure that the Superintendent works 40 hours a week. Was this an issue with the last Superintendent? How many appointed Superintendents are there in Delaware County? The Board of Supervisors refused to release that information to me thus I have a FOIL request before that agency and will know the answer soon, I hope. And in closing. Really folks you do not have to hide behind a nom de plume. If you believe what you are saying use your name.
July 17, 2008 12:07:50 Masonvillian Too   I suspect that the duties are not measured out in even 40 hour weeks like a desk job. What is required to maintaining the roads must be dependent on what the weather brings. So on a day when there is 3 hours worth of work is needed, let the man have a life. When there are 12 hours make him earn his money. If Masonville has needs over a full year that require 40K to compensate a compentent supervisor, fine it averages out over the year. Give him a 40 hour workweek and what will he do on the 3 hour day? Bilk us for 5 hours? When he needs to work 12 hours is he going to leave the work unfinished and say we didn't pay any over time? Maybe the board could detail what work is done and why it takes 40 hours a week with 40K being fair compensation. Perhaps making the job requirements and duties clearer to the tax payers is possible. If the taxpayers where clear on the duties and confident the elected/appointed is held accountable and would be removed if found to be doing less than 40K worth of work in a year, the matter of election vs appoiment is not as big of an issue.
July 16, 2008 21:15:50 Chester   No one compared anyone with "rotten apples". But read as you will. You would anyway. No one is taking anything away from what anyone has accomplished including the Town Supervisor. The discussion is about an appointed Road Superintendent VS Elected Road Superintendent. I don't happen to agree with doing away with any elected position. Especially a position that involves as much money as the Highway Department does.
July 16, 2008 20:49:47 Masonvillian   WOW...the Supervisor compared to "rotten apples"...I hardly think so. Isnt this the same guy who has made our town look better with flags, signs, etc and is now being criticized for it. Is this the same guy who has bought grave markers for our dead veterans graves? I guess that is a waste of money too! Or is it the same guy who has brought grant funding to our Town for the 1st time in years, most importantly a grant for a brand new ambulance at no cost to the locals? Maybe I am missing something here but it actually seems like we are moving forward and most folks are happy with these improvements. The last time I checked our highway chief made about 40k per year. If a new guy were to work 3 hours per day that would equate to over $250.00 per hour....I know some lawyers that charge less than that! As far as I am concerned if you are paid a full-time wage you should work a full day like the rest of us! Just because I get my work done early doesnt mean I can go home...my boss just has more for me to do...government workers should be treated no different. I support the supervisor and the board on what appears to be another right move for the people who pay the bills in our Town.
July 16, 2008 18:11:12 Craig DuMond   Chester, I certainly did not intend to disrespect you or deminish your opinion. I do not consider myself in a different class. As stated earlier I pride myself on public opinion and I have allowed the collective interests of everyone to guide me in my actions. Again, I apologize if you felt offended by my remarks...again that was not the intent. As always, I am more than willing to listen and respect your opinion at anytime. Craig
July 16, 2008 09:42:54 Chester   Supervisor DuMond - You ask why a person would not think an Appointed Superintendent would be better than an elected one? I thought I gave my reasons I, at least, believe a Superintendent should not be appointed. There are already enough "appointed" people collecting stipends and not doing anything to earn them. Your statement is very condescending; I really am not as ignorant as you might imply. You state this is not Washington, D.C. or Albany. No it is not, but take a look at a barrel of apples. Where do you find the most rotten apples? At the bottom of the barrel. It all starts at the bottom. I am 72 years old and been around this area all my life. I know how small town politics work. You state this matter of the Superintendent was discussed at length by the Town Board and they came to the unamimous decision that the Superintendents job should be appointed. When did this all happen? Where did it all happen? Certainly not at a public meeting. The meetings of the Town Board that I have attended I have not once heard any member of the Board speak in opposition to anything the Supervisor has said. In fact, I was rather shocked when there was no objection when the Supervisor told a non-board member to stop sending items to the Tri-Town News. Now, you state that you are very careful about how the "Board" spends the taxpayer money. Well, that is wonderful but it is your job to make sure the most bang for the buck is gotten from the taxpayers money. The new town signs are a very nice touch but are they really necessary at the price the taxpayers paid for them? Especially when one adds to the cost of them the time paid for erecting them, plus the cost of the posts they are attached to? The implied statement of your note that I, or anyone else that objects, should sit down and shut up because this matter will be on the ballot will not stand up with me. I am too old to be intimidated anymore. You are a very intelligent and capable gentleman and I am sure you are interested in what is best for Masonville but even the most capable person can be wrong from time to time. I know I certainly have been many, many times over the years and I certainly am not in the class of a Town Supervisor.
July 15, 2008 23:15:26 Craig DuMond   Why would a person believe that an appointed super would not be the best for the job? To do so indicates the Town Board does not have the best interests of the Town in mind. I can assure you the entire Town Board works diligently and honestly to represent the collective interests of the Town. This is not Washington DC or Albany, Masonville is our home town as well. As Supervisor, I do not run a dictatorship and do not micromanage the Town Board. After what I went through with the tragedy regarding the Masonville School, I pride myself on input, not only from the Board but from the public as a whole! An appointed Superintendent will not be answerable to the Supervisor, but to the Board members making up the Highway Committee. Contrary to popular belief the Supervisor only holds one vote on the Board, It takes a majority vote to get any business done. The Board as a whole debated this issue, considered all the variables, and decided the appointed superintendent would best represent the interests of the taxpayer. I consider overpaying anyone a huge problem and, as a Board member being directly responsible for the Town’s finances, I would certainly lose sleep over this if it were to happen. With home heating fuel and gas being the single most important factor in most households, the Board must be responsible in ensuring every tax dollar is being spent wisely and in the best interest of the taxpayer. As stated in my earlier post, I am more than willing to discuss this with anyone personally….feel free to email me or call….or better yet attend a Board meeting and let your feelings be known. You certainly have the right to your opinion and your opinion is important to the Board. Ultimately, the matter will be decided by the voters in November as the proposition regarding the status change of the Superintendent will be on the ballot.
July 15, 2008 11:31:25 Chester   The Highway Superintendent is elected by the voters because they feel he/she is best suited for the job. An appointed Highway Superintendent is appointed not because he/she is best for the job but because the "Board" feels he/she is the one for the job or because the "Board" feels he/she will more malable and easier to get the "Board's" wishes accomplished. The argument is being put forth that the "Board" could make sure the Highway Superintendent "works" 40 hours a week. The Highway Superintendent (key word being "Superintendent" is elected to oversee the highway department and make sure the job is being accomplished. If it takes 80 hours a week then he/she is obligated to do it. If it takes 8 hours a week he/she is obligated to do it. So, what difference does it make if the individual works 40 hours a week as long as the job is getting done? It troubles me right now that our Town Board is basically a rubber stamp for the Town Supervisior. What are we going to get if the Highway Superintendent is appointed? The Supervisor becomes the absolute dictator of what goes on in the Town and has to "Board" to rubber stamp his wishes. It has been noted that 90% of the Town Budget goes to the Highway Department. That is a perfect argument for having a GOOD elected Highway Superintendent on the job, not some toady, to make sure that money is being used and spent in the way the taxpayers want it. A Highway Superintendent should be accountable to the taxpayers NOT the Town Supervisor only. Again I say do not allow the position of Highway Superintendent to become a crony appointment. We are losing enough of our rights as citizens as it is. The argument was put forth that elected Highway Superintendents arrange it so they only work a few hours a week and make more money than doctors or lawyers. I would have to see the statistics on that one and I would like to know what small NY town has a Superintendent making more than a doctor or lawyer. If the Town of Masonville has enough money in its coffers to pay that kind of money to a Highway Superintendent I can certain come up with some good causes in the town to use the money for. From what I have seen I do not think overpaying ANYONE in the Town of Masonville is a problem I am going to lose any sleep over.
July 14, 2008 22:59:00 Craig DuMond   In regard to the Highway Superintendent Position; the last thing the Town Board has in mind is cronyism. I too understand that changing a position from elected to appointed is a very difficult decision. However, there are many reasons this makes sense, I will list a couple. The Town Board is responsible for the administration of all the Taxpayer's monies. 90% of the Town's budget is made up by the Highway Department. It only seems prudent to have the most control over the monies you are responsible for. 2nd involves work hours. In some locations elected highway supers do not work 40-hour work weeks. Since they only answer to the voters and make their own hours, many work just a couple to a few hours per day. When you break this down into an hourly wage, some of these supers make more that doctors and lawyers! We have not had this problem in Masonville, however, who knows what the future will bring. In keeping with getting the most bang for the taxpayer's buck, each employee should work 40 hours...an appointed super can be required by the Board to do this, an elected one cannot. The voters can continue to regulate their satisfaction/dissatisfaction with the super position through the elected Board and Town Supervisor. I will be happy to discuss this rationale with anyone seeking questions and/or clarification....please call me at 369-4338.
July 11, 2008 13:16:21 Zukira zukira@fallenswordirc.com I agree with you 100% there Chester!
July 07, 2008 22:58:14 Tony - CR-20   Hey Chester...guess it wasn't as bad as you thought. You have a right to your opinion and frankly, I agree with it. If I was 3 years older and living up there full time, I would have thrown my name in the hat! That type of work is right up my alley. I've been doing it for 26 years down in the City. Anyway...hope everyone had a great 4th of July. The weather was great and the town looked fantastic! Even saw some fireworks along CR 20! All the best - Tony
July 07, 2008 19:29:08 bertimouse   Here Here, Chester; we are in total agreement with that.
July 06, 2008 13:14:29 Chester   I realize that the statment I am about to make will probably cause me to be flamed to the point that my computer will burst into flames - BUT - I understand that it has been proposed by the Town Board that the position of Highway Superintendent be an appointed position rather than an elected one. -WARNING- to residents and voters this is and has been used in many areas as just a way of the few and influential taking more and more control of the running of a Town. NO elected position should be done away with. It is cronyism at its worst. At best it insures absolutely nothing except some influential person will get a job for a crony.
July 06, 2008 13:02:16 Chester   Hiya CamoPrint - I was just being factious. I know that 4th fireworks, unless someone complains, are pretty much ignored. Although, I will say the scanner was alive with fireworks calls around the area this weekend. I think I was more referencing the fact that we have Troopers that like to sit in the Masonville area and hand out frivilous summoneses; such as burned out license plate lights. (Happened very recently to a family member.) Seems that we should have better use of $60K a year law enforcement officers.
July 06, 2008 10:14:34 CamoPrint   Actually chester, I've seen real fireworks every year. Most troopers just turn a blind eye towards them on the 4th.
July 06, 2008 10:13:57 CamoPrint   Actually chester, I've seen real fireworks every year. Most troopers just turn a blind eye towards them on the 4th.
July 01, 2008 17:49:14 Dodie   My sister Laurie and I are the ones who met with Halyna at the Crescent Wrench Cafe on Sunday (coming from opposite directions). We had not seen each other for many many years. It was a lovely reunion, enhanced by the warm hospitality and good food provided. Thank You!
June 30, 2008 11:48:11 Halyna   I had a tiny reunion with two friends from my Wellesley, MA grade school and we met at the Masonville General Store/Cafe. I drove up from Kingston, NY and they came down from Moravia, NY. The owners generously let us sit there for hours, taking up two tables with all our photos that showed our life for the past 48 years! The food was delicious and we had a great time in your little town.
June 30, 2008 07:27:10 Kathy klpchn@yahoo.com Hi Kindred Spirit! The Pennysaver has listed: "July 4th, Oneonta's 4th of July Hometown Celebration, Neahwa Park, Oneonta (607)432-1500. This annual hometown celebration offers food and games and loads of musical entertainment on the main stage at Neahwa Park. Free Oneonta Tigers baseball game at Damaschke Field. The area's largest fireworks display at dusk!" Also "CLASSIC CAR CRUISE-IN: Friday, July 4, Chenango County Fairgrounds, Norwich. Doors open at 12 pm, fireworks at dusk! Food, vendors, carnival, midway. See the cover of the Norwich Pennysaver the week of July 1 for more details."
June 29, 2008 19:32:42 Chester   LOL Fireworks display? If anyone lit a sparkler in Masonville on the 4th; half the NYS Troopers would be on the scene in 2 minutes. LOL
June 29, 2008 16:35:12 kindred spirit kindredspirit96@hotmail.com Does anybody know where there are fireworks near Masonville on July 4th? I'll be driving from Albany, NY, to Binghamton, NY on July 4th in the evening, and was hoping to find a festival or two, with fireworks.
June 24, 2008 11:44:28 Doug cats22@frontiernet.net Those with swimming pools in need of filling could have accomplished the task recently with a few strategically placed _giant_ funnels positioned to capture the downpours. Geez, lawn-mowing has been 'rained out' a lot of days this season, hasn't it?
June 23, 2008 21:07:45 Tony - CR-20 anapolitano@dot.nyc.gov Hey Grumpy...yeah, back to work. Left Sunday but will be back up this Friday. Left the gate open so Tom Sherman can get in there and do so work on the stream. Hope to meet you this weekend Grumpy! All the best - Tony
June 23, 2008 16:32:55 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Grumpy@MasonvilleNY.com I mistyped my other email address in the previous post. It is cdr_keidel@hotmail.com - I posted it as it appears that my Grumpy@MasonvilleNY.com address may be malfunctioning.
June 23, 2008 15:59:50 Grumpy Ernst Keidel csdr_keidel@hotmail.com Hey Tony! Almost barged in on you today, and would have, had your gate been ajar. It was bolted, though not padlocked. How long will you stay?
June 21, 2008 07:15:03 George Denys gdenys@citlink.net I attended the Fire Commisioners meeting last night. The pools are not being filled due to liability reasons. If any private property is damaged by the Fire Department then the fire district is liable. We simply cannot afford the risk. Most other Fire Districs have already taken the same steps. I feel it was a very productive meeting. The public is invited to attend the Fire Commisioners meetings as they are open to the public. They meet on the second Tuesday of each month on the second floor of the fire hall. The Fire Commisioners are elected positions and submit their own budget that is included in our town budget.
June 20, 2008 18:24:17 Christopher DuMond christopherdumond@yahoo.com the new welcome signs look great! it adds a nice image to the town im proud to live in!
June 19, 2008 21:56:54 Tony - CR-20   Hey George...hope all is well. No red roof on my place. I'm up towards 206...red brick / black gates. Former Scheffler residence. House is in white. I'll be up again this weekend, stop by if you like. All the best, Tony
June 19, 2008 18:19:13 George Denys gdenys@citlink.net Hey Chester, I sure am not ashamed about being a Lumberjack. You are correct, we are the cats wiskers. I grew up on a farm on Big Hollow road. Used to bike over the top to Sanford to the store on the corner. Long gone now. Did anyone catch the Mooving joke? I spell it wrong for a reason but I guess you had to be there. Lots of great memories from Deposit. Hey Tony from CR20 is yours the one with the red roof??
June 18, 2008 13:45:52 Chester   Bertiemouse - While I cannot answer for MVFD; the FD's I have been associated with stopped filling pools due to the liability connected with it and the cost of insurance. Using fire apparatus for purposes other than what it was intended usually brings about liability and problems most FD's do no want to get involved in.
June 17, 2008 20:09:38 bertimouse   Hi Greg, Do you think the fire dept. board reps. would be willing to answer questions about filling swimming pools here? -Don't have one but must think it's got something to do with the gas money to get the trucks to the pool locations? Otherwise, here's some more great WATER-USE thoughts; 1) How about having a "FREE MASONVILLE SWIM FESTIVAL" in July or August at OQUAGA CREEK STATE PARK. 2)How about free admission there ALL SUMMER to full-time Masonville residents, eh? Our Town government should look into ways of supporting something like this.
June 13, 2008 08:57:49 Greg Tiska gregtiska@yahoo.com JUST TO INFORM YOU THE BOARD OF FIRE COMMISIONERS HAS DECIDED THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL NO LONGER FILL SWIMMING POOLS. ANY QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED BY THEM.
June 12, 2008 23:17:39 mike sherman   gosh it seems like a lifelong natice could hep yall with directions heri in msvle but i get lost at the end of me driveway!??//I will say that i was impressed with gillies rep he promised hed get back to me and remembr me name in the morn.The proof is in the pudn,but i am hopefull cause theres son sirious flaws with whats goin on in the rest of this country Mike
June 12, 2008 21:41:58 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Grumpy@MasonvilleNY.com Though the paper said that Congresswoman Gillibrand would be at the Federated church at 0900 Hours today, no one showed up. By 0945, some of us were starting to get rowdy, with one person actually calling the Sidney Mayor AND the police for informstion on her whereabouts. At 1000, an affable young man named Benedict McCaffree showed up to speak to the gathered Masonvillains. He explained that Ms. Gillibrand was precluded from flying so soon after childbirth. Regional Representative McCaffrey did a fine job placating everyone present and left everyone hopeful that at least some of their requests and grievances would be met.
June 12, 2008 17:48:02 bertimouse   Hi Robin, Hey sorry to hear about the penquins. Does anyone have a picture of them? Maybe the H.S. art students could replicate them? The new sign is real nice! :)
June 12, 2008 14:52:25 Robin Little   About "The Penguin", my grandmother opened the shop in the mid to late 60's after she had bought it in Sidney and ran the place there for a season. The second light in Sidney is approx. where it was. I remember the equipment and signs being stored at my parents that winter. As for the sign, the original was the cone (which is still used) and a pair of penguins licking the cone. The penguins were stolen and returned a couple of times and then were stolen again and never found. I believe the cone and penguins were made by Sidney high school art students. The other signs have been repainted a few times as I myself have done it for my grandmother. There are no old signs sitting in a basement anywhere. Has anyone seen the new signs at the old Wheeler farm on Rte 8 south? It is a nice welcome sign to our town.
June 11, 2008 21:44:15 bertimouse   Hi Tony and Martha, too. A PBS show tonight mentioned that only 1 in 5 people have even SEEN the milky way! Um, I hope you know what I'm talking about? For this we are truly blessed here and have a ring-side seat. Have you ever been here during the August meteor showers? A couple years back it was incredible! Makes me want to start up a Masonville star-gazer club on someone's(?) hill somewhere... Just think, when you are retired and finally free of your hassled, stress-filled lives on the flatland you will no longer have to breath all that polluted air and pay those nasty taxes on two homes, and can concentrate all you assets locally here where (if you attend the town meetings) you can actually see and hear all about the good places your dollars will be spent. Hey what a concept. I wish you much peace until you join us full time, eh?
June 11, 2008 21:17:55 bertimouse   Ok Grumpy, I stand corrected. :) I must have been thinking 7 minutes to get there from the four corners not 7 miles. :)
June 10, 2008 21:04:29 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Grumpy@MasonvilleNY.com Actually, Bertimouse, the distance from "downtown" Masonville's blinking stop lights to the "Penguin" is precisely 4.3 miles! Since you challenged me, I measured the distance today. And that ice cream machine is not as old as I; it was acquired as a new unit in the very early 60s. Practically became trapped there, this afternoon, not wishing to get absolutely soaked trying to make it back to my vehicle during the deluge!
June 10, 2008 20:38:25 doug cats22@frontiernet.net Craig -- I saw a mention by you a while back (in May) about "snow globes." I don't have a clue what they are, but maybe could you have the kids wave a few around to chase settle this heat down? The storm moving through this evening is helping, but MORE help may be needed!
June 10, 2008 09:03:10 Chester   Bertimouse - No problem. I think the Penguin was in operation back in the early 60's when I worked at the "Scintilla" and traveled Rte. 8 back and forth to work. As to the ice cream machine; it may be older than "Grumpy" but I really doubt it is older than me. LOL.
June 10, 2008 00:31:40 bertimouse   Pardon me Chester; all of my comments today were intended to be directed to Grumpy instead. Forgive me for confusing you! On the other hand Grumpy; you should know exactly what I've been trying to discuss with you here, eh?
June 10, 2008 00:21:02 bertimouse   Actually, Chester, it's more like 7 miles south down route 8 towards Deposit from our four corner stop signs. Here's some more "Penguin Lore" I heard which is why I love this place; the reason why everyone called it the "Penguin" is because there was a big sign with a Penguin on it; and yes, the Penguin burger is legendary and they still serve it there, and the original Penguin Sign is still sitting in someone's basement right now waiting to be re-painted and put back up on the roof next to the ice cream sign whenever the current owner's feel like it. Besides their inside restaurant food which is fresh and made to order, their best kept secret is their home-mixed ice cream made with a unique machine that's probably older and better put together than you are, Chester! :) My mission in life is to taste every flavor they have during the next three summers, eh? Wish me luck! Lot's of good eating there, always!
June 09, 2008 21:59:25 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Grumpy@MasonvilleNY.com Penguin Burgers? Yes, I had one today at "Country Cream," just about 4 miles south of downtown Masonville, on Route 8. It was a fine repast, complete with onion, lettuce, and burger fixins, and no penguins were hurt in the preparation of this dish! Penguin Burger? Well, the "Country Cream" used to be known as "The Penguin" in years past. At first glance, it appears to be just another soft ice cream stand with window service. Yet, if you use the entrance door to the right of the building, you’ll practically find a full service restaurant, dispensing all the traditional fast foods, in addition to 51 (yes, fifty-one!) flavors of ice cream. Eat your heart out, Baskin and Robbins! Oh, and they’re far enough out in the country to have a horse hitching rack out back. Saw it used last week, when two patrons actually did ride up on horseback and tied their mounts up in back.
June 08, 2008 17:33:01 Chester   ADDENDUM: BUT - The mayor of Binghamton is looked upon as a hero for flying a flag for sodomy.!!
June 08, 2008 17:31:03 Chester   I see the Walton Village Board (after much discussion) voted to start Village Meetings with prayer. What a novel Idea!!(please note irony) Asking for God's guidance and direction. 75 -100 years ago no public meeting would have started without prayer.
June 07, 2008 17:02:26 Brad brad825@ptd.net Hi I bought a German Shorthair pup from a guy outside of Masonville. , I think his first name is George. Does anyone know him or how to get in tiuch with him. I would like to buy another dog from him. Thank you, Brad
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June 07, 2008 06:08:57 mike sherman   Hey burtmouse talk to bonnie trip,she lives across from church below don rudes house,she has marched in parade with red hats before!
June 06, 2008 19:26:26 bertimouse   Ok folks, just one more message from me here (sorry for talking so much. :)) I saw a sign today about a barbeque benefit being held at the firehouse tomorrow for Duane's family. 10 a.m. until sold out. Just trying to spread the word, so nuff said eh?
June 06, 2008 18:53:38 bertimouse   Hi Craig, Thanks for the clarification on the "Kids and Critters" club; I didn't see the classic "4H" clover sign when they marched. That's wonderful that this has been organized for the kids of Masonville. Is there any way that all of the organized clubs could have their own spot on the town website that people could click on to see their activities, etc? Maybe for a small fee from these clubs? I'd love to see a ladies "Red Hat Society" chapter in Masonville started up some day; I think it'd be a HOOT to march in Red and Purple at the parade, he he! :) And I know there are people that really want to start up a garden club, too but it's hard to get organized sometimes...what do you think?
June 06, 2008 18:19:27 bertimouse   Hey George, that was the nicest, most thought-out message I've read on this current topic; You really hit the nail on the head there about "what not to say". I've seen some 2nd-homers show up at the Town Mtgs. only when they want to complain about something, which I never had a problem with, but allot of times they start out with that saying. -If you look around at the other people's faces in the room as they talk; you can see the eyes roll and the sighs and foot shuffling, and I just sit there and think that these folks just shot themselves in the foot before they even got started. When I visited Montreal for a week in college, everyone complained about how the French Canadians hated us; well, I had no problem because I spoke a little French and tried using their own language. Even though I butchered their language they appreciated that. I've traveled some in Mexico, Dominican Republic and Trinidad/Tobago and butchered the Spanish language there too, but the locals love it when you try and speak their language. I lived for a summer in midtown Manhattan too. The strangest part about living there was that I was the only native NY'R there where I was, and to fit in, there were a whole different set of ways of living that was fun to discover about! :) I guess that's where the saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do" comes from, eh? :)
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June 04, 2008 14:09:16 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Grumpy@MasonvilleNY.com Well Mike, I know you've met me! I've even been to your home to talk cars and water/gas conversions. Unfortunately, I was not able to be in town for the Memorial Day parade. Perhaps some of the recent anonymous posters will come to the town council meeting tonight and identify themselves.
June 04, 2008 04:33:27 Mike sherman   Gosh I wonder if i know some of you people who send message on these contraptions. When i was young and foolish i knew who lived in almost every house in town,course 45 yrs ago there was alot fewer houses. time has a way of changin the faces here and probably everywhere else.Ivd enjoyed 99% of all the new faces ive met[theres one in every crowd]And 99% of the new faces have met at least one member of my family.If ya saw the memorial day perade you might have seen me dressed up as part of a horse and ill probably dew it again next year.If some of the new faces have charicture and time enough to run in the parade its a great waay to meet some of the locol horses in mason ville , maybe ill see yall there Mike
June 02, 2008 16:46:59 Chester   George Denys -- Never be ashamed of being a Koo Kooser. (Where nature blesses and man progresses). We Lumberjacks from DCHS are the cats whiskers. While I was not born in Deposit I spent most of my youth and teen years not far from there in the sprawling metropolis of North Sanford. I would judge from your age group I was leaving the area about the time you arrived. LOL
June 01, 2008 14:14:36 Tony - CR-20   Very well said George!
May 31, 2008 13:31:36 Mike Sherman cherylmike80@yahoo.com Hey ruth thx for mention of this site in yer Bitchin letter im gonna try to make it to the gilly show on june 7 @ mvl church.Take a deep breath and hang in there cause friday is coming!! Mike
May 31, 2008 07:17:48 George Denys gdenys@citlink.net Upstate-Downstate. I was born in Deposit, a fact that most folks say I should keep to myself, but left to joing the Air Force at age 17. I, therefore, only had seen this area through a child's eyes before moving back here in 2001. I lived many places such as New Mexico, England ect. and visited many more such as Germany, Korea, and Japan before moving to Orange Co. NY (Stewart ANGB)for my last 8 years of service. When I mooved back two things struck me. The first was that this area had ALOT more downstaters that had mooved here and second was how some locals still (one generation later) had an enormous amount of animosity directed to them! Every one of my neighbors is from somewhere else and I am here to tell you that they are some of the most helpfull and friendly folks I have ever met. People have to realize that "Downstaters" disliked the city life as well.....that's why there here. They made a living there, got a retirement, and got out. And when they got here they found SOME locals that resented the fact that they have something....like a retirement. Well, I know for a fact you have to bust your *CENSORED* downstate to make it. No one stands on the street corner handing out money. So to the downstaters that mooved here I say WELCOME. You bring a much needed boost to our economy and you are welcome in my house anytime. One little piece of advice.....don't ever say "back in (fill in the blank with were you came from) we did it this way or that way. That is the quickest way to infuriate a local. They will not hear anything you say after that. And for good reason. Our needs and problems here are much different that in more affluent area's. You are much better off saying, "what can I do to help?" Just my two cent's, George....from County 20.
May 31, 2008 00:16:28 Bertimouse   Dear Martha, Masonville will be just FINE with or without you. PL&H, (Peace, Love & Happiness) Bertimouse.
May 31, 2008 00:14:46 Bertimouse   Dear Martha, Masonville will be just FINE with or without you. PL&H, (Peace, Love & Happiness) Bertimouse.
May 30, 2008 20:25:58 Tony - CR-20   Hello Martha...thanks for the welcome but you have to chill out a little! Must be the high gas prices talking. LOL I know exactly what you mean except for one thing, the locals. They have been very helpful most of the time. And Berti...you are not kidding when you talk about the night time sky up here. It is really beautiful on a clear night. So beautiful that I feel like shooting out the security lights on the property to enjoy it even more. Wish there was a way to turn them *CENSORED* things off! Enjoy the weekend folks! All the best - Tony
May 30, 2008 18:51:04 Chester   Michael - I do believe the plans for the original planned tower had to be adbandoned. But, as you know the grist mill of time grinds slowly and heavily and I understand that someplace down the corridor of time there is a cell phone tower.
May 30, 2008 13:02:03 Michael Spiffy2177@aol.com I bought my house almost 2 years ago. I am was told when I bought my house that there was going to be a cell tower going up. I was wondering what the status of the the cell tower is.
May 29, 2008 20:38:10 martha   Welcome Tony, from one down stater to the next. You have to wonder if anyone up here has anything nice to say about us. We work 12hr days to get a 3 day weekend, drive 4hrs and spend 150 on gas and tolls, work our 2nd homes to make them decent. Would hire locals to help but it seems to be sport to take advantage of flatlanders. We pay our property taxes (more often than not more than the locals) we do not have any exemptions. We use very few sevices and pay a bundle. We post our land because many locals believe they have a right to use what is not theirs. I too thought I would retire up here one day. I hope I did not make a mistake. Most of us pay taxes without representation but I do hope that more and more of us register to vote in the local elections. What most locals don't get is that most people come up here not to change the community, but to be part of it.
May 29, 2008 14:46:05 Craig DuMond   Cloverbud (junior members)are 5-7, regular members 8-18. Either can be a part of a club. The Kids and Kritters Club has been busy since inception early this year...some activities being; making of snow globes, painting of benches (community service), home-made making of maple syrup, gardening and preparing for the Delaware County Fair just to name a few. The more kids the merrier!!!...Craig
May 29, 2008 09:49:17 Susie   Hello- Have we decided on a lawn sale day here in town? I heard a rumor of the 16th... And what is the age range for 4-H members, Craig? Thanks!
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