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September 04, 2008 17:20:20 Chester   I was not referring to whether a person is guilty or not guilty of what they are be accused I was pointing out the devious way the officer will get you to confess to a crime. LOL
September 04, 2008 17:10:56 Camoprint   Then you shouldn't get pulled over for going to fast in the first place and if you do then you deserve the ticket.
September 04, 2008 17:01:24 Chester   Camoprint as a matter of fact I do know some state troopers. Not as personal friends but, yes, I do know them. The days of "Protect and Serve" has sadly degenerated into "Catch and Convict" in this society. Why shouldn't law enforcement have the mentality they do? We have involved them in every petty disagreement that happens. People even call the police because they are unable to handle their 10 year old. Even the acadamies teaching our law enforcement teach them that the "arrest above all" they teach them to be devious and underhanded when dealing with the public. Ever been stopped for going to fast? After the officer asks for your license and registration (effectively handcuffing you as you are going no place without those items) he then asks "Do you know how fast you were going?" You being an honest citizen will name some figure obviously in excess of the posted speed. BINGO, you just confessed to a crime in the presence of a law enforcement officer. LOL Other than a capital crime I can think of nothing I would voluntarily involve law enforcement in this day and age. Everyone is guilty of something in their eyes these days. That was not always so but we have brought it on ourselves. As to kicking my (CENSORED). That is you privilege to attempt. LOL
September 04, 2008 16:36:31 Camoprint   Well then maybe it's about time. And as I think another resident once said "a boot in the *CENSORED*" for saying that Troopers "view everyone except another law officer as a slime bag." Do you even KNOW a state trooper personally?
September 04, 2008 16:04:40 Chester   camoprint I have not had a summons in probably 40 years. LOL
September 04, 2008 16:01:42 Camoprint   Chester, veiled threats do not consist of someone saying "Watch it!" which a clear and open indication of intent. =) Just don't get pulled over..
September 04, 2008 15:45:58 Chester   Rte206- Perhaps you should take the time to read what I said. I did not indicate I disliked State Troopers or any other law enforcement. I was pointing out how we use their services in the wrong way. And please do not use vailed threats in your replies. Opinions are not subject to threats; disagreement yes but threats no matter how vailed no. :)
September 04, 2008 15:16:39 route 206   Obey the law and have nothing to worry about ! When you pick on state troopers you are picking on family, and in the town of Masonville we have a few ! Watch it ! They are just doing their job ! Be grateful instead of hateful.
September 04, 2008 11:11:04 Chester   Rick I am sending electronic copies of both documents to your E-Mail address and will also mail hard copies to your snail mail address.
September 04, 2008 10:56:14 Chester   While I am fully aware that we need law enforcement I wonder if the way we utilize that resource is not wasteful of the taxpayers money. Why would we need a State Trooper sitting along Rte. 8 to hand out summonses for burned out license plate lights? Or why do we need to dispatch a law enforcement officer to a disabled motorist to harrass and ticket the poor person? We wonder why the attitude of Law Enforcement when they view everyone except another law officer as a slime bag and deserving of what ever happens to them. Well, one reason is the useless and foolish things law enforcement is asked to do. Over the years law enforcement has turned what should be a common effort into a "them" and "us" situation. Every law enforcement officer knows that the very things he or she will give you a summons for they are totally immune too. The very trooper sitting along Rte 8 handing out summonses for speeding in Masonville knows he or she can get in their own vehicle and drive through Masonville at any speed they choose and nothing will happen. Why? Because law enforcement has turned into a "them" against "us" in the eyes of the officer. This is too bad when actually law enforcement should be a community effort.
September 03, 2008 21:44:26 Rick Moore To Chester, Yes I just finished my 2nd book, entitled Gulf Summit, New York Part II, Meteors, Mysteries and Murder (The Rest of The Story), its avail at the Deposit Historical Society, 90 pages, I did not extend history into Deposit or Masonville, I was REALLY trying to stay focused on Gulf Summit Stuff. I would be happy to pay for postage, copying. My mailing address is Rick Moore, 5773 Quicksilver Circle, Las Vegas, NV 89110. phone 702-220-8079
September 03, 2008 21:33:05 Rick Moore Let me introduce myself. My name is Rick Moore, I grew up in Gulf Summit 1960-1977, had recently seen info on your web concerning Gulf Summit History item. Is is possible to obtain a copy from someone?
September 02, 2008 13:58:29 Masonville General Store Wellness workshop this Sunday, from 1-3pm @ Masonville General Store. Bolster your immune system with a comprehensive list of foods and herbs that help balance and nourish us as summer transitions into fall. Nurse-herbalist, Marguerite Bower will discuss what we can collect, preserve and store to sustain our health for the winter months ahead. $10 Preregistration requested
September 02, 2008 13:49:39 Masonville General Store Hi Josh, Best wishes from the General Store coffee crew!
September 02, 2008 12:48:01 Grumpy Ernst Keidel There's not much to refresh, CamoPrint! My knowledge of Masonville residents is limited to those who attend the town council meetings (tomorrow, BTW) and those who frequent the Masonville General Store and Crescent Wrench Cafe!
September 01, 2008 21:28:10 CamoPrint   And they've lived there for as long as I remember. You need to refresh your knowledge of well known Masonville residents Grumpy.
September 01, 2008 00:41:43 Rude   Its Josh, my parents live across the street from the quickway. My enlistment is up in February, and I plan on coming back at least for a little while when I get out. Hope all is well in Masonville!!
August 31, 2008 10:01:22 Chester   Today I feel honored! - I placed an item for sale on Craigslist and I received not one but three offers for the item. Each of them was a poorly worded and composed scam letter. LOL One even told me that they had already mailed a "certified" check but they had mistakenly made it out for $4500.00 instead of $150.00 so "pleze deposit and send the balnce to my mover." Worst part is is that law enforcement will not act on these and the FTC will only take a report, not act. I suppose if I actually receive a check it could be construed as mail fraud but I doubt it. Something really has to be done about these internet scammers. I do not understand how anyone, in this day and age, can fall for these but from the number of them around I gather that people still do. The worst part is that if a person actually falls for these scams and deposits the bogus check the bank will have the depositor arrested; not the issurer of the fake check. Oh well, I guess "a bird in hand is better than two in the bush." Banks, lawyers and news reporters; the bann of the earth!
August 30, 2008 11:55:18 Grumpy Ernst Keidel HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Sky Pilot! You know who you are
August 29, 2008 22:55:31 bertimouse   Masonville,NY deserves a big "atta-way" this summer. Berti wishes All a great weekend here, eh? Please have/give Peace, Love & Happiness to all. :)
August 29, 2008 20:02:08 bertimouse   Hey, "Salud" Rude! (I think Salud means hello in Italian/Spanish(?}-forgive me if I've[LOL]goofed about that.Trying to rhyme here.) Anyway; -Hi back to you in Iraq! Hope ya don't have to Labor too much on Labor Day! We're thinking warm fuzzy thoughts & praying for you & buddies Always no matter where/what 'yall are or doing. Don't forget to vote this year, eh? :)-Have a great weekend knowing that Much Love from Masonville,NY is Shining Your Way Always, eh? :) P.S.-Don't CWY I.D. is; doesn't matter TM&FTS,YK? Take Care. :)
August 29, 2008 11:00:37 Chester   Rick Moore- Sorry that should read "Two not To" LOL
August 29, 2008 10:58:34 Chester   Rick Moore - I have to documents reletive to Cord Wood at Gulf Summit. I would be happy to email copies of said documents although I am not sure how readable they will be by scanning and mailing by E_Mail. You would have been in the Gulf Summit area about the time I left the Deposit area. I lived in that area from 1942-1957 (My youth.) Have you written any local History beyond the one you published about The New York and Erie?
August 29, 2008 08:59:48 Grumpy Ernst Keidel As a father whose two sons returned from Iraq, ealier this year, I say "Hi" to you, Rude! It would be good if you could identify yourself further. What is your connection to Masonville?
August 29, 2008 00:25:27 Rude Just wanted to say "HI" to everyone in Masonville from Iraq!!!
August 28, 2008 19:58:28 Rick Moore Chester or Tony, not sure who has the paperwork concerning Cord Wood but Grew up in Gulf Summit and continue to colleect historical tidbits, what the chance of getting a photo-copy? Gulf Summit 1960- 1977,
August 27, 2008 11:22:31 Tony CR-20   "Happy Birthday Grumpy!" Hope you have a great day! I'll be up just about every weekend doing extensive remodeling so I'll give you a call during a week to see if we could hook up on a Saturday morning at the "crossroads". Again...have a great day & Happy Birthday! All the best - Tony
August 25, 2008 20:36:12 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Sounds like a plan, Tony! Just let me know when you'll be in town again. Most days are OK for me, although things will be a little busy this week. My youngest son is still here and my eldest son is coming up for my birthday on the 27th. After that, both sons will return to Massachusetts and I have to see that niece Namkyung has a smooth high school sophomore year start.
August 25, 2008 18:14:08 Tony CR-20   Hey Commander...hope you had a nice journey. Yep, the store was everything you said and more. The pictures do not do it justice in the "around town" section. Maybe you can update them? Seeing your mug there was classic! Elena would have bought everything in the store but we were pressed for time...thank god. Maybe I'll meet you there one morning over the weekend to enjoy a nice cup of java and interesting conversation.
August 24, 2008 18:41:02 Grumpy Sorry I missed you, Tony! We were out of state for the week. Drove one of our nieces to her college town of Fulton, MO. You have met our niece Namkyung. She's still here with us. This was niece Eunjoo, here on a foreign exchange program. She will do her sophomore year at Westminster College in Missouri. BTW, Andrew mentioned that you had been by the store. I'm glad you found it to be everything I said!
August 24, 2008 14:19:30 Tony CR-20   Now I've seen everything!! I arrive in town and forgot to pickup milk for the weekend. I've been meaning to stop by the Masonville General Store and check it per Grumpy's advice. Anyway, walk in and I couldn't believe how beautiful the place was on the inside. Met Andrew and we spoke for a while and I found out that he too is also from Queens! I mentioned Grumpy's name and he pointed out that Grumpy has his own coffee cup in the rack for when he comes in! Now I've seen everything!!! Anyway folks...for those of you that have not been in go and check it out. The place has just about everything you can think of and a nice atmosphere. The weather was great up there this weekend...didn't get much accomplished but enjoyed the stay anyhow. All the best - Tony
August 23, 2008 23:18:12 NYorker   Anyone done seen one of yer newest residents? A real short, skinny old white lady with nappy, yellow hair, some 22 earrings and two little dogs? I hear she's a real hoot!
August 22, 2008 13:24:37 RT206   Well lets take a break from all this comic relief.And go out enjoy the weather.And to stop by the new Ice Cream and food shop.In front of Fred Barse.Lori's snack shack.RT8 toward Sidney.We stopped there last night good food and Ice Cream.Good Prices to.
August 22, 2008 00:12:27 Tony CR-20   I'm doing very well Berti, thanks for asking. Hope all is well with you. I'm heading up there shortly after posting this message to enjoy the beautiful weekend weather expected up there. Anyway...isn't it a sin that whatever you do these days you always have to worry about liability? Wonder what life was like before lawyers??? Enjoy your weekend folks!
August 21, 2008 18:57:03 bertimouse   Hey Tony, how ya doing? Sorry I forgot about purchasing the fair tics in advance, glad you had a good time though & hey, this 'aint no dating service here eh? (He He.)*** Chester are you out there? My last message was responding to both you & countryboy's message at the same time, sorry if I confused yall. LOL Chester, are you reading what Tony's suggesting ;) ?!? Anyway you have some good points on the legal issues; I guess the good doctor has to also be a good lawyer now too heh heh. But if the Town got a great deal on someone else fixing up one of their roads, why wouldn't they give that person a break by taking over the so-called liability after it was made passable? OK call me naive & nuff said since I'm just trying to offer some optimistic solutions without being so er knowledgeable about that stuff. So (If I might wax philosophically here for a second): every sixty seconds you spend being upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. Stay funny neighbors; I Love you much & enjoy the fantastic Masonville weather this weekend.
August 21, 2008 13:33:53 Tony CR-20   I think Chester & Berti should meet and go out on a date. You guys would make an interesting pair and the conversations would be priceless! :-) BTW...thanks for the info on the fair Berti, had a good time there but didn't get to see to demolition derby. Maybe next year.
August 21, 2008 11:16:19 Chester   Bertimouse, perhaps you should reread my note about the problems of an individual maintaining a public road. At no time did I mention anyone "demanding" a road be paved. I was merely pointing out that I did not believe it would be legally possible for an individual to maintain a public road be it seasonal or not. If I were to maintain or plow the road in front of my house and someone had an accident on that stretch of road the town would be held liable. In my case it would be the state held liable, but, you get what I mean. As to me depressing you. For that I am sorry. I tend to be outspoken in my opinions when it comes to things like politics. You can rest assured that sooner or later I will pay for my outspoken ways. Politicians have their ways of getting their due. LOL Lets put it this way. I certainly would not go apply for a building permit at this time. <grin> Nor would I want to end up in the town court for a violation.
August 21, 2008 00:34:19 bertimouse   Oh Chester, If you don't give a hoot about this road topic then why are you offering your observations? The folks that work on them everyday sure do care & sweat over them & so do those of us that pay for their current upkeep. I haven't heard of anyone "demanding" to pave a road yet. This is supposed to be a civilized discussion. Pardon me for the capitol lettering of my last message. I've since learned that this means that you are "shouting" via email. Sorry I didn't mean that neighbor. -Besides this message board, what else makes you happy these days in Masonville? I hate to say this & maybe I shouldn't but u r depressing me lately...
August 20, 2008 21:19:02 Good ol' Country Boy Ya bought land on a dirt seasonal ya demand it to be paved.............Bring money.
August 16, 2008 09:48:17 Chester   Actually I do not give a *CENSORED* one way or the other to be honest. He can maintain all the town roads for all I care. I was just observing what I thought would be a problem. As for speaking for or to the town board I would do neither as either one would be a waste of time and breath.
August 15, 2008 22:11:04 bertimouse   Pardon me Chester, but do you Speak/Squeak for the town board or for yourself here? - Why not let the town board speak for themselves if the GOOD DOCTOR (who would like to live here during the winter) chooses to present his own case/options/presentations to the town board for him/her/their selves? Masonville has not had a resident DOCTOR in HOW MANY YEARS? Any MD in MV is a good thing for our future I say Chester. Think of our future, always. If the Local Doctor needs a road; GIVE HIM ONE! Does anyone ELSE GET what I mean here? :)
August 15, 2008 20:58:13 Chester   I certainly am no expert on roads but I do believe that you would not be able to construct, maintain, or repair any road that is already town property. The liability would be totally out of sight. I know you can construct private roads to specs and then have them adopted by the municipality but doing anything to a road that already is municipal property would never be allowed. My understanding is you cannot even plow a public road yourself. The roads in the area marked seasonal limited use are posted that way to relieve the town from liability so imagine the liability of someone actually maintaining or plowing one.
August 15, 2008 18:44:31 bertimouse   Hi Dr. C.J. - For what this is worth; I have a story for you about my brother Bob & his wife Heidi. They built their own cabin on 40 acres up in the hills NE of Spokane, WA along an old logging road. They typically get 3-12 feet of snow which makes his road impassable no matter what you drive...except they have a snowmobile & big snow-shoes which they both use to trek the 3 miles required to get to his pickup truck (yes, 4-wheel drive with a plow attachment)is parked at a neighbor's house. 'Course, they're both young, strong, healthy as horses & love their little "off-the-grid" homestead & farm because of this. In these parts we rarely have that much snow anymore but then again judging from my cucumber crop this summer I'm now predicting lots of snow this winter. LOL was trying to cheer you up, sorry for that prediction, it's just a guess. :) -Looks like you're getting no sympathy on getting the rest of that road paved... how far & wide is the distance that you need? I wonder if the town would let someone pave/improve THEIR OWN ROAD (for a tax credit of course)? :)- There's LOTS of local guys that the town board would know/approve of doing this type of work. Maybe if the costs could be accurately estimated & presented to the town board, maybe they could pay for half with the residents; if they gave a credit for the estimated time the road would hold up? What; 5 years depending on the usage? I'm just spinning off some ideas here... NOTHING is impossible if we all think outside the box sometimes, eh Dr.? Have a great weekend.
August 15, 2008 18:03:02 bertimouse   WOW, guess it's getting more & more popular. You can still watch from the fence line but the view isn't as good. As I recall we bought tickets in Walton beforehand, too. Oh well. Looks like a bigger stand may be needed someday?
August 15, 2008 08:33:36 RT8ER   Fridays Demo Derby is sold out.We tried to get tickets yesterday while we were there.
August 14, 2008 21:58:37 RangerDanger   Dr. Capote, you should invest in a good 4x4 plow truck to get up and down the road during the winter.
August 14, 2008 19:20:24 bertimouse   Hey Tony, The Demolition Derby on Friday night is a MUST SEE! (Bring your earplugs :) ) - To get the best seats; we think right above the announcer - you have to get there by about 4 pm to get on line by 5pm; no later. We love everything about this fair; the animals, the horse shows, the DEC exhibits, the food, the music, the rides; everything! Parking is best inside but you have to have some patience driving home; it will take about 1/2 hour to get out but you don't have to walk so far then. HAVE A GREAT TIME AT THE BEST COUNTY FAIR IN CENTRAL NY!!!
August 13, 2008 12:31:25 Tony CR-20   First time going to the Delaware Fair in about 20 years. Is there anything I should see, checkout or have to try? Can't wait!!! Thanks
August 12, 2008 12:04:47 Tony CR-20   To sum it up...Must have 4 X 4 vehicle!
August 12, 2008 10:22:35 Chester   While it certainly is nice that we have a new neighbor moving onto Shear Rd and he certainly selected a beautiful spot to build a cabin, perhaps he should have considered the pros and cons of selecting that area. -- He should have understood that the area is limited use and is not maintained the year around. It should have been clear to him that he was buying into a very undeveloped area and probably would not ever be very heavily developed. It is too bad that the land owner will be responsible for getting into and out of his site but he cannot expect to move into an area like that and have the taxpayers take the responsibility of making sure he has a smooth and plowed road to travel on. True, most of the roads leading into the state forest areas are not maintained in the winter and become almost impassable in winter and spring. But, the cost of maintaining them year around would be prohibitive.
August 11, 2008 21:41:03 DR. C J Capote MD I Have land located in shear rd. in Masonville,. Shear road is paved to a half way point, Shear rd shall be paved all the way up to where StateLands starts. My property is located right before the state land starts its hard to travek on and in winter months I cant even go up the hill because the DOT doesnt plow up there. I am building a cabin and would like to stay here on the winter months. is there anyways we can pave shear rd up futher, also plow in the winter months up to the State lands ??
August 08, 2008 13:03:57 Tony CR -20   Thank you Chester...the Iron Horse was always of interest to me but I never had the time to pursue it with as much passion as yourself. However...with retirement looming, this can always be something to strive for! Thanks again it's all very interesting stuff - Tony
August 08, 2008 10:37:45 Chester   Tony CR-20 - EMail sent. - Yes I can imagine that it was quite a sight to see. The engines of those days would have been wood burners and the passenger cars would have been constructed of wood. Being Feb there probably was a wood stove burning in the car for heat as well. - Train wrecks on the early railroads were accepted as a normal part of the operation. In fact, the New York and Erie Railroad accepted a death a day among its workers as acceptable. They paid the surviving family $2.00 for the days work the worker would have done. Most of the deaths occured in the marshaling yards where workers were crushed to death coupling cars to make up a train. - I have a contract made between the New York and Erie and a resident of Deposit in which the resident agreed to supply 500 cords of 4 foot wood split and stacked at Gulf Summit for the fantastic sum of 50 cents per cord. These were full cords not the face cords sold today to unsuspecting consumers. While railroads built this country the owners of the lines were not known as philanthrophists by any stretch of the imagination.
August 07, 2008 22:45:15 Tony CR-20 Very interesting article Chester. That must have been some accident / impact when that train barreled into the other at the station. Thanks for sharing the historic event. I would like to visit the grave site described in the article. Do you have its exact location? If so, I would appreciate an email with its whereabouts. Thanks - Tony
August 07, 2008 19:54:18 Chester   There appeared in todays Binghamton Press an article concerning the death of Sa-Sa-Na Loft in a train accident on the New York and Erie Railroad in Deposit on Feb 18, 1852. I have had in my possession for over 50 years a letter written from Deposit on that date describing in detail the accident. As far as I know this is the only eyewitness account of the tragedy. Over the years I have become very interested in the Loft family and have done a lot of research into their lives. If interested the article can be found at It is an interesting though limited article about this young Native American buried at Owego, NY
August 07, 2008 09:56:23 Chester   I attended the Masonville Town Board Meeting last evening (Aug 6). While I was unable to hear or understand a lot of what went on due to a hearing impairment I did note that the cost of doing business in the Town next year is going to be a major issue in preparing a new budget. The time has arrived for all of us to tighten our belts and work to save as much as we can in running the Town. There are things that you and I can do to help maintain costs in Town. The first thing that occurs to me is this: If you change your own oil in your vehicles; donate the used oil to the re-burner furnace at the Town garage. While it may not amount to a lot, every bit helps. Look at things that we expect the Town to do. If it is something that we can do ourselves, lets do it ourselves. i.e. The Town crew mows the cemeteries here (Rte 20 and in the Hamlet) a couple times a summer. Why not a group get together and mow and clean up the cemeteries? Let the Town crew do something else that needs doing. The Town will maintain the new signs coming into the Hamlet. Why not a group get together and keep those signs in repair and cleaned up around them. (Maybe flower boxes? Decorations at holidays? etc.) These things I mention. And many that I have not. Might not amount to much as any one item but put them all together and it will save, at least some money from our taxes and allow the Town to concentrate on things that need doing that we ourselves cannot do. Just a thought.
August 06, 2008 23:18:20 Tony CR-20   Actually RD, I threw the ip address comment out there to make people think before they posted on the board but that is totally out the window now that we hacked it up a bit. Lol...but it's all good. Anyway...I'm pretty new to the board, enjoy all the topics of discussion and can't wait to meet a few more people from the board. Basically I'm a "downstater", as I was labeled in previous posts, for now looking to retire in a few years and making the permanent move up there. Talk to you soon - Tony
August 06, 2008 11:49:41 RangerDanger   That would be a good idea, although all it would do is bring out more tension on the message board. I myself am "anonymous" and according to some of you I should include my name. I choose not to, because it is a matter of choice. I do use the same alias though, so all of my posts can be seen as by the same person.
August 05, 2008 22:31:30 Tony CR-20   Exactly RD...kind of banking on the fact that someone posted something along the threads with their exact name and address and then decided to hide behind an alias! It's all good though...we shouldn't take this stuff so serious anyway and the message board should be utilized as an information tool for the people that are interested in the ongoing development of the town. As I stated before, I enjoy reading the posts of the people of this town and look forward to enjoying more "discussions". All the best - Tony
August 05, 2008 18:28:23 RangerDanger   Tony, they could possibly identify posts through IP but all they could find out with that is if an IP matches another, not who it is exactly.
August 03, 2008 20:04:41 Tony CR-20   George...I believe Grumpy can identify people through the ip address the person leaves behind when posting/visiting this site. Just my two cents. Anyway...beautiful weekend up there. Except for a little rain Saturday morning it was great. Got a lot accomplished. Now back to the grind!
August 03, 2008 08:41:59 George Denys It is my understanding that the Church runs a food pantry. Perhaps Pastor Rob can confirm this for us. I will look into it. As to the farmers market, it has always been held up due to insurance issues. Lawyers always seem to be able to ruin a good thing.
August 02, 2008 21:50:08 bertimouse   Chester; does that mean if I were the preacher or the listener at church? :) Have a great weekend! :)
August 02, 2008 21:44:42 Chester   Bertimouse - I heard a webmaster explain about this auto censoring software. "If you would not use the word in church, don't use it here." LOL
August 02, 2008 21:27:09 bertimouse   P.S. - On July 31st while I was discussing Chester's concerns, my "CENSORED" word was "p.i.s.s.e.d." Sorry about that Grumpy - Maybe you can recommend some language rules, eh? Please let me know what is & not acceptable here. Thanks.
August 02, 2008 21:15:09 bertimouse   So, getting back to Lefty's great idea; Mr. Denys, DOES Masonville have any kind of food pantry? If not, what would we have to do to start something like a farmer's market? I know that allot of folks have been talking about the need for that - why can't we start something up at the Town Shed parking lot on weekends, or after the Town Shed working hours Monday - Friday for a few hours, eh?
August 02, 2008 11:42:35 Chester   Councilman Denys - I am told that the word c.r.a.p. is actually a short version of John Crappers name. John *CENSORED* supposedly invented the toilet. Whether this is true or not I really do not know but it makes a good story. - Along those same lines my favorite author is a fellow named John Jakes (writer of historical novels) and he uses the term "Jakes" for a toilet in one of his novels. He said he is the only guy in the US named twice for a toilet. ("John and Jakes")
August 02, 2008 08:38:17 George Denys That's not a dirty word!!!! c. r. a. p.
August 02, 2008 08:36:07 George Denys People who write on this board without identifying themselves are really doing this Town a disservice. Grumpy, I urge you to change your policy. Healthy discussion is good but this kind of *CENSORED* should go.
August 01, 2008 21:16:30 Chester   Who ever you might be or whereever down here is don't be afraid. Why not come up here to kick my *CENSORED*? People who hide behind a screen with a made up name are really not worth the bother. But, if you like I will give you a lesson in how to be really sarcastic? Let me know. LOL
August 01, 2008 18:39:45 Good ol' Country Boy   Chester, In your opinion, what should the town do? You have made it *CENSORED* clear how you feel about all this. Lets have some of your almighty wisdom. We, the huddled masses await your proclimation. All rise, the almighty Chester is about to impart his holy wisdom. Down here we would just kick your *CENSORED*.
August 01, 2008 10:02:49 Chester   On considering all aspects of the gas drilling situation I am overjoyed that once again big business is going to come to the rescue of the little guy. History is witness to how big business has always been considerate of the little guy. The railroad and coal mine owners in history past witnesses to the benevolance of big business. -- More recently the big oil companies have really jumped right in and shared their meager profits with everyone. -- Of course like all worthwhile ventures there will have to be some sacrifice on the part of the little guy so the rich can get richer. Never mind that the infrastructre of the area will be ripped to shreds. The middle class will pay for that in raised taxes. Never mind that our already fragile aquifier will be *CENSORED* and destroyed, we can drink beer. Never mind that our ecology will be set back to the 1880's mind set. Trees just block the view anyways and all these animals are dangerous. Never mind that the water they pump back out of these wells will contain Lord knows what. We can just let it back into the water supply; that is as long as it is not the NYC water supply. Never mind that the burning off of waste from these wells will pollute the air for miles. And WOW, what a tourist attraction a bunch of rusting gas compressors and storage tanks will be for the area! People will flock in from all over the world to witness them. Oh yes, we must not forget the excitement of a nice gas explosion now and then. Ask the people in North Bleinem about the wonderful effects of that. Of course we can be entertained by the digging up of your property to lay pipe lines across it to get this new found bonanza to the main pipeline so NYC can have more gas. Now me, I can hardly wait for this to start. The few large land owners in this area really deserve the break.
July 31, 2008 23:03:21 bertimouse   Ok, it's WAY past my bedtime, but please let me say 2 things here: 1) The Master Plan Committee invites all outside comments including those from organized groups. There are groups out there organized AGAINST the gas lines; all you have to do is go on-line, find them & if you don't know them already just call them & invite them to speak at the next Master Plan mtg..not too hard a thing to do there. A courtesy is to give any meeting council a "heads up" to let them know a speaker is coming. That way, they can plan their agenda better. It also shows some respect for their planning schedule & ultimately saves time & energy overall. No Managers ANYWHERE in any business like to be "blind-sighted"; it's just not good business practice anywhere dudes. This is why Chester is so *CENSORED* because the Town at our meetings seem to make allot more decisions "closed doors" these days. That issue needs to be discussed more at the Town meetings. Nuff said there. 2)This comment is for Lefty: If we've got a food pantry in Masonville, please let me know where it is. You have struck on a GREAT IDEA! I know several people with over-flowing gardens right now who would JUST LOVE to donate food but don't have the gas to drive more than 10 miles. -Since you've raised this idea why don't you coordinate the Masonville FOOD PANTRY THIS YEAR, EH? Please don't just talk. DO, TOO, you know? And that's all I have to say about this & that.
July 31, 2008 21:30:31 Chester   Lefty- To what and to whom are you referring?
July 31, 2008 20:20:27 Lefty   Ya gots tooooooooooooooooooooooooo much time on yer hands. Do somthin' positive with it will ya!!! How bout' raising food for the food pantry. Feed all them poor people yer talkin' bout.
July 31, 2008 09:42:15 Chester   Bertimouse was musing about a dream. While I know nothing about the psychology of dreams I too have been musing. I guess you could say I have been musing about the "Starilization of Society". After moving some 8 times in my early childhood we finally settled in a little rural area named North Sanford just over the hill from Masonville. We moved into a house we paid $3000.00 for. That tells you how long ago it was. There I spend most of my childhood and all my teen years. In those days everyone knew everyone. In fact I think I could still name 95% of the families who lived from SR 41 in the South to E Afton Road in the North and many on the side roads. Then began the "Starilization of Society". It began with TV and shopping malls. The necessity of two income families further seperated communities and neighborhoods. People no longer congregated nor did they know the people they did business with. Got so no one knew anyone. My father and his wife lived here in Masonville for around 20 years until he died in 1990. I doubt I could find 10 people in Masonville that knew him. My younger brother now lives in the house my father lived in. My brother probably is known by more people than my dad as my brother ran a business. I have lived in Masonville going on 7 years and while I might recognize less than 8 or 10 people by sight in town I have never met even one person of Masonville in that 7 years. We see people every day but we do not know them. Actually it is a sad comment on the erosion of society in this country. Other than a brother who lives next to me I have no idea who any of my neighbors are. The closest neighbor in back of me I have never even seen. If I started at Beech Hill Road and went to the Eastern Border of the Hamlet of Masonville I could not tell you even one person who lives in any house along the way. In fact in all the traveling up and down SR 206 it is rare to see anyone outside their houses. Sad but it is called progress I guess.
July 30, 2008 22:04:18 George Denys Hello Mr.Chester, What happened tonight was indeed unfortunate. The person you refer to is actually Mr. Tom Shepstone ( and is certianly not a "gas company guy". He is our Master Plan consultant.Before you arrived some folks attending had thought this was a gas drilling presentation when, in fact, it was a Town Master Plan meeting. Tom simply said, "Well, I have a presentation on that if you want to do it" So we devoted some time to it as that is what the folks wanted. Tom is simply stating his opinions, opinions that I have high regard for. If you disagree then fine but you really blew up at a person that was doing us a favor by giving an unplaned(but helpful) presentation. We continued with the master plan meeting shortly after you left. I am sorry you didn't stay for it. As I indicated, you have valid points and opinions. I wish I could have explained this to you as you arrived late but, lets face it, I couldn't get a word in with you shouting at him. I do not understand why you felt the need to do that. I apologized to Mr. Shepstone on behalf of the Town.
July 30, 2008 20:30:00 Chester   Why would the town planning board bring a gas company shill into a Master Plan meeting? I never remember being as angry as I became at that meeting tonight. I sat and listened for close to an hour to some guy telling how the rich can become richer. How "his" group reaped all this profit from gas. What has this to do with a master plan for Masonville? All that was discussed was how the already affluent in the area can reap more money. The biggest majority of Masonville Township is struggling to make ends meet and certainly do not fit the description I heard tonight from this guy. I expressed my concern for the fact that this entire fiasco will do nothing except further divide an already devided area and as a result I was laughed at by the planning board. I mean literally laughed at. I do not care how much richer the already rich will be. They will figure out a way to get more anyway. I want to know how this area as a whole will benefit by the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. Tonight is the last time I ever attend a planning board meeting and the last time I ever attempt any input about anything in this town. While I will still defend those who need defending ( and that would not be Mr. Gas Company Shill and his "rich" group). I fear Masonville in their greed is going to be rudely awakened to the truth when this is all said and done. It has become very obvious that the so called Master Planning Board does not want input from anyone but rather strict adherance to whatever it might decide. So be it. Does not mean that any reasoning person has to abide by it.
July 30, 2008 18:10:55 George Denys Mr. Chester, I agree with your post on gas drilling. 100%. How this evolves remains to be seen but I have some inside information from the other side of the fence that will come in handy in the months to come. As with you, I have more to say but will reserve it for the proper time. Someday we will stop fighting over oil and burying our garbage. Until then we shall be ever vigelant.
July 30, 2008 13:04:44 Grumpy Chester, I believe the June Master Plan meeting was on the 25th.
July 30, 2008 12:41:35 Chester   RE: Natural Gas exploration. It was mentioned that the State has leased thousands of acres of State Land for natural gas exploration. Any revenues derived from this leasing will, naturally, go into the State coffers. In what way the revenues will eventually, if ever be shared with the residents of Upstate remains to be seen. If the State is going to benefit from exploration then, of course, the State should stand libal for damage and wear and tear to the infrastructre of the area. -- By the same token this business of mass leasing of private property in the area for exploration should stand the same test. Those who will benefit the most from it should share the most in the cost of maintaining the roads and bridges etc that might suffer as a result of this increased usage. -- This hoped for windfall of natural gas will further erode the middleclass of an area that is aready much polarized. There will become a further separation of the "haves" and the "have nots". I am sure the upper end of the spectrum will really have no interest in paying "their share" and the lower end of the spectrum is already strapped beyound the point where they can take on anymore responsibility. So who, ultimately will have the burden placed on thier shoulders? The middle class of course. Taxpayers who live in the hamlets or outlying areas and have modest to medium incomes and no land to interest the speculators will be the ones who end up paying for the dubious venture. -- What is in it for the municipalities of the area? Probably quite a lot in the form of increased tax revenue etc. But, there is the danger, that in the enthusiasm of getting that revenue the localities will legislate themselves right out of the running. It will have to be approached very carefully and wisely. -- I have more to say on the subject but will reserve for a future date.
July 30, 2008 11:28:49 Chester   Any one remember what the date of the June 2008 "Master Plan" meeting was? Thanks
July 29, 2008 22:52:03 bertimouse   Hi. Chester really got me thinking on who I really am & what I stand up for. I had a strange dream last night about rescuing a big old german shephard dog from a city junkyard near a parking garage; I saw his front paws tied behind his back cruelly with plastic wrap & he was near death. What do you think THAT means, eh? :) In this dream, I made "the people" cut the plastic wrap off the dog while I was cradling his head. It was such a great thing to look into the eyes of this greatful old german shephard dog as he was released of his suffering. The dog jumped up onto me even though his paws were shot. As I thought about WHO CAN NOW TAKE CARE OF THIS DOG BECAUSE I CAN'T, my alarm clock woke me up. DOES ANYONE ELSE HERE DREAM LIKE I DO? I'm an Aquarius.
July 29, 2008 11:23:00 Tony CR-20 are one crazy guy! Like I said, never had a photo of them closed...Thanks!
July 29, 2008 09:40:56 Grumpy You can see Tony's gates in the "Masonville Slide Show" on the [Around Town] page.
July 28, 2008 20:34:50 bertimouse   Heh Heh, Chester. Anyone can join, anyone can leave, anytime, anywhere. Our free choice, anytime still. :)
July 28, 2008 20:22:30 Chester   No offense taken. And until you mentioned it; no, I did not see a "smiley". But then again I am old and blind anyways. It would take a lot more than a note in a forum to hurt my feelings. By the way, you say you are no longer a Democrat? I thought joining the Democrat party was like joining the French Foreign Legion? Once in you can not get out? <GRIN>.
July 28, 2008 18:07:29 bertimouse   Hey Chester, My apologies if I offended you; didn't you see the "smiley" face after my last comment? Not really meant like it sounded...please DON'T EVER CHANGE, we all love you just the way you are & allot of people care as much as you do about our local life, liberty & pursuit of happiness. btw, I'm no longer a Democrat. Have a great summer & again I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings; didn't mean to. :(
July 27, 2008 21:04:29 Tony CR-20   Hey ya been? As meeting you, I'm sure meeting George will be a pleasure too. Chester...It's actually the 4th on the right (red brick and black iron gates) there are a couple tucked in the woods before me. Funny you mention the cemetery, last week I actually stopped and took a look at the graves from the road. Looks like a lot of Indian names in there. Very interesting. BTW...if the gates are open, stop by and say hello! As for your "rantings", god bless people like yourself. It keeps everyone on their toes! Lol
July 27, 2008 18:54:55 Chester   Tony CR-20 I like the cemetery on CR-20. I do a lot of research in many of the cemeteries around the area. Scoping out a place to bury me when they decide to hang me. LOL LOL Actually all the cemeteries right around me are old and very intesting.
July 27, 2008 18:30:40 Chester   Tony CR-20 - Thank you for reading my rantings. I will admit I do get a tad carried away when I am passionate with an issue. But, unfortunately, there is really no point in beating a dead horse. You will find the one thing different in upstate rural NY than it is downstate when it comes to politics. When the powers-that-be (whoever they may be) have made up their minds to change (or not to change) something, nothing will prevent it. Not even the ravings of a crazy man like me. LOL Unfortunately there are not enough people who care one way or the other what anyone does as long as it is not in their backyards. PS I think I know where you live. The second house after the cemetery on CR-20 ?
July 27, 2008 17:57:46 Grumpy Tony, you will enjoy meeting George! He and I have been friends for some time and share many interests, including pistol marksmanship. A pilot, he's responsible for me getting that nice aerial shot of Masonville on the [Around Town] page.
July 27, 2008 16:15:51 Tony CR-20   Thank you will be very nice to meet you. Looking forward to it.
July 27, 2008 16:07:07 George Denys Hello Tony, Your place is looking good from the road, I'll have to get by and say hi one of these days. George
July 27, 2008 13:52:09 Tony CR-20   Hey Chester, please don't apologize for the discussions that have been taken place on this forum. As you stated, its an open forum and to tell you the truth I look forward every day to check in and read the posts between yourself, Mr. Denys and Mr. DuMond. It keeps us "downstaters" informed and to tell you the truth, its all very interesting discussion. All the best - Tony
July 27, 2008 06:01:55 Kathy K Thank you, Mr. Denys, for letting us know about the Master Plan meeting July 30th, 7 p.m. at the Church. I will be there. Thanks to everyone for your responses!
July 25, 2008 23:20:13 Chester   PS Councilman Denys (There I spelled your name right this time. Sorry as I am all thumbs.) I also agree with you on another point. Your point about this forum being a little lighter in content. Perhaps it is time to take my concerns out of this forum and into a more public forum. I have definately tied up this forum waaaaay more than I should have. I apologize to all.
July 25, 2008 23:08:30 Chester   Councilman Dnys- Your comment about "positive" input from the observers interests me. For instance what? And was the person doing the inputting actually an observer or someone that already agreed with everything that was being discussed? Opposition to what has already been decided in that sort of setting is rarely allowed or acted on. So, I find it an interesting statement.
July 25, 2008 22:59:10 George Denys I have always said, at every Master Plan meeting, that anyone attending may contribute or "Chime in" at any time as long as it is kept civil. They do and some positive things have come out of it. No, I am not perfect, only God is perfect. I am only Gods student. Sometimes I get an A and sometimes I get a D. maybe even an F from time to time. Thats life. I wish this message board could have more positive matter in it. Masonville has so much good too!! It is in our nature, I guess, to focus on the bad instead of the good. I am guilty of it from time to time. Thats a shame. George
July 25, 2008 22:23:27 Chester   Bertimouse - Shutting up is not in my make-up when I see a wrong taking place. It is not your place to tell me to shut up even if I were wrong. As long as the owner of this site allows free discussion then it is open to all who would take part. I am quite aware of the land owners decision to lease or not to lease but many muncipalities are legislating to the point that the gas exploration will not take place due to restrictive regulations.- I am glad you are blessed by the town board. For the most part I would say they do a fine job but, they too can be wrong. (Believe it or not). I have not seen them part the sea nor walk on water yet. As soon as that happens I will consider them perfect as well. - What would be the point of attending any sort of "Master Plan" meeting to "observe"? The minutes of said meeting, by law, are available to read. NYS Open Meeting Law indicates they, the minutes, must be available to the public, appoved or not, within 2 weeks of the meeting. Plus, if I have liabled or slandered the Town Board in any fashion they are welcome to bring a law suit against me at their pleasure. Although I will say they would look rather foolish doing so, as I do have a right to disagree with decisions they make. I re-iterate; The Town Board meetings I have attended I have never seen any opposition to anything the Supervisor said. This indicates either a rubber stamp board or everything is pre-arranged. Neither of these is an option. You continually bring up the fact you are a Democrat. Wonderful. I am not a Democrat. And I fail to see what that has to do with anything to begin with.
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