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January 20, 2011 19:02:25 bertimouse   Observer: Huh? Forgive us but we don't understand your comment, please do explain. Thanks.
January 20, 2011 12:01:04 Observer   I am certainly impressed. Millions of dollars spent wining and dining the "president" of China and Obama conviences him to leave the Pandas in the US longer. Gotta admit our Prez sure knows how to go get im!!
January 19, 2011 15:37:45 Observer   Taxpayer - I do not apologize for discussing Scripture or the Bible on this site or any other. The Bible tells us the Gospel will be a stumbling block and an offense to some. If you are offended then you best take it up with a much higher authority than anyone on this site.
January 19, 2011 13:25:40 taxpayer   It would not hurt the parents to fix breakfast and dinner for their family, but probably few do. Yes,my kids attended Masonville school and I fed them breakfast, bagged lunch and dinner. As a matter of fact they now fix breakfast and dinner for their kids and even a bagged lunch sometimes. It is too bad that some parents think a meal has to come out of a box, prepacked frozen or in a can. What ever happened to cooking and eating at the table instead of in front of the television ? As far as the government ruling, is that not what the BOE think they are?
January 18, 2011 23:37:59 bertimouse   taxpayer: let's here take a poll: How Many Kids in this district get "2 healthy meals" as you say. We're assuming you mean breakfast & dinner? Do you know how many K-5 kids eat breakfast at school now on the district's/our dime every morning?(We used to know at the MV Elementary before they closed it down.) taxpayer: school lunches are NOT controlled by the Government as you say. They are controlled locally by the BOE. Would you like to send your kids to school with their own lunches everyday? As far as we knew you still can, yes? Back in the day that's what every parent did when & especially The School LUNCH PROGRAM Was Cut. (Remember & Are You Listening SCSD?) School LUNCH Budgets can be CUT in many different ways & it all depends on how the TAXPAYERS DECIDE & VOTE; NOT the School Board, remember? The Day May Come when the fancy, newly & highly equipped kitchens of the SCSD may be sold off at auction to someone else because 1)Folks will find out that money is being brutally wasted there. 2)Folks more & more will realize that Less is More regarding cr@p food served to our children. 3)Some folk soon may stand up & Crusade for School Home-Grown Gardens & Local Foods for TOM School Children enough to pressure the SCSD. 4)Some Folks may realize that a "brown bag" lunch is the best way to not only send a message to SCSD, but to also teach our TOM children in another way. Nuff said.
January 18, 2011 22:36:23 Les   Wow taxpayer,your computer has a direct link to the unofficial Masonville website upon turning it on!Mine takes me to wherever I want to go.Endless possibilities.To tell you the truth I don't go to church,I keep it in my heart and thoughts.
January 18, 2011 17:55:38 taxpayer   yes but do we need to there when we turn the computer on?
January 18, 2011 17:55:09 taxpayer   yes but do we need to there when we turn the computer on?
January 18, 2011 16:27:11 Observer   Taxpayer - Sounds like a great place to be :)
January 18, 2011 15:24:51 taxpayer   Are we in church?
January 18, 2011 11:25:12 Observer   Les - Yes, I know it was not you who mentions the Bible and abortion. I was commenting in general. I too am disappointed in the corruption we see in the Scripture but it is only a sign of the corruption of society in general. The title Reverend is found only once in the Bible and then it is referring to God not a man. I prefer a different title actually. Nevertheless it has been nice chatting with you about God and the Bible.
January 18, 2011 01:24:16 Les   I did not mention that the bible says abortion is wrong.I was reiterating Rev. Lisa Jo Bezner of Otego,I believe she is dead wrong.And the reinterpretation of the bible for modern times,Rev.Craig Schwalenberg of Oneonta.Just a little disheartening hearing this from so called Reverends.
January 17, 2011 11:26:08 Observer   Les - I read the Star now and then but not as a regular read. Actually my understanding would be that private interpertation of the Scripture is not good practice. -- "20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 1 Peter 1:20-21. Thus interperting the Word for the day or culture is to corrupt what God intended. Yes, the culture may be different than the culture of Moses' or Christ's time but the principle is still the same and the sin is still the same thus the same solution and principles apply. -- You mention the Bible does not say abortion is wrong. Well, there are verses in the Old Testament referring to striking a woman with child and causing her to abort the child and the penalities for doing so. Also the Bible condemns murder in numerous places. As to the forgivness of sin; all sin is forgivable but one must remember the only sin one is condemned for is the sin of not accepting the atoning work of God's Son Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. A person without Christ is already condemned. A person with Christ who sins has forgiveness and understanding. But that does not mean a person with Christ is free from the penalty of that sin. He will pay the penalty either here or hereafter. All will stand before the Throne and answer for the things done in the flesh. --- As to using the Bible as a history book. Yes, the Bible has history but it is not primarily a history book. It is a book of Salvation - God's good news to lost man. The Bible contains all that man needs to live a Godly life.
January 17, 2011 07:51:35 taxpayer   If all of our kids eat 2 healthy meals a day at home where we can be sure all is good food, that is the best we can do. School lunches are controlled by the government, and you know what that means, we have no control. Maybe we will all have to send their lunch with them so we know what they eat.
January 17, 2011 02:00:04 Les   Observer do you read the Daily star.I've read the comments of two different reverends that one-the bible is open for interpretation for modern times(sounds like the liberal view on the constitution).Two- the bible doesn't say abortion is wrong,you are forgiven for all your sins.I know a rainbow is a promise from God that the earth will never be flooded again.But I wonder what is in store for us to be set on the right track once again.My thoughts,"If one can't look at the Bible for salvation or religion in general,then look at it as a piece of history,history repeats."Think about it.Thank you for your thoughts observer.
January 17, 2011 01:26:27 Les   Unfortunately they cut out potatoes too!Cooked right, spuds are a good source of vitamins fiber and carbs.Yes kids need carbs,not all of them are FAT.My kids eat all the time and are still skinny.
January 16, 2011 21:27:04 bertimouse   Les: About the new school meal regulations: we've heard that they have to cut out white bread, serve only whole grains & more veggies, less sugar & salt. We\'ve always felt that regular no salt butter was best in moderation like everything else. One new food they said the kids loved was the "chicken nuggets" made with white chicken & whole grain breading. The radio report also noted that K-5 kids didn't notice any difference whereas the middle-school kids did, DUH. Guess that's another reason for the 10-year phase-in plan for healthier foods in schools. By the way; do you know why they have vending machines available in schools for kids in the first place? "Way back in the day" when we went to school all there was to drink from K-9 was either WATER from the drinking fountain or what you bought for lunch. The vending machines were off-limits in the teacher's lounge. Why should the school district be making more money from us besides our taxes? Why are kids today so spoiled? All these extra things wind up costing us in additional taxes(school vending contracts)don't they? Doesn't having LESS really mean that you have MORE? OK Nuff said.
January 16, 2011 17:53:37 Observer   "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV). While this verse was written to the nation of Israel under David it has been said, "While all Scripture is not written too us; all Scripture is written for us." Mr. President, Mr/Mrs/Miss Congress people, Mr. Governor, Mr/Mrs/Miss Local leaders if you will take this verse to heart we will see a change in our country. The dismissal of God in any culture or society is to dismiss the very core of morality that makes that culture or society viable. We cannot, as a society, bend with every wave of doctrine but rather we must anchor ourselves to the Rock to weather the storms of adversity that beset our country.
January 15, 2011 22:42:31 Les   Little info,schools are low fat no trans fat.For breakfast only promise spread for bagels,you can see this.For the meals behind the curtain,dump the high trans fat CHEAP margarine in everything they cook.Yum um good.
January 15, 2011 14:15:59 Craig DuMond   Thank you to our Webmaster, for quickly addressing the problem ON THE OFFICIAL SITE. On behalf of the Town Board we greatly appreciate your service to our town and your willingness to help us out!
January 14, 2011 22:13:18 bertimouse   Does anyone know more about the new regulation or law (?)to provide healthier school lunches? They've reported on the radio about it several times now - reducing salt, sugar, starch etc.? First thing we thought was: WHAT A GREAT IDEA TO 1)Have ALL schools grow their own fresh produce gardens and 2)This could be a great way to bring back our local farms! (DUH) 3)Seems like moving forward towards the future always brings us back to past history. 4)BRAVO we say! FINALLY the schools will begin to stop serving cr@p food to our children who are the light & future of all of our worlds. 5)Unfortunately they say there's a 10 YEAR DEADLINE which they explained will give the "canned food companies" (another high priced lobbier influencing regulations here? Argh!) time to figure out how to can their veggies without so much SALT &/or bad food coloring. OK Nuff said about that. We here are real excited & very happy about bringing real & healthier food back into the school cafeterias & think that by Buying Local Produce & Growing Our Own will keep the costs down. One wonders if the SCSD is as excited or pro-active. Sometimes we think we should just let the Senior HS students take over running the darn district. Yah we know, Nuff said again.
January 14, 2011 14:33:48 taxpayer   Probably other web sites have been hacked locally but we are not aware of it. Too bad this happens ,but I guess that is the world of computers.
January 14, 2011 13:34:14 Kathy Ryan kkryan2@hotmail.com On a positive note, I'd like to compliment Jon Ferris/Oneonta Garage Doors, (1-877-783-2991)on the excellent customer service provided. We bought new doors last year and had our first problem this morning. Jon & son responded promptly and had the problem fixed in no time. I had visions of having to wait until Monday and not being able to use the garage. Thankfully, that didn't happen. I HIGHLY recommend Oneonta Garage Doors!!! I would have liked to post this on Angies list but they don't service our area yet so this is the next best thing!
January 14, 2011 10:14:46 TOM Webmaster   The guestbook on the TOM site was set so that any new entries mmediately notified the webmaster. This allowed the webmaster to immediately view the entry. A poster or hacker managed to defeat the safeguard sometime over the past few days. The webmaster had no notification that anything had been posted. It has now been set up so that any new entries to the Guest Book will have to be approved by the Webmaster before they are viewable on the site. The objectionable postings recently posted to the site were not the result of bots but rather from a local ISP thus the Bot guard did not function. Other than having a 24 hours observer on the site there is not much of any way of absolutely guaranteing that nothing objectionable will ever appear on the site. The only solution to that would be to remove the Guest Book and that is really NO guarantee that someone would not hack the site. So perfection is probably not on the horizon for the site. All websites do as well as they can but there are always those out there attempting to undo what is done. One has only to witness the number of safety patches Micro Soft issues in a years time for their software. I can assure you that the Masonville site has NOT spent the time or money that Micro Soft has over the years protecting their software and sites. I have maintained the site for a couple of years now and this is the first intrusion I have experienced on the site. Hopefully the next webmaster has a better experience. Of the numerous websites I now or have maintained I do not think I have had even one that was not somehow compromised at one time or another. I maintain a Church site and even that has received at one time or another objectionable material that had to be dealt with. Believe me that just because some of you may think Masonville is one level above paradise and completely unsullied not everyone out there feels that way.
January 14, 2011 09:10:31 TOM Webmaster   Yes the Masonville site was hit by bots along with about 10,000 other smaller sites in NYS. I and the hosting company handling the site are working to block any other actions. As to the reflections on the town of Masonville. I am resigning as web master of the site as I am sure Robin and Grumpy can do a much better job. So go for it. Keep in mind that the internet does get hit from time to time. Even the Federal Government has been hit and the Masonville site is not quite as well guarded as the Federal Government. If TOM Wants to pay the freight the site can be made nearly spam or hack proof. Somehow I think 10 or 20 thousand a year would not be accepted either.
January 13, 2011 21:46:51 Craig DuMond   Thank you so much Robin for brining this to my attention. I will contact the webmaster and have it taken care of ASAP! Grumpy had the same problem a while back on this site and had to put safe guards in place to prevent the 'spamming' we are now getting on the official site. Grumpy, maybe you can assist our webmaster??? Again, thank you Robin for looking out for us!
January 13, 2011 19:50:13 Robin Little   Craig, Who is in charge of the Guestbook on the offical Masonville website? What is on there isn't very nice. I was shocked and appalled. We really don't want that kind of reflection on our town. It is down right disgusting. Thank you Craig, as I know you will get this fixed. Thank you Grumpy for keeping this site clean.
January 13, 2011 18:06:30 Mormon Hollow Farm   Earlier this week our community lost a good friend and devoted member of our town. Our prayers go out to the family of Charles Howland and also to the family of a long time vet, Ken Benson from Bainbridge who passed away last week. These two men will be truly missed and thought of often. The Brayman family
January 12, 2011 07:55:57 ThoughtsToPonder   \"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it.\" Frederic Bastiat
January 11, 2011 22:55:34 Les   A farm helps support many businesses.Can you imagine what life is going to be like after this country drives them all out of business.We are going to eat whatever the factories can syntheticly produce with there hybridization and genetic enginering.Yum mmm good.
January 11, 2011 21:51:22 taxpayer   It really is good to know someone is thinking of our county farms, life sure would be difficult without them. We also would be missing a lot of good people that make things enjoyable for the rest of us, such as the Del. Co Fair which we all enjoy.
January 11, 2011 20:57:39 Craig DuMond   The Town has and will continue to support our local farmers. We have passed many pro-agriculture resolutions and have engaged in discussions on the issue. Last June for Dairy Month we passed a resolution and issued a proclamation to the Scott Family Dairy Farm for their 100 years of service. The Board continues to support the agriculture tax exemption for our farmers that are left. Moreover, the County Board of Supervisors is very pro-agriculture as well. Our latest accomplishment was beating back the Feds on the Chesapeake Bay TMDL and storm water restrictions they wanted to make. More work must be done and I will continue to be diligent and fight for our family farms. I grew up around farms, was a member of the FFA and worked on a farm my entire adolescent years. My wife is a 4-H Leader and active with the Cornell Cooperative Extension. She also owns and operates a horse farm. As far as drilling is concerned, I am pro safe-drilling. I believe we can safely extract these precious resources without the horrible catastrophes that has happened elsewhere as no one has the restrictions we have here in NYS. The vast majority of our farmers support drilling and the local economy is in desperate need of a shot in the arm. The farmers have been good stewards of our land for generations and I do not see why that would change now.
January 11, 2011 19:41:57 bertimouse   Hi Les: I totally appreciate our webmaster for allowing my extra words! Don't know how to "text" like the kids do & can't understand most of that anyway. I know some stuff though; like "LOL" (Laughing out loud) & OMG (Oh My God). Yesterday I learned "WTH" (What the HE--). Dumb. Anyway Les, your discussion with Dee about the 1995 law was cool & Lee is right. Maybe we should change it. Or maybe not. At least it's talked about now & Thank you. YOU made my day. Thanks for that. :)
January 11, 2011 19:32:34 bertimouse   local: It's a good thing that flatlanders throw their money around here. We need that. Allot. Your right in saying that most are very nice. We hope that most care about "us". The problem seems to be that they try to throw their weight around as well without understanding the local dynamics which upsets us here. We here in MV since '02 totally understand the hardships of local land owners & have been trying since 1993(from Unadilla) to connect farmers to new ways to make themselves "viable" again. If our farms become "weekend homes" the way of life & wildlife will be ruined for many types of different folk. We Clearly Don't Want That, Yes? So it's not just TOM but Delaware County that is almost PAST the crossroads now. We've lost SO MANY FARMS already & continue to lose more EVERY YEAR! Forgive me local, but we here think that the TOM Supervisor has not done enough yet to help local farmers NOW & cares more about helping to lease & sell all your land to developers & drillers who will Yes be "Friends of Gas Drilling" & "Development" -but TOM has NO real contingency plan [yet] for the "FRIENDS OF POISON WATER" & the "Friends of Higher Taxes because of increased Town Highway & support" Taxes if the spit hits the fan, you know? Nuff said. Are you listening Craig?
January 11, 2011 18:59:18 bertimouse   Hi taxpayer: I personally apologize to you because I misunderstood your comment. Unfortunately there are less folks like you. We personally feel good after a job well done; whether it's at home or work. Sadly we find more people(usually younger spoiled folks & elderly folk who have no outside help for whatever reasons)just Don't Care anymore because of other things that are more important to them. Today at work just before leaving, I received a "Thank You-YOU MADE MY DAY" phone call. Well, that MADE MY DAY THAT I MADE HIS DAY, you know? There is a ripple effect. THAT guy is going to go home & be happy with his folks, & so on & so on. One folk that I know(& try to stay away from)actually enjoys the opposite. It "makes THEIR day" to make folk miserable! Now that's just not right & only continues a cycle of well, you know. It's the same old story man, Goodness over Evil, Light against the Darkness. We here like to think that TOM is mostly in the former rather than the later. Again, forgive me neighbor & bless you for what you do.
January 11, 2011 09:53:59 local   mostly talking about local land owners who have a hard time keeping large amounts of land, guess i dont know enough about the issue to blame anybody.dont hate outsiders most are very nice. and yes i do fear change because what are we going to do when all the farms are turned into weekend homes?
January 11, 2011 08:37:38 taxpayer   Bertimouse, I do not assume too much, I have lived in this town over 70 years and do know how many of us think. The last I would do is offend any one of my many friends, what I meant was, Storm and winter clean up is a difficult job and not all of us are physically able to do the cleanup. If some neighbors would help to clean others lawns, which I do, it would make that person feel better about themselves knowing how nice it looks to all, including themselves. Stop looking at the negative side of things and get away from the computer long enough to help some one instead of finding fault.
January 11, 2011 01:58:02 Les   Thanks bertimouse for not asking for examples.I would have tested the 255 word limit with a bunch of ranting.Like Dee said (thanks Dee this is how I feel too)"laws are both good and bad.This law was passed in 1995 and perhaps what we need to look at is changing the laws."I kinda said this myself.I'm not personally "close friends" with the Grays, but their from Masonville and consider them "friends" just like all my neighbors.If anyone from Masonville is persecuted in my opinion unjustly I will defend them.I keep my house neat and tidy and cleaned up,but I have had my share of junk cars and big messes, and didn't give a *CENSORED* what others thought of me so I'm hopefully never going to be a hypocrite.God made ten commandments, since then man made thousands!
January 10, 2011 20:59:27 wshbown   thanks bertimouse
January 10, 2011 19:16:23 bertimouse   Hi wshb...: "WRE" location: Go down route 8 North towards Sidney till you hit the intersection of rtes. 8 & 7 at the traffic light. (HESS gas station is on the NW corner.) Hang a right onto rte. 7 towards Sidney & then make the first left about 1/10 of a mile after your turn. Make the first right & you'll be there.
January 10, 2011 19:06:32 bertimouse   Les: Holy Stupid Laws, Batman! No need to remind us here about Dumb A_ _ (DA) State & Fed laws. Thank God TOM still has folks who still 1)Can think/review & discuss issues first before voting/enacting. 2)Wave to their neighbors 3)Know how to help out & pull together during emergencies. 4)Most important: CARE about HERE, you know? Nuff said.
January 10, 2011 19:02:10 wshbown   thanks for all the info all i have is construction debri on a trailer .can you tell me were the wre site is thanks again
January 10, 2011 18:56:13 bertmouse   wshbown: The Delaware County landfill is the last best deal around. When we bought our place we spent 6 months cleaning out all the tires & JUNK that the former owners abandoned there. Yours truly was there every Saturday & became almost on a first name basis with the good folks there. You have to prove you're a resident of the county & on Saturdays they're only open until about 2pm, so because it's a 25 minute one-way ride(25 miles?)from TOM figure 3 pu truckloads a day if you have no other help with loading/unloading & all. -Tires there with no rims are free. Tires with rims on them-they charge you for but if you can get someone to cut the tires off the rims with a saws-all then you can dump both for 0$. Construction debris they weigh but sometimes if it's just a little bit mixed in with your garbage, they'll flag you through if your honest about it. Kitchen garbage=free. Recyclables,TVs/METAL=free. Also recyclables/used clothes/shoes=free. Don't know about refrigerators & stuff with freon. PAINT CANS have to be empty/filled with sand. The closest place to TOM is the "WRE" transfer station in Sidney which charges $3 per 30-gallon clear garbage bag from Delaware Co. but they're only open till noon on Saturdays. They also charge for any construction debris including metal. Recyclables for free though one time the lady there told me that it was "their company policy" to not except only recyclables-you must "Pay" for at least one bag of garbage as well during your recycling visit. Huh. Never heard of THAT policy I said. She let me dump our recyclables anyway that day. Hope our experience helps your choices. :)
January 10, 2011 18:28:58 Robin Little   The dump is open Tuesday thru Saturday. It is just before the State DOT sheds. You can take recyclable cans, plastic and glass besides household garbage. Also, newspapers (separated, Shiny and regular), clean cardboard. There are clothing bins too. However you need to be advised that you have to throw stuff into the appropriate bins and if you use a truck the load must be covered. There are people there to direct you and answer any questions. Just stop at the trailer and tell them what you have.
January 10, 2011 01:11:57 Les   Bertimouse the town might not have too many bs laws but the state and feds do.If you can't think of any examples,I sure can.
January 10, 2011 01:07:34 Les   Household trash,free.Construction debris,and tv\'s electronics,furniture,tires,there is a fee.
January 10, 2011 00:30:52 CrzyFlea   the dump is east of walton, on route 10. its on the right hand side. the turn is where the road widens to having 2 lanes temporarily.
January 09, 2011 18:28:28 wshbown   were is the dump and is it free
January 08, 2011 23:43:29 Les   You can take trash like, I do to the delaware county dump for free.Like I said for free minus the cost of liquid gold "gas".
January 08, 2011 23:34:08 Les   I think the 225 word limit means in one post.
January 08, 2011 23:28:48 bertimouse   By The Way; I thought there was a 225 word limit to this bulletin board? Webmaster please update me on your policy, Thanks.
January 08, 2011 23:27:04 bertimouse   It's a new decade folks. We've got a great little TOM & a great Super always on the watch. Go to the Board mtgs. & stop b.ing here. If you REALLY want to be a biochie - you just have to attend the monthly TOM mtgs, you know? They are great & this is why I love Masonville the most. Everyone will listen to you.
January 08, 2011 23:18:05 bertimouse   to City folk: About your trash talk - %15 is the amount for trash pickup. It's something that maybe you cannot understand that folks here just cannot afford every month. DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND about what poor and/or self sustaining really means? I think not.
January 08, 2011 23:14:57 bertimouse   truth seeker: Sorry but we here think that you are a big sexist pig dog. Clear here that you either had nor loved a sister.
January 08, 2011 23:12:07 bertimouse   taxpayer: Not take offense? How dare you. Who are you. Who are us to you? "Make me a better person"? In everyone's eyes? Make them feel better about themselves? Who's "friends home" and who are you talking about and in what situation? You assume WAY too much.
January 08, 2011 23:08:39 bertimouse   To Local: You Make No Sense. As to why "we locals might get a little mad" about down staters throwing their "inflated money around?" Do you really think you can't afford to pay your taxes because of down staters moving here? Please do explain why.
January 08, 2011 23:05:32 bertimouse   Dee Cutting: It's a New Decade, New year & time for new talk; thanks for your good thoughts.
January 08, 2011 23:04:05 bertimouse   To Bob Jackson: Inflated money paid for old farm land? Are you serious? What are you doing with your land now besides letting it lie fallow growing scrub trees & no longer being farmed anymore, eh? Are you at least plowing to grow some hay? You suck if you think that you are doing something good for MV by just paying your freaking taxes.
January 08, 2011 22:59:21 bertimouse   Les: TOM doesn't have too many b.s. laws. get over it.
January 08, 2011 22:57:22 bertimouse   Rich: Ditto here.
January 07, 2011 08:22:28 Rich   CJR - Thanks for the info. I'll give him a call. To all - I love Masonville and all it's local charm. I guess it's my Navy training but I like to keep my house and property neat and clean. It doesn't matter where you live, city or county. I see it as pride of ownership.
January 07, 2011 07:59:19 taxpayer   For some reason picking up the "stuff" on our lawns does make us seem like better people and that would probably help the situation at our friends home. Maybe they will read this not take offense and work at this situation to "better" themselves in everyones eyes and in the long run make them feel better about themselves also.
January 07, 2011 04:44:27 Les   If the people of Masonville think about who lives where in town and where they are from we will realize we are made up of many "out of towners".Some have lived in Masonville most of my life,I grew up with their kids that lived here most of their lives too.Two of my close neighbors are from the city and Jersey,some of the nicest most neighborly people I ever met.My family have lived in Masonville a few generations,I've been here most of my 35 years.But my father in law,who was born in the city,and returned to work for awhile,and still has family there has only lived here maybe 60 of his 73 years.Does that make him a flatlander?To pick on the city folk is no diffrent then picking on lifetime residents who live as they wish instead of fitting the mold of what the unhappy people would like to see.Getting with the times and complying with new and newer laws is one of the things hurting America.
January 06, 2011 22:02:10 city folk   yes you are correct .but we all work hard at our jobs, and some own there own business .it doesnt take much and doesnt require money to go outside and pick up your trash, junk or whatever and take it to the curb and let the garbage men take it away. i bet you if they did this people would leave them alone and cut them some slak
January 06, 2011 19:38:44 taxpayer   city folk, what you say is true but it still does not hurt to be supportive of our all of our Masonville residents.
January 06, 2011 19:17:14 city folk   traffic laws change , building codes change ,saftey codes change , we all have to follow them whether we like it or not .so you have to get with the times or get fined . if you cant bring your business up to code or follow the law then you shouldnt be in business.grandfathered in or not.
January 06, 2011 14:29:51 CJR   Rich: Talk to TOM @ 607-265-3266 - He lives just out side of Masonville. on rt -8 . He does a great Job.
January 06, 2011 12:53:24 local   your right probably just jealous,but not an angry vandal.
January 06, 2011 12:52:58 taxpayer   Money seems to be the bottom line for all of us, whether we are working, retired or on disability we all need money to survive. The idea to help figure out a solution to keep the Gray's in business is great and the town board and Mr. DuMond can do the most to succeed with this job, good luck to them. Also. when the gas lines go thru our township maybe that money will help us all or give some people more to find fault about.
January 06, 2011 12:38:48 Rich   Haapy New Year! I have few large fallen Hemlocks on my property that are too nice to just cut up and let rot. Does anyone know of someone with a saw mill who may want to come and take the trees?
January 06, 2011 11:16:56 Dee Cutting   Hello again. Can anyone answerer this for me...Do you think the chamber or commerce will assist us with the TOM 200th anniversary? How does that work? They are involved with Sidney days and sponsor it. Just looking for some support to get the ball rolling on the most spectacular celebration Masonville has ever seen!!! LOL...sorry just a little enthusiastic. Thanks for any info in advanced.
January 06, 2011 10:38:57 truth seeker   Does the junk yard fall under the grandfather law?? Seems like it does. This is not to attack anyone or call names, it is just to help out a neighbor who has help many in this community. They volunteer at the church you all attend, walk through the yard with you looking for a part for your car or tractor because you can't afford to pay what the big businesses are asking. you are correct in identifying a law that need revising, and how do we do that...take another 2-3 years debating this issue. "no one wants to put the grays out of business" is what you say, however...try saying this "how do we keep the grays in business?" they are not targets? OK then work to fix it...if you are true to your word Mrs. Ryan then lets see it. Believing is seeing...and I don't believe you!
January 06, 2011 09:33:42 name with held   enough already, did you read what you just wrote? Citi folk work hard for thier money. They do not throw it around. If they did how, could they afford to buy a home up here and pay full taxes. If you believe local folks do not have money ask yourself why. Could it be that some are afraid of change? Fight for Industry, Fight to keep NYC out, Fight to keep the local charm. Greys junk yard can be part of that charm. But make sure that it is safe. Folks smoked for years, doesn't make it smart and I am glad for them that most recognize that and don't blame the surgeon general for bringing it to thier attention. Change can be good. So fight a good fight but don't fight each other. Don't fight the citi folk who are paying taxes without any exemptions and for the most part do not get any benefit from them. I don't want my house vandalized while I am not there for speaking my mind, sad that us citi folk have to consider that.
January 06, 2011 08:49:10 local   if down staters didnt throw their [inflated money] around then locals might be able to afford to pay their taxes. dont blame city folk from wanting to live up here but have a little understanding as to why we locals might get a little mad.
January 06, 2011 07:32:43 Dee Cutting   Good morning everyone. Happy New Year. I attended the town board meeting last night and I would like to say a few thing. I realize that the stress over these properties has a lot of people up in arms, however, last night I sat and listened to all the members address numerous issues. And they did it well. Some things that I was uncertain about became clearer just by listening. I do not think this is personal. As Craig has said, he has lived here is whole life and I believe he and the other members are looking for a good solution that will satisfy everyone. But there are legal issues, which even the board recognizes were not previously enforce by no fault of theirs. This is not a cut and dry issue. And it is beyond me how so many people are writing such hurtful stuff about them, and in the same paragraph tell others to be nice, kind, love thy neighbor. I too moved here from Long Island. Granted I have lived here longer then I lived there, but our community is made up of a lot of people from all over...that is one of our greatest qualities...the allure of Masonville, the goodness of its residents, attracts people to want to make a better life for their families. I for one am proud of that. I do not know Kathy Ryan personally, but I believed her last night when she said this was not to hurt anyone, it is a law. Laws are both good and bad, this law was passed in 1995 and perhaps what we need to look at is changing the laws. I may get a little slap from this, but I think it is important that everyone is heard. But its not enough to hear it...you must listen. I hope this will be resolved in a respectful manner, the name calling is hurtful and unnecessary. Come and listen to the board and ask your questions, I did, and they were more then willing to answer them. Blessings to all my neighbors.
January 06, 2011 06:44:28 CJR   Dam , Mr. Jackson, You got up at the wrong side of the bed ! but anyways you are right. don\'t blame the jersey folks or the city folks. I live in Northern Jersey. in Sussex County, which is 99 % Farm Land and Wooded Area. also I own a piece of land in Masonville. which we paid @ a fair price and pay taxes on. So, you hit the nail. thanks for fighting for us downstaters..
January 05, 2011 22:10:20 Bob Jackson   Like to clear up a few misconceptions!!!!!!!! How you can use the term invasion is beyond me!! Last time we bought property we payed MORE then fair price to an agent who represented that farmer at a good price. No one forced them or their children to take all that inflated money.. And as for cost to clean up one\'s property what happened to good old manpower it work\'s for me. And thanks for the information that down the street has been operating for the last few year as a junk yard. Didn\'t know there was a permit to operate already. Have you seen one? And by the way don\'t you think enough is enough about downstaters I\'m sick and tired of everyone blaming us flatlanders for all the troubles up here. We have the same right you do to live anywhere we want, we pay the same taxes as you do and have to follow the same laws. At least this is one downstaters that isn\'t afraid to use a real name as this bulletin board requests.
January 04, 2011 23:09:30 Les   The house on cole rd with the fence, the homeowners were thrown out years ago by child protective services,they had young kids.This house was nothing like the Gray\'s issue.It was more like hoarders on tv.The people who lived there,not a mean one or bad one in the bunch.The place has been drastically cleaned up already.Most of the cars are gone.This is a whole diffrent issue,not an \"eyesore\"but bad liveing conditions.
January 04, 2011 22:52:49 Les   Thank you Craig for thinking about "us""Masonville"and its diverse citizens.The fight is with us as a town not to have to live like the status quo.These bs laws in our great USA need to be reread and rethought by good common sense grassroots Americans.And put an end to politics as usual.God made ten commandments,since then man made thousands.
January 04, 2011 21:27:15 Craig DuMond   I have given these issues plenty of thought, lost a lot of sleep and struggle to balance enforcement of State laws with common sense. I have lived in this Town all my life and know almost everyone personally. No one is being singled out or picked on. The other property discussed regarding the fence; this property too is being litigated against to address the health and safety issues contained within. The fence to my knowledge (addressed long before me) what put up by the property owner, not the Town. There are numerous other properties being addressed not just the property on Steam Mill. As stated in previous posts; we are living in a litigious society, full of lawyers, ready to sue "deep pocketed" towns with a moments notice. Once we receive a legitimate complaint we dont have a choice but to address it. Lawyers and Courts do not accept "this is masonville and this is he way it has been for years" defense. No or inappropriate action equals every taxpayer being on the hook ie attorneys fees to defend allegations as well as damages regarding prevailing suits. With that being said all I can promise is to treat every case as fairly and equally as possible with the highest degree of common sense allowed by law. I a happy to discuss this with an constituent and/or hear any suggestions that may help us represent you the best way possible. Please contact me and I will be more than willing to hear you out.
January 04, 2011 15:24:09 Grumpy Ernst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com That, TX, is because that bear is now hibernating!
January 04, 2011 14:41:10 TX   It is good to see that Shears rd ,have been left alone.for a while.LOL LOL.
January 04, 2011 13:43:22 taxpayer   tuth seeker , maybe our supervisor should give this some thought.
January 04, 2011 10:39:48 truth seeker   So how is the permit issue going? I'm not to sure of the date, but not to long ago, the town put up a huge fence around a property on a dead end road who'm house, yard and family living was a dump. They couldn't get them to do it or move and there were rumors of drug traffic between that home on the hill (near a quarry) and state land. I know the peoples names but will not type it. and I am sure a number of you know what property I am talking about. So now there is a 4 way stop there and the property and all its junk and odor and filth is still there...but we put a nice fence around it so it didn't bother anyone. Out of sight out of mine...how did that all work?? Just curious to know seems like different rules for different folks. You may not care for the grays and how they live, but Marv was a good man. He was always there to help. I recall the flood and how his whole family went to the fire house and cooked for the volunteers. He would always help out his neighbor with anything that he had, and for someone who had so little, that was worth millions. How do we get the permit for the junk yard passed? Does the town vote, do we have a voice...because frankly you may be sitting in those seats that we voted you into, but you speak not for us, the people of Masonville, but for yourselves and for the city people who moved up here and believe they can take over on our town board and our town roads, and our homes...times are changing and the vote needs to change too it seems. Be for the people of your town, try to help them, not hurt them. Sad! I have sat in your meetings a listened to you all go on and on and on about stuff, and when a subject comes up that is personal to one of you, it's dismissed or you find stupid things to delay it. This is not politics its personal. Just because you hold a seat on the board, a seat we all gave you mind you, you do not have the right to dismiss most of masonville for your own agenda. everyone knows what you are doing, so it is clear that your only interest is for self or your family needs. you moved here seeing that view before you built you home, and now after how many years you finally see it??? Please...enough is enough, give them the permit. Most of the town wants it. Start the new year with peace and lets move on shall we!
January 04, 2011 07:51:35 taxpayer   Les, thank you, it is nice to see someone look as this in an unselfish way. We are a town of dirt roads, pot holes and yes, junk yards. Within reason none of these will hurt us. Seems to be the city folk on steam mill that have the issues, I am glad that they do not live on my road.
January 03, 2011 23:43:42 Les   Progress costs money.I would rather deal with some potholes to negotiate on my road,then know some poor sap has to deal with higher taxes.
January 01, 2011 21:20:49 Old Man   The comparison between Lake Cecil Rd. and Steam Mill Rd. [junk yard] was not to stir the Lake Cecil issue, but to point out that people buy property under present and surrounding conditions and then expect neighbors to change anything that does not suit them. Improvements are nice if they can be afforded, but should not have to be done under pressure from new or implanted land owners.
January 01, 2011 14:23:12 Craig DuMond   The Town is actually working on numerous code-related issues on a number of different properties. I can assure you that everyone is treated fairly, equally and with a high degree of due process. We do not want to be involved in property owners lives unless we absolutely have to be. Unfortunately, in these days and times, once we receive a complaint if we do take take appropriate action we subject ourselves to liability. i.e. every taxpayer being on the hook. We always do everything possible to apply the highest degree of common sense and afford the owner every attempt to rectify the situation and/or work things out prior to taking further action. Feel free to contact me at any time to discuss.
January 01, 2011 12:05:28 taxpayer   Maybe the town board and Supervisor should drive around town and look on the hillsides,valleys and yes,even the back yards for more than one junk car and if these residents have not applied for a junk yard permit they should or they should be treated like the Gray family is being treated. How many times have any of us needed a car part and made some calls to junk yards to find that part cheaper than at an auto parts store? Please lets be friends and treat all equally.
January 01, 2011 10:39:22 Craig DuMond   p.s. Much work has been put into Lake Cecil over the years and we will continue to maintain the road on a annual basis as needed.
January 01, 2011 10:36:38 Craig DuMond   In regard to the Lake Cecil resident; My statement was not made out of frustration but by means of considering dollars and cents. Lake Cecil is a dead end and has always been a dirt road and contains very few residents. The gentleman requested the entire road be paved, which is just not fiscally possible. We have many more through roads in terrible condition that need our attention first. I simply told the gentleman it would be impossible to do and unless something changes with the situation dont expect the road to be paved anytime in the future. Even though I sympathize with his position I could not be anything but frank and honest about the situation. The Town Board has been looking at improvements over the last few years; the pole barn (finally) to protect the Town's equipment from the elements being one and finally updating the Town Hall another. We continue to invest in our roads based on a fairly established priority list and maintain a well-equipped highway department. We are always open to suggestions for continuous improvement as no single person has all the answers but collectively we can accomplish a lot. Happy New Year to you and yours and may the bicentennial be a grand one!
January 01, 2011 01:04:03 Lynn   Hi Old Man. I can\'t believe you remember what Craig said to the resident on Lake Cecil Road. I also remember it, but not so fondly. I got the impression that maybe the resident was pestering Craig and that was why he answered without any thought. Not only should the TOM roads be maintained for all of its taxpayers it should also look towards progress.
December 31, 2010 20:45:51 Les   My neighbors are people,not houses,or front yards.
December 31, 2010 16:35:28 tazpayer   Observer- This is true and only shows that as time passes we all learn to accept change and make the best of it. Happy New Year to all.
December 31, 2010 12:30:17 Old Man   If I am correct, Craig told the resident from Lake Cecil Rd. that the road was a gravel road when he moved there and will remain gravel for a long time to come, the same should be true for the junk yard issue on Steam Mill Rd, after all, the 3rd generation is still operating this business.
December 31, 2010 11:01:56 Observer   Taxpayer - Keep in mind it was the farmer next door who sold the land to build the new house on.
December 31, 2010 08:57:19 taxpayer   To all worried about how our wonderful Masonville may look. If your house is under60 years old, you invaded the farmland that made this town. How do you think the farmer next door felt when that new house was built? Maybe they felt they did not like what they saw and it was hurting the land with the new that they brought and all the new people and their doings. We all need to live with change and deal with the ones left who are still making a living the way their grandfathers and great grandfathers did. So lets get along.
December 31, 2010 06:54:21 Tony - CR-20   Wishing everyone in Masonville Health; Wealth and Happiness in 2011!
December 31, 2010 00:15:32 CrzyFlea   Funny there is such a fuss about a 3rd generation junk yard. If I\'m not mistaken, there was even a junk yard in that location before Eldred purchased it. Seems now though we\'ve got arrogant nosey ninnies moving into the area who don\'t know how to look out to the right going up a hill and left when going down it but boy are they good at looking down their nose. Don\'t you think the Gray\'s would be the first ones concerned with the potential contaminants going into the ground, its their water it would get to first. Doesn\'t seem like they\'ve got bad water at all though - maybe you should try it and find out. Furthermore, I don\'t know how many a times there are locals who wouldn\'t have a working vehicle if it hadn\'t been for that junk yard and Eldred, Marv or Steve.
December 30, 2010 21:50:30 bertimouse   Speaking of roads being trashed by various sources: just wait until they start drilling for gas; all ye who are "friends of gas drilling" - Our house calls 'em "friends of Poison Water" amoung other things. Folks; yall need to calm down & be at Peace for 2011. Stay Positive. Love Thy Neighbor. PRAYER always helps. Try it as a scientific test, if you will. Things WILL always get better if only you will just believe it will & work towards that end. Find out what YOU can do to Help, not hinder, you know? TOM, here's wishing us one & all the best for this next decade. May every one of us do better with everything we do because we are strong, independent, brave & proud of our community. Have a safe & Happy New Year TOM. -Nuff said.
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