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October 10, 2011 11:25:35 Les   Agreed Observer, our politicians do not seem capable of fixing our economy. We have had three years of 'change' and the unemployment rate has went up. I do like republican candidate Herman Cain so far. He says he can fix the economy "It's not rocket science", he should know,he was a rocket scientist for the Navy, and a mathematician, grew up dirt poor and now is a successful businessman. Bringing more than one company from bankruptcy to profitability.
October 10, 2011 11:15:45 Les   I agree, Part-Timer. I don't know how much business the ice cream place would get, but it would be a great stop for hunters for lunch or coffee, and don't forget about the snowmobilers!
October 10, 2011 10:35:42 Observer   It is said that if one put 10,000 monkeys in a room with 10,000 typewriters they would eventually come up with the Great American Novel. Why not try that with congress? We could send 10,000 monkeys to Washington and maybe they would come up with a solution to our problems. Obviously the idiots we have there now are not able too.
October 10, 2011 10:33:26 Observer   Ice cream place closing! The official sign that winter is on its way!! (SIGH)
October 10, 2011 10:32:25 Part-Timer   Why dont they stay open thru hunting season,with coffe,donuts,sandwiches,breakfast,lunch for the hunters,etc,etc.
October 10, 2011 10:27:42 Part-Timer   Is there anything good to buy @ the General Store,whats in there anyway?
October 10, 2011 09:03:55 wondering   Is there anyone new running for a position on the Masonville town board or are we all set for this year?
October 10, 2011 00:54:04 Phil   Just out of curiosity, for what is Laurie Burpoe paid nearly 1000 dollars for every month?
October 09, 2011 18:24:05 Observer   After church today my wife and traveled down to Starlight PA (where my mother was born right after turn of the century 1901) We had lunch at the Inn at Starlight Lake. Across the lake is still located the house one of my aunts owned up until about 1947. She owned the lake at the time. Several people were out on the lake sailing and we were watching them from the dining area. The hills around the lake have reached their fall color peak. Very beautiful place really. Coming back we traveled through North Sanford and onto Delaware County Route 20 and I stopped at the top of Beach Hill and took some pictures out through the valley. The sun was hitting just right to make the colors stand out. But, I fear this is the last of what color we will have around here this year. I never cease to marvel at the precise and delicate way our Almighty God has put His creation together. I travel Route 8 between here and Mount Upton each day of the week and I note how healing has already began in the areas ravished by the recent winds and flooding. Once again something to marvel at when we think how God directs his creation.
October 09, 2011 17:58:55 Observer   Here I am with a dozen cameras and videos and one day I am going to be in the right place at the right time and get a picture of the "evil Masonville bear".
October 09, 2011 17:25:53 crzyflea   Saw a bear over in the Adkins Marsh area Thursday for those who are on bear watch. Not really all that far afield for it to be the "wicked shear bear" or one of its relatives. He or she is looking fat and happy and ready for the winter nap.
October 08, 2011 23:28:43 what?   Dear O; I look foward to reading your posts. So please don't stop. Your posts October 05, 2011 12:03:24, and October 08, 2011 14:55:08, where spot on, Thanks!
October 08, 2011 22:06:02 bertimouse   Dear O: After a Hard Day's work wherever we are M-S we are definitely NOT into responding to your Long Debates. Sorry but we Don't Bite. Go Fish with some other Folks willing to waste their time, eh? Neighbor: PEACE. All will be Well, Always. :)
October 08, 2011 14:55:08 Observer   I would like to recommend a couple of books to you readers. Number one is a book entitled "Bonhoeffer Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy." By Eric Metaxas. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a German Lutheran pastor who lived during the Nazi regime in Germany. Bonhoeffer was a scholar and theologian. He broke away from the "official" church of Nazi Germany and formed a Church opposed to Hitler. He was involved in plots to get rid of Hitler including the July 20 Plot for which he was arrested and sent to a concentration camp and later brutally hanged for his part in the plot. The second book I would like to recommend is entitled " Understanding the Arab World" by Louis Bahjat Hamada. Mr. Hamada is from Lebanon and is a converted Muslim. He came from one of the ruling families of Lebanon. Mr. Hamada is now a Christian but maintains close ties with his country and the Arab world through mission work. In his book he traces the roots of the Arab nations through God's Word and attempts to dispel some preconceived notions Westerners have about the Arabs. One interesting thing he points out is the need for USA to get back to what it is best at. Acting as a peace maker and not taking sides and also its history of delivering the Gospel.
October 08, 2011 10:15:16 Observer   Bertimouse - I guess you must be seeing something I am not seeing. How does my discussions on this board stop anyone from discussing whatever they want? You mention several people "tried" to change the subject. Well, what was stopping anyone, who so desired, from taking part in their subject? I noted several people who asked questions but seems no one had the answer for them. Hunting etc. was mentioned and apparently no one was interested, at the time, in discussing that subject. You say I am such a bully. How is my discussing anything on this board making me a bully? Am I forcing anyone to read my posts? Am I forcing anyone to join the discussion? If you wish to get personal I will say your posts, for the most part, are almost unreadable. You seem to spend most of your posts on "sucking up" to the local board officials and mentioning ridiculous ideas that no one appears to be the slightest interested in. Your posts do not bother me and I do not care what you post. If you have those reading your posts and joining you in your discussion that is great and that is what this board is about. So, I would request the same courtesy from you. Obviously you do not like the subjects I post so, as I said do not read them. My free speech has reached a screech? I am not sure what that means but I will say I hope everyone's free speech is never silenced. In closing Bertimouse I will say you are NOT the moderator of this forum nor do you select the subjects to be discussed nor who will do the discussing. With that thought in mind just ignore the posts you do not want to read and join in the discussion of those posts you do want to read.
October 07, 2011 23:11:58 bertimouse   We would like to say here that although we don't post much anymore because TG we have demanding Jobs that we both Love, unfortunately it brings us both across 9 different counties with allot of driving time and allot of time spent apart away from our beloved Home Here. Between us we've seen the Worst of every Flood Everywhere since Sept. 10th. this Year. Excuse Us if sometimes we think the posts here are Pretty much Petty. The TOM dodged this Bullet by only about 10 miles do YALL know that? Someone in MV should try to organize something to help out the poor Folks either in Schoharie or Broome County - our Neighbors Now before the winter. You Know; just a thought here for someone not doing anything right now that er, has some Spare Time?
October 07, 2011 22:04:02 bertimouse   One More Question to any TOM Board Member or Craig: -About the Special Needs Transportation Mandate by NYS Government: We understand that you opposed it for good reasons here. Our question is: Out of the 19 Towns in Delaware County, How Many Supervisors in which Towns Opposed you? We Approve what you do for us but wonder what the issues are for other Towns?
October 07, 2011 21:56:51 bertimouse   Dear Craig or Any Of the TOM Board Members: We have 2 questions here & a few comments that we respectfully ask for your response here if you will: 1)Questions: A-Local Law #1 which was voted on last month-the Public Nuisance Law? - can you give us a Summary about it? Thanks. B-Local Law #2 also voted on last month-Appointed Officer Residency;brief summary? Thanks again.
October 07, 2011 21:49:59 bertimouse   Hi What. We L(Heart)TOM for all they do & all our Neighbors in MV wherever they are. You have good comments Neighbor. It's nice to hear that someone else appreciates the Hwy. Dept. eh? We went & read the whole Sept. post by the TOM board mtg. too bad only 7 Public Folks showed up but so glad that they post it here. CUDO'S to the TOM SECY for her most excellent spelling & very timely posting nowadays. You deserve a Raise & we would Vote for that for you. Thanks for all you've done & your most excellent improvement, eh? :)
October 07, 2011 21:15:15 bertimouse   Dear O: Yall are sounding like Such a Bully! Why can't yall tone it down some, eh? Do ya notice how several other Folks have er tried to change the subject here? Why do yall feel the need to Harp on such stuff that clearly not many other Folks want to comment about? -Just saying Neighbor that your Free Speech is Screech at the moment...give it a rest for these Beautiful Days. :)
October 07, 2011 20:09:48 what?   Just read Sept. minutes, FLOORTIME: 2. Would like to thank our Supervisor Dumond and all Highway Dept. employees for their work on our Town Hall. Thanks guys for saving the town some money!
October 07, 2011 17:47:05 Observer   "Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region" John Adams 2nd President of the USA. ---- "And as it is our duty to extend our wishes to the happiness of the great family of man, I conceive that we cannot better express ourselves than by humbly supplicating the Supreme Ruler of the world that the rod of tyrants may be broken to pieces, and the oppressed made free again; that wars may cease in all the earth, and that the confusions that are and have been among nations may be overruled by promoting and speedily bringing on that holy and happy period when the kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ may be everywhere established, and all people everywhere willingly bow to the sceptre of Him who is Prince of Peace." Samuel Adams ---- "Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ." James Madison
October 07, 2011 10:48:57 Observer   Bertimouse there is a feature incorporated into this forum. It is called "don't read the post". Try it. It works great!! In the meantime and until the owner of this site brings it to a halt I will discuss anything I so desire with anyone I so desire. P.S. NUFF SAID!!
October 06, 2011 23:27:57 bertimouse   p.s. NUFF SAID!
October 06, 2011 23:26:09 bertimouse   Enough here to C & O with Your Religious mews mixed with Political Diatribes Back & Forth to only you both! Get A Room Already If You Want to debate between yourselves about Your Own Views Already! UGH ENOUGH HERE WE SAY! 225 WORD LIMIT REMEMBER? STOP, PLEASE! THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR KIND FUTURE CONSIDERATION TO ALL OF YOUR MESSAGE BOARD NEIGHBORS. There are so many more fun & interesting things to talk about here, eh?
October 06, 2011 19:35:46 town resident   Did anyone spend some time outside today and enjoy the beautiful weather?
October 06, 2011 16:08:38 Part -Timer   All this guys have gone crazy about religion,remember religion was made up by man to control man.wake up people ,stop such a nonsense. Lets talk about the weather,hunting,snow,any thing.get out of it. Hey any news about the Evil Bear lately?
October 06, 2011 08:48:07 Masonville Resident   Anyone new running for town board or other positions this year? Seems like the current board is doing a great job. Missed the meeting last night, anything exciting going on?
October 05, 2011 23:55:46 what   Some quotes from our Founding Fathers;In his speech on May 12, 1779, George Washington claimed that what children needed to learn “above all” was the “religion of Jesus Christ,” and that to learn this would make them “greater and happier than they already are.”- George Washington, speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs, May 12, 1779. “It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.”“Congress passed this resolution: “The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.” - United States Congress 1782“By Law the United States Congress adds to US coinage:” “In God We Trust”- United States Congress 1864“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams Education is useless without the Bible. The Bible was America’s basic text book in all fields. God’s Word, contained in the Bible, has furnished all necessary rules to direct our conduct. - Noah Webster“This nation under God” - Abraham Lincoln, Gettysberg Address and inscribed on Lincoln Memorial United States Supreme Court “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of The Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian…This is a Christian nation” - United States Supreme Court Decision in Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 1892
October 05, 2011 23:42:03 what?   @crzyflea; I have read all your posts and find them educational. I just think you should stay with the positive and stop with the negative. Every time you post there is a good and a bad.And the bad you portray is still religion. As a deist you say you believe in a divine spirit but not in organized religion or the history behind it? What? do you consider organized,a bunch of people who get together and go to church? Deists are as hypocritical as it gets, yet you are more than welcome here ,that is the great thing about America, freedom of religion ,not freedom from religion.
October 05, 2011 20:27:51 Observer   It is a sad commentary on the age we now live in when one forms a dislike for a person based on his or her beliefs. If one is not a social and political and religious liberal in America today that person has no rights of opinion or standing in the eyes of those who are liberal in belief. As a self professed Christian conservative I supposedly have no right to comment on our government or moral standards. I must sit quietly in my church and stay out of the social and political arena. I, as a Christian, am not supposed to have an opinion. Especially on such issues as abortion or corrupt politics. And for heavens sake never, never, never attempt to share my spirituality with anyone as it will offend them. I must be satisfied to accept the ridicule of those more "liberated" and "progressive" than I. For after all I am just a buffoon following a mystical character from a fictional book.
October 05, 2011 19:15:44 crzyflea   Observer - I am sorry if you saw my attempts at debate as personal attacks. That was not intended. I don't see you in Washington greasing palms, or bombing abortion clinics in the name of your god. There are people who do. It is those things that people do and then say they did it in the name of their religion that make any religion look bad. Deists have faith in a divine spirit, humanists do not; I am a Deist so please quit labeling me wrongly. Don't belittle my belief because I've affronted yours by pointing out where people who are NOT you have used something you share in common for things that you yourself might not even condone. I also did not say -all-, I said most which is a heavier leaning of some than a few but not quite a middle ground of it. I am sorry too that you think I consider you stupid. I do not. I lament that the youth today do not have as solid of an education as we could hope. And in that I fear for our future because they will be easily manipulated by the mechanisms I've described in previous posts. If nothing else, I hope that from our bickering here perhaps some young person comes along, reads it and decides to dig deeper, so that they find their own perfect personal truth - and that it enriches their life, as mine does mine, and yours does you. And that perhaps, just maybe they leave their quest to understand both sides with a little more knowledge, and perhaps are informed when it comes time to vote in elections down the road.
October 05, 2011 18:31:03 Observer   Oh the wonderful life of the humanist. We are here by accident and intended to fill out the food chain and produce the next generation.
October 05, 2011 18:05:03 Observer   Crazyflea _ Ok I will call a truce. I admit I am stupid and a threat to all the world due to my belief in Christ. I give you this world. You non-believers have done a wonderful job so far in advancing it. So, let's leave it that way. I am happy with my situation and obviously while it may annoy you that I am; I plan on continuing. P.S. You might reread our founding fathers. SOME were deists NOT all.
October 05, 2011 17:01:00 crzyflea   Observer you are not seeing what I am saying. I do not say I am not a believer in a religion. I am, I do not consider myself however a Christian, I will however defend your right to be one, just as I will defend anyone's right to be a Muslim or a Jew, to follow Native religions, be a Satanist, or even be an atheist. However - I will not be persuaded to be misinformed, or roll over when I see -any- religion pushing is agendas in the political arena. It just so happens that currently it is certain sects of christian origin. They could move some of these same agendas without using their religion as the whip to drive it, and then I would have no cause to be alarmed. There-in lays the difference! Would you be so offended if someone were saying that muslims were trying to reform the nation? Most aren't bothered by that being brunted about and many who aren't obama supporters will rally around the president's religious ideology as a cornerstone of their denounciations and mudslinging (and it doesn't matter if I or you support obama or not, its mudslinging that goes on there). The language used in the declaration and the constitution is of Deist origin. The constitution never mentions god, the declaration only once, in deist terminology. There is no mention of Jesus, Moses or the Bible beyond -that- one call upon the God of Nature. The term "God of Nature" is open to any path. It could mean the christian god, it could mean the native peoples spirits of nature, it could even Gaea for those who want to view the divine as a feminine. A quick search on google will show you multitudes of information that confirms that the majority of the founding fathers were not christians, but rather deists. The wording is "God of Nature" not Christian god, or Jehovah or Allah because it is more encompassing to all religions. In God we trust was not added to our money until in coin until the late 1800s and to paper money until the mid 1900s. God was not mentioned in the pledge of allegiance until 1954. As it does not name a particular sect of any religion these mottos on money or in the pledge are in essence neutral. In early america to have any societal influence you had to be a member of the dominant church. For many founding fathers this was the only brush with christianity they actually had. For sociological-political gain! Read some letters from various of our founding fathers to one another, read the treaty of tripoli. You'll see it in plain words. Words that were written during Washington's Presidency and signed to under Adams. Prayer in the opening of congress - is traditional but is NON denominational. This is based again in history. The first legislative action taken by the continental congress was a motion to open this first session in prayer. The motion was opposed. Not however because of separation of church and state, but because there were people of many different churches present. Eventually a prayer was done even then, after discussion - because our founding fathers were open minded enough to accept that one man's truth does not negate or invalidate another's nor impinge upon his own simply by being witness to its rites, acts, or embrace. That original prayer was indeed coached in very christian terms but the intent was not to establish christianity as the official religion of the nation. Else why go on to in the first amendment to outline no spiritual precedence to any particular faith. That prayer in congress continues to be neutral in that it is given by different denominations at times. Granted, there is a chaplin elect and typically a christian sect, but there are guests who may be doctors, rabbis, laymen etc etc. The terminology is generally well thought out and inoffensive to anyone with a spiritual heart. Jefferson felt so strongly that the bible was not divinely inspired, in fact that it was so violent and degrading of the image of god that he went through it and removed parts, creating what is known now as the Jefferson Bible. My personal experiences with christianity are that it requires blind faith for it is truth, with Judaism that it promotes questioning of faith in order to find truth. Of the two, which of the two embrace free will more? To me, the answer is Judaism. So too, there are more similarities to Deism in Judaism. Thus, I like our founding fathers am a Deist. And to end with something of humor. If not for cheeseburgers and pork rinds I'd be a Jew.
October 05, 2011 16:39:32 TX-1   Why cant we all get alone with each other,HEY at the end we will all die,think for a moment.
October 05, 2011 15:18:11 Observer   crzyflea - Then we are to assume that all the references to Deity by our founding fathers is either just a figment of our imagination or were planted there by "religionists" in some nefarious plot? I am not going to waste space in listing references to deity by George Washington alone; let alone many other founding fathers. (You can Google that yourself). I would gather from your posting that persons (such as myself) who have a love of the Lord are then the reason for all the problems we see in society today? According to your reading of history our country was intended to be neutral in its approach to religion. Why then would we include "In God We Trust" on our coinage? Why would our very Declaration of Independence call upon God? Why do we start sessions of Congress with what passes for prayer? Why is God referred to in many many speeches and writing coming out of our government? Yes, the Bill of Rights declare the federal government will establish NO church or religion. It does NOT say that all of us who have a church or a spiritual belief are second class citizens with no say in the government. You have your right NOT to believe. That is your right. You have the right to expound on that belief. But, a Christian does not have the same rights? Myself as a Born again Christian must be silent and not speak of it? Why this difference? To say ones religion is a private thing is hogwash. There has been more words written and spoken about religion than any other subject in history. Hardly a private thing. While those with humanist tendencies (such as yourself) have preached their form of religion since the beginning of time and made every attempt to eradicate what you call religion it has not worked. In Israel one can be arrested and put in jail for witnessing Jesus Christ; still many Jews are accepting their messiah. In many Muslim countries one can be put to death for witnessing Christ but yet within those countries Christianity is growing. Now within this country many humanists such as yourself would institute laws preventing Christians from witnessing Christ. It is being done little by little by removing God and Christ from everything including this forum it would seem. Yes, I am certain I am probably in the very small minority in this community who profess following Jesus Christ it does not mean I am a second class citizen or ignorant fool. I am not going to go into education but to say my education both secular and religious goes far beyond the high school level. You mention in your post that anyone who believes as I do does not read or understand history. Well, in this case you are very very incorrect. In 1935 the Nazi's instituted the Nuremberg Laws in the Third Reich preventing Jews from citizenship and the right to take part in government. Is that what you are aiming for with Christians?
October 05, 2011 13:52:05 crzyflea   I'm sorry that people misunderstood what I was saying. I've no issue with Spiritual religion. What I do have issue with is Corrupted religion, with those that hide behind the letter of, and not the spirit of, their path and use it as both shield when stood up to, and sword when they see a place to attack from. Religion and religion in politics is always a hotbed of discussion. You can see it at work even within our own government through the ages, and especially now with the number of religious reformist activists with backing or power and their aims at changing the public view of the US and founding fathers to having this be considered a Christian nation founded with a biblical intent. It is anything but that when you look to the intent of the founding fathers and at historical documents that expressly state that the notion is contrary to the founding principles. The nation is entirely designed to be religiously neutral. It was far too evident to the founders of the nation, (and should be evident to us just from reading the posts prior to this!) that religion where opinions vary is a sure way to start an argument. The revisionist movement's had some success, which is what springboards so many of the outcries and upset that come whenever a branch of government puts into law that is not in line with biblical beliefs, or the Supreme Court hands down a judgement that prevents intrusion of church into state you'll see rabid discussion and protest that they're going against the intents of the founding fathers. Sadly, its the farthest thing from the truth but few are aware of it now because not many are deeply enough versed in historical knowledge. A lack of in depth knowledge and understanding of our own history be it social, political or ideological has in a very real sense left the barn door open for the nation to become what it is today. Sadder yet is that if, as some believe, this nation is in its twilight, that history will look back and see the current trend as a bullet-point in a list of self inflicted injuries that precipitated the fall. We can only hope that this trend isn't a lasting one, but a passing one that becomes instead a footnote in the history of a standing nation rather than a bullet point for a fallen one.
October 05, 2011 12:11:02 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Resident: "Anything happy going on in Masonville today?" Yes, the Town Council Meeting! See you there?
October 05, 2011 12:03:24 Observer   Of course the Qu'ran and the Torah have great similarities which apply also to the Christian Old Testament. Both the Arabs and the Jews come from the same stock, Abraham. The Arabs through Ishmael son of Hagar, the handmaiden of Sarah, fathered by Abraham. While the Jews through Abraham and Sarah by way of Isaac. God promised Hagar in the wilderness that He would make a great nation of Ishmael, the Arab nations. He did as well as making a great nation of Isaac, the chosen people the Jews. Of course the gentiles were brought into the flock by the atoning death of Jesus Christ on the Cross. Essentially the Qu'ran and the Torah (first five books of the Christian Old Testament) say pretty much the same thing. It was not until the 6th century (about 535 A.D. that Mohammand came about and wrote the Qu'ran in arabaic and the great movement of the Muslims began.) While the failure of the Jews to recognize thier messiah when he arrived on the scene God closed their eyes to the truth and opened the gates to the Gentile nations. While all Arabs are not Muslim nor are all Muslims Arab the growth of Islam is the greatest in the fertile crescent of the Middle East. Salvation is open to the Arab and the Jew as well as the Gentile through the atoning blood of Christ. The Muslim recognize Jews and Christians as "people of the Book". They also recognize Jesus as being born of a virgin and a great prophet of Allah (God) but do not accept his Sonship.
October 05, 2011 11:17:32 what?   @crzyflea; I understand what your saying and somewhat agree.And your joke was a little humorous. I just took a little offense to your choice of words and what you wrote October 03. It seems religion is always on the defense from people attacking those who choose to believe,whatever the religion.This isn't what America is about, it's about freedom of religion not from religion. And yes we all have the right to our opinion whatever it may be.
October 05, 2011 11:10:04 TX-1   WOW!! this place had not been this hot since the ragheads training camps,on State Land by Shears, WOW!!
October 05, 2011 11:05:11 resident   anything happy going on in Masonville today?
October 05, 2011 11:02:00 Don't Hate   What? I was taking my cue from the ridicule and the obvious hatred expressed by yourself and crzyflea when anything of a religious nature was mentioned. Sorry if I was wrong about you.
October 05, 2011 10:52:02 what?   Don't Hate; NO I am NOT part of the American Nazi party.The American Nazi party, (they endorsed Obama) are the exact opposite of my very conservative political views.What? have I written would even give you the faintest idea that I believe in socialism?
October 05, 2011 10:00:53 Don't Hate   Just wondered, as ridicule is frequently used by the ANP against those they might not agree with. I noted you both were using ridicule against a person who expressed a spiritual idea of sin being the root of the problems of the world. But, I am sure that person is used to being ridiculed and relegated to a fool if he dares have an idea or thought contrary to the accepted in this country.
October 05, 2011 05:09:15 crzyflea   @don't hate - absolutely not, I am a Deist, much like many of our country's founding fathers. However that was a very nice knee jerk reaction to try to start fires though. One of the things I love (sarcasm) about this guestbook/message board is the way people like to sling trigger words around. ................................... @what? - I think you misunderstand my assertion. I don't blame religion in and of itself. Spiritually embraced, without any other influences religion of -any- sort is just fine. But all too often religion is abused by those who crave power. Power and humility do not mix. They do not make good bedfellows. Too often religion is used as a goad that leads to travesty. I feel that its the fanatical, those who will twist and turn their religion, whatever it may be to suit their agendas and use it as a springboard for atrocities to be the source of that corruption and thus turn religion from something that is good to a root of evil. People pick and choose what parts they think are right, or more right, and that is fine until they do one of two things: force it on others or mix it with politics. The problems only arise when they try to impose their particular beliefs on others who do not share their subset of view. For example, the Catholic and Protestant issues in Ireland. Politics plays its hand but religion does as well one acting as fuel the other as vehicle. So too there is the dividing line within Islam between fanatics (who typically make up the terrorist cells like Al Quada) and the general Muslim community which adheres to a more fundamental view of the Koran which is quite peaceful. Israel and Palastine - is not religion the fuel that is thrown on the flames to keep that ablaze? Stepping back though, and looking at the religious teachings themselves the Koran and the Torah have a remarkable set of similarities when studied with an open mind. Oddly enough Christianity is 'odd man out' more often than not of the three facets of that particular religious set when it comes to daily life mores. You can take non fanatics from any of them and get together and have a decent, civil discussion until you have a fanatic thrown in. Fanatics are blind to any potential 'other' truths than those spoon fed to them by someone with an agenda other than the common morality and ethics that all of mankind can find pious no matter the religious trappings placed upon it to teach it. They are also the ones who fall victim to those who crave power. As soon as politics mix with religion you have the makings of a dictatorship or a cult which will use religion as a tool to whip the population into a shape or form or even a frenzy. They will push themselves forward as a religious leader, as a prophet, as 'god touched' if it will help them to sway fanatics of whichever path who they then turn into tools and weapons. "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion" - Steven Weinberg Furthermore, Frederick Douglass asserted that a religious slaveholder is a worse master than one who is not overly pious. As the religious man could view himself as having a god given right to punish the sons of Ham. "I love the pure, peaceable, and impartial Christianity of Christ; I therefore hate the corrupt, slave-holding, women-whipping, cradle-plundering, partial and hypocritical Christianity of this land." Frederick Douglass. Suicide bombings are political acts performed by religiously devout fanatics. "Such evil deeds could religion prompt." Lucretius........................... Summation: religion is a two sided coin. Spiritual religion is good, no matter what face it takes. However in this day and age religion too often is colored by politics and when it is, I firmly stand by the idea that it can be a taproot of evil by the sheer fact that it has been corrupted by something outside of itself.
October 05, 2011 00:22:45 what?   crzyflea; I guess you didn't get my point. I completely disagree with you. You wrote "the root of all evil is religion"," mythical omniscient person(s).""dogma".,,,,I wrote "Who are we to judge or criticize other religions.Religious freedom is a basic human right that can't be taken away by anyone regardless of what the faith is." And it can't be taken away by those who choose not to believe.,,,,"If one's mind is full of hatred, anger, and jealousy then it is a torture to oneself as well as brings destruction to the society,Morality or religion helps in reducing corruption cases and where there is no morality, there are more corruption cases," said the Dalai Lama.
October 05, 2011 00:05:17 what?   what?
October 04, 2011 18:30:25 don't hate   What and crazyflea are you members of the American Nazi party?
October 04, 2011 08:32:44 crzyflea   what? that is entirely my point. Sadly people use the trappings of religion to judge one another. Puts me in mind of a joke I heard once upon a time. It went something along the lines of: "A Jew, a Muslim, a Pagan and a Christian all die and meet St Peter at the Pearly Gates. St.P takes the Christian in hand first and winks at the other three. Leads the Christian through and down a hall, to a room, opens the door and sends him in, bidding him welcome to heaven. He then returns and asks the other three to join him to walk down the same hall. Bids them to ask any questions they might have and they talk for a good while. One of the three asks 'why so many different doors?' to which St.P replies. 'there is a different heaven for each religion.' They walk a bit further and St. P puts a finger to his lips 'shhh, we're passing the Christian door' All draw quiet as they slip by it. After a few more moments one of the three asks. 'why did you quiet us when we passed that door?' St. P replies with a smile. "they think they're the only ones who get here so we wouldn't want to dissuade them of that idea would we?"
October 04, 2011 01:00:33 what?   crzyflea;"I wonder how many religions, denominations and sects claim to know the only way to God, and promise that all who follow their rules will be among the chosen few who will share the glory of heaven for eternity? It seems that the number of such exclusive faith groups has grown with the passage of time, but thankfully there has also been an increase in the number of people who recognize that a God of love who created all of us would not be so selective."Emily VanLaeys,,,Who are we to judge or criticize other religions.Religious freedom is a basic human right that can't be taken away by anyone regardless of what the faith is.,,,"This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness." Dalai Lama
October 03, 2011 21:34:36 voter   any thing interesting going on in the local elections for Masonville next month?
October 03, 2011 21:24:11 crzyflea   yeah I'll keep myself away from those apples. they're difficult to resist though if you believe in mythical omniscient person(s). More wars and more deaths can be attributed to -one- religion simply because the followers of that religion can't agree to disagree about the 'right' way to worship. You wanna talk about a root to all evil? I'll point at organized religion every time. Doesn't matter which one. Just as soon as someone starts to push -any- dogma on others it rots the fruit on the vine.
October 03, 2011 15:05:55 Observer   Granted drugs or alcohol or any other is not the cause of societies problems. Sin is the cause of societies problems. It is now and has been since the fall in the Garden of Eden.
October 03, 2011 07:53:11 cjr   any big deer or bear sightings on shears rd yet ????
October 03, 2011 00:20:39 what?   " Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." -P. J. O'Rourke "When journeying down the long dark road, we must continue on and never give up faith we'll one day reach our destination - no matter how ugly that road appears before the naked eye." -Reed Murphy
October 02, 2011 19:55:38 another resident   You were not asked nor told to leave Masonville, we just like to have our residents happy to live here, and if you are not happy why spend your life here when you could be having a more pleasant life elsewhere ?
October 02, 2011 18:59:48 Observer   You are now on a list of people who have invited me to move on. LOL Like the man being ridden out of town on a rail said, "If it were not the honor of the thing I would be upset." I am probably one of the few ever asked or told to leave Masonville. LOL
October 02, 2011 18:48:49 hometown person   If we are that unfriendly maybe you should find a more pleasant hometown to call home and you could enjoy the rest of your life in an enjoyable manner.
October 02, 2011 16:54:38 Observer   Interesting that you mention minding ones own business.Seems to be a favorite statement on this forum. I recall a number of years ago I was concerned about the a very large amount of trash and garbage someone had dumped on Steam Mill Rd. I was told at that time to tend to my own business. (Technically it was my business as it was on state owned land and I am a taxpayer) Another time not long ago I mentioned maybe it would be of benefit to the community if an organization were allowed to use the back roads for a road rally. Once again I was told to tend to my own business. Then I mentioned how it would be nice if maybe someone in the town would gather some information on the history of the churches that had been in the town and once again I was told to tend to my own business. As I have stated prior on this forum that the Masonville area is a beautiful area but as I also stated it is, perhaps, the most self-centered, unfriendly area I have ever been in during the past 70 some years.
October 02, 2011 15:07:26 someone who did care   If people worried about their own business and not be running someone down all the time
October 02, 2011 09:06:34 town resisdent   sarcastic remarks are not necessary, we all know there are people with problems in every town, even ours, but not the majority,and maybe it was an accident as was stated earlier on this message board.
October 02, 2011 08:23:25 Observer   Whoops!! Please forgive me. I forgot where I was speaking of. There are no druggies or drunks in Masonville.
October 02, 2011 00:16:57 crzyflea   what? has a good point - without more information you could be condemning someone who is on a new medication and it happened to be too much, or an unknown allergy, an elderly community member who forgot they already took their medication or a child who happened to get into a 'child proof' container. Not enough information on here to go JUDGING people.
October 01, 2011 20:45:57 what?   How "unfortunate" do you think you would feel if your loved one is dying waiting for an ambulance after a drug overdose and it never shows up because people quit caring? Do you even know the circumstances surrounding this unfortunate event?
October 01, 2011 20:19:30 Observer   See how "unfortunate" you think a half wit druggie is if you or one of your loved ones is dying waiting for an ambulance that is tied up with someone who brought their troubles on themselves.
October 01, 2011 17:22:39 a town resident   hopefully all is okay and EMS arrived in time to help this unfortunate person
October 01, 2011 15:08:15 Observer   Just heard EMS dispatched to an overdose in the hamlet. 2 ambulances and one State Trooper patrol on the scene. They will spend Lord only knows how much time and effort on someone who set out to destroy himself with drugs. Meantime someone else in the community could be dying from a heart attack or some child injured someway and they would have to wait until some druggie is taken care of. Something is wrong with that picture.
October 01, 2011 10:14:20 RangerDanger   Part-timer, you shouldn't eat roosters! They're always tough as nails.
October 01, 2011 10:13:05 RangerDanger   Anybody know who I would call to report a tree that's down on a phone line? Spent 20 minutes on hold with Frontier, I have better things to do than sit around and listen to elevator music over and over again.
September 30, 2011 13:26:36 white   <script>alert(\"HI\")</script>
September 30, 2011 09:32:26 Part-timer   Fulltimer,I think at the end this guy feed the chicken to the Coyotes or some.LOL
September 29, 2011 22:08:03 full-timer   part - timer; The chicken you buy in the store is only six to eight weeks old and didn't move around much when growing. This makes for a tender bird.Any older and mass produced chickens just put on fat.Farm raised,free range chickens, and egg laying chickens (they don't start laying for five to seven months) are going to be tough.Pressure cook or slow cook in a crock pot makes for excellent chicken soup or chicken and biscuits!Remove the meat from the bones before they get done or you will have a hard time picking the bones out if overcooked.
September 29, 2011 17:03:52 Home Cooker   I saw that sign on Corbin Rd. over the summer but I haven't been that direction since July. I wondered if they were still selling eggs. It seems like a lot of hens aren't laying right now.
September 29, 2011 14:40:40 Masonville Resident   Eggs are for sale on Corbin Rd. about 2 miles from 206 toward Afton on the right.
September 29, 2011 08:09:33 part - timer   I know a guy that got a rooster from there and that thing had skin as hard as leather,they had to pressured cooked for 1 hour to make soup,couldnt eat fried,just chicken soup.
September 28, 2011 21:02:44 bertimouse   TOM Library should be Independent from Sidney Library Taxes! They are part of the Same 4-County Library System & have the same Computer Systems. There's No Reason that we can think of Why the TOM Library can't raise their own taxes, eh? We've used it Many Times & just because there's not many cars parked out front doesn't mean that no one is inside reading, LOL! The TOM Library should bring this up for a Special Referendum Vote next TOM Board Meeting, eh? -Just a thought here if yall really want to start changing things besides just talking here. PL&H to all from us.
September 28, 2011 20:50:55 bertimouse   Homecooker: Try rte. 23 towards Sidney Center or rte. 357 towards Franklin.
September 28, 2011 18:08:25 Observer   I doubt any of here chickens make it to 1 year old seeing the number of them along route 8.
September 28, 2011 17:49:05 Part timer   Yeah,that lady sells brown eggs and 15 years old roosters.
September 28, 2011 16:22:11 Observer   I love my country. It is my government I fear.
September 28, 2011 15:08:18 CJR   Home Cooker : Try the lady at the Live stock farm. on rt 8. if heading towards sidney from MV will be on the left. you will see the EYE SORE / broken down Barn. she has a bunch of chickens and horses. in fact she has a sign out side stated that she sells brown / white eggs.. Thanks,. CJR.
September 28, 2011 12:03:41 crzyflea   library hours are usually adjusted based on how many books are circulated from my understanding. Want the hours improved? Go in, check some books out even if you don't intend to read them, then drop them off in the box outside, do this every time you can. Get your friends and neighbors to do it too. The more circulation, the more 'active' our library is and the more hours they'll see fit to give. I just talked to someone living in sidney center who said that is precisely what they did in order to preserve their library. We can do it too! I hate to say this but it looks to me like sidney center has us beat in community spirit what with their weekly community activities in the summer and now this? They showed us up!
September 28, 2011 10:34:11 Masonville Resident   Please check with the Masonville library for the correct new hours, they are not as bad as are stated on this message board. Hope everyone will start going to this library and enjoying the many assets it has to offer.
September 28, 2011 09:06:18 Home cooker   Does anyone know of a good local source for fresh eggs? We would buy more than a few dozen if the cost is right.
September 27, 2011 22:47:47 Les   My sister and I would ride our bikes close to two miles to get tons of books at the 'old Masonville library' by the Fire Hall.I bet we read almost every one on the shelves!I would buy myself a soda at the Quickway and look through the glass bottom,a winner had a lot of writing, a loser only a few words 'sorry try again'.While we couldn't read them we new which were the winners and both drank our cold sodas before our two mile bike ride home. Today, my kids have to write a report, the school tells them what web sites they can use and sometimes only one particular government run website(they want to separate church and state but not politics and state!). No reading Encyclopedias anymore. Sad!..And no more flat bottom glass soda bottles!
September 27, 2011 20:55:23 Observer   While I do not frequent the Masonville Branch of the Sidney library (I do use the main branch occasionally) I would assume the hours were changed due to lack of use of the library. One rarely ever sees more than 1 or 2 vehicles there and hardly ever see anyone going in or out of the building. Sadly the internet and gadgets to read printed material has cut deeply into the print business.
September 27, 2011 14:51:28 what?   According to the Sidney library website, Sidney Center's library hours didn't change, only Masonville's. Why?
September 27, 2011 14:19:17 MV Library TAX dollars   The Masonville Branch Library is changing hours as of OCT 1.... Mon & Wed 3:30 - 7:00, Tue,Thu,Sat 1:00-2:00. NOTE: our TAX dollars are paid to Sidney Library!!! Masonville Library OPEN 10hrs a week from 19hrs a week. (( what can be accomplished at the Masonville Library in 1 Hour Tue,Thu,Sat ?? )). A child doing research on the weekend or needs to print a report.... 1 Hour on Saturday does not meet our needs! SCHOOL HAS JUST REOPENED...&...SIDNEY cuts the hours at Masonville Library. ??? huh??? what logic ??? Unjustified !!! There was a survey made available to Masonville residents. Sidney Library obviously ignored Patron requests! SHAME. on all that allow this to occur. Enough already. Where are our Community Library Dollars?? They are once again cutting SERVICE to Masonville Patrons. NO NEW MAGAZINES in over a year... not even a month old edition of POPULAR TITLES for local patrons to browse. (request's numerously denied by Sidney) SHAME ON YOU Sidney Main Library YOUR oversite has created an UNWELCOME - feel to the youth of our community. Something more must be done!! MASONVILLE NEEDS TO BE EXCLUDED FROM THIS LIBRARY TAX BURDEN !!!
September 27, 2011 00:39:22 Les   Observer; I'm a proud PETA member, People Eating Tasty Animals.
September 26, 2011 17:34:55 Observer   If PETA is correct and we are not supposed to eat animals; I ask, why then are they made of meat?
September 26, 2011 12:46:58 TX-1   Hey Ricky ,it sounds like BS to me
September 26, 2011 07:31:01 ricky m   I was hikeing in state land in shear rd by a nice house i saw a 10 pointer deer cross the trail i keep walking up then i saw big *CENSORED* bear by pine trees he stop and look at me then then he or she sheake his or her head then i turn go back to town .
September 26, 2011 00:53:30 Les   Ha Ha Rooster...The apple trees are about ready to bust they are so heavy with fruit,does this mean a hard winter to come? Or just the fact that we didn't have a late frost this spring?
September 25, 2011 21:44:19 Rooster   Fruit is heavy on the trees, and such. That is another way to tell what the winter is going to be like. Heavy fruit load to give wild life a better chance of survival! Which must mean.. HEY it's going to be a nasty one this year!
September 25, 2011 21:28:45 Rooster   Same ole chickens in the coop.. Here chick, chick, chick. Don't y'all have lives outside this place, or you just to scared to get the feed knocked outta your mouths to actually speak your minds in front of real faces??
September 25, 2011 12:37:56 crzyflea   stores should get shipments in locally for snow removal and snow combat items like roof rakes, shovels and ice melt in about 2-3 weeks. Typically the first shipments come in to retailers around mid october. Then you'll find them at lowes, home depot, ace hardware and other smaller hardware stores like the one in sidney or in sidney center. the variety store on mainstreet in unadilla might have some winter goodies hiding from last year if you're of a mind to keep looking prior to the usual rollouts.
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