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May 30, 2012 10:27:16 Observer   Bertimouse - I do not go to a yard/garage/barn/porch/etc sale to make new friends. The chances are they do not want to know me and I do not want to know them -- LOL -- But as I said it is easy enough to say what one wants for an item and then it can be accepted or rejected. Haggling is for a market someplace in the desert of the middle east. Nevertheless I hope they had a successful lawn sale.
May 30, 2012 10:01:51 whatever!   reasonable sorry i meant highway supervisor.
May 30, 2012 08:23:16 Reasonable   Change in supervisor? Didnt we just have a change? I believe the person who took over from Craig was back by Craig 100%. That is good enough for me!!!
May 29, 2012 22:28:15 bertimouse   Hi Observer: What,you dont like/know how to haggle?!? Some of our best friends were met this way-OY! This is the best part of any garage sale. ;) Hope yall had a Great M.Wknd. Truly.
May 27, 2012 05:22:06 whatever!   resident no higher then there elected supervisor, time for change.
May 27, 2012 01:03:08 Judy   To observer::: sorry everything wasn't appropriately priced or marked for you. 99% of the people we met delightfully asked about an items price, then they either negotiated down in their favor or moved on to something else. Nobody got insulted. That's part of the fun at garage sales. Can you imagine, we even gave away many items free of charge!!!!! You were the only one that walked away unhappy.
May 25, 2012 18:31:08 Observer   Kathy - Nice yard sale. But a bit of advice? At least for me when I stop at a yard sale and ask the price of an item I sort of expect the person has a price in mind. I do not make "offers". It either ends up that the seller or the buyer is insulted. I would have purchased several items except for that fact. It is easy enough for the seller to name a price and the buyer can accept and buy or reject and go elsewhere. But best of luck with your sale.
May 24, 2012 20:56:14 Kathy   MULTI FAMILY YARD SALE FRI 5/25 & SAT 5/26 9A - 3P STEAM MILL RD - 1 MILE UP SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE!!!
May 24, 2012 12:06:51 resident of Masonville   The town highway crew does what they are told to do so maybe we should look higher up the line before we critisize anyone. They did help build the new town hall and as we know you cannot be in two places at once. Good job guys!!
May 23, 2012 20:53:13 Reasonable   200k extra in the budget? If I have my numbers right that is nearly a 35-40% increase! Yikes, I wonder how many people would support such a tax increase?
May 23, 2012 00:35:51 bertimouse   Regarding Gas Fracking: 1. In Towanda,PA in the summer of 2011 there were 60 TRUCKS AN HOUR,24 HOURS A DAY,7 DAYS A WEEK,as reported by andesworks.com.(this is an org based in Andes NY trying to protect Delaware County.)-Do we REALLY want to hear & have that kind of road traffic here? 2. Ninety percent of the new High Paid Labor Force will be engineers,inspectors,riggers, operators,truck drivers,etc.will NOT be from NY. The most increased local labor force will be for $7.25/hr. restaurant,KMart & gas station associates. 3. If the TOM Board wanted to hire an independent monitor as has been recently suggested,then they should prepare for a budget referendum vote which would include AT LEAST another $200K to the Town 1-yr.Budget. Its a Great Idea to do this kind of monitoring to protect&report only to the TOM but for what & do ya really think a vote like that would pass? 4. i.e.what does whatever MEAN?& how could the TOM decide on things like what?: supervise the construction? take independent testing for which area wells & for what chemicals? inspect the roadways & which ones? supervise the site work construction & how far away? Develop & coordinate an Emergency Management Plan with the TOM & Delaware County regarding gas fracking? 4. Being Cautious & Wise First before Action always saves health,happiness & lives. Past History is a great tool. OK Nuff said.
May 22, 2012 23:20:26 bertimouse   Regarding the TOM HWY DEPT: 1.Kudos to the TOM Hwy.Dept.during winter. 2.Yes,some of our back roads buck with a Big S & before u know it some folks may start suing the TOM for damage to their cars because of potholes but 3.The TOM Hwy.dept.has to live within their means just like the rest of us. Nuff said.
May 22, 2012 13:54:24 Observer   Maybe I am missing something but my opinion would be that our highway crew, considering the types and amount of road they have to maintain, is doing yoeman's work. The making surplus trucks seems to be working out pretty fair. They get them for next to nothing put a few bucks in them and sell them at a profit for the town coffers. Sounds good to me!!! In fact they just sold one they fixed up that I would have bid on but it went for more than my pocketook felt it could affort at this time.
May 22, 2012 13:31:08 concerned also   it appears our highway dept spends much time making surplus trucks look nice. we only have a three man crew what. what do you expect miracles?
May 21, 2012 07:39:15 whatever?   Our roads are really in bad shape do we still have a highway crew.No clean up no road maintanence.
May 20, 2012 19:52:03 funsucker   Sad to hear that. A lot of people took advantage of the clean up days. I hope it will be available next year.
May 19, 2012 11:15:32 Observer   No clean up days in Masonville this year.
May 19, 2012 06:33:59 funsucker   What are the dates for Masonville clean up days this year
May 18, 2012 21:27:32 wshbown   anything going on around town for memorial day weekend
May 17, 2012 14:38:27 Whatever.   reasonable that is the most correct information to date. It was nice to see that the sky was not falling as all the chicken little anti frackers are claiming. All I would ask is that the town require permits at a very high cost somethi9ng like 250,000 per well to maintain our roads as you can see our town roads are in deplorable shape. Also the town should hire a monitior with no aggenda to monitor the operation and report back to the town board. Let's start drilling.
May 16, 2012 22:40:45 bertimouse   Observer: a derby car is what you run in the Demolition Derbies. its on my bucket list to run in Walton as Bertiemouse number 17 & kick some btt someday! ;) ;) ;)
May 16, 2012 22:34:01 bertimouse   Reasonable: whos information are you using regarding your quotes as follows: 1.NYS has already thought of boundary issues. 2.NYS has thought of just about everything! We were smart, we sat back and watched while others made huge mistakes, then crafted our regulations based on what was learned.[Do tell us more about these regulations since you seem to be the only 1 in the state that knows yet] 3.The \"chemicals\" you speak of are 99.9% WATER and .01% chemical, which is the same chemical typically found in fabric softener. (OK so why cant you just say which chemicals they are?)-our pers. comments in [] &().
May 16, 2012 21:29:33 Reasonable   NYS has already thought of boundary issues, also known as setbacks, regarding drilling. NYS has thought of just about everything! We were smart, we sat back and watched while others made huge mistakes, then crafted our regulations based on what was learned. The \"chemicals\" you speak of are 99.9% WATER and .01% chemical, which is the same chemical typically found in fabric softener. And we release fabric softener in septic systems directly into the ground ABOVE the aquifer.
May 16, 2012 17:47:13 Observer   Not to sound stupid, but what in heavens is a \"Derby\" car? Some exotic racing machine?
May 16, 2012 15:25:29 what?   One regulation that is needed is a minimum distance to adjacent properties. If town regulations say I can\'t park a derby car on my front lawn, and state regulations regulate how far from my neighbors home, etc. my wood boiler can be,( the state outlawed my wood boiler and all like it from further sale in NY, even though it smokes LESS than my neighbors indoor wood stoves), then where they can drill should be regulated.
May 16, 2012 15:18:22 what?   Hey, at least Reasonable is being Reasonable. Who? is being dumb. I posted recently; It is a shame that there is so much negative that comes with fracking.In PA and W. Virginia, Marcellus shale has brought a boom in production, jobs, and profits – and a drop in natural gas prices for consumers.$3.5 billion in gross revenues for drillers in 2011, along with about $1.2 billion in West Virginia...I'm actually a pro-driller, we have more natural resources in OUR country than the Middle East. Get Liberals like Obama out of office and we could become energy independent. BUT as long as I hear chemicals are going to be fracked into our ground, I am against fracking. And as of yet I have heard no move towards using propane for fracking in NY.
May 16, 2012 11:45:06 Reasonable   I meant "no" risks....
May 16, 2012 11:44:27 Reasonable   I am not saying there are risks, there are risks with anything. You have a 1 in 50 chance in being killed in a car accident....maybe we should go back to horses? or better yet our feet and PETA would never allow us to use horses for transportation again.
May 16, 2012 07:58:25 Who?   What? your right lets just put everyone on social services. Why would we want to create jobs.
May 15, 2012 22:14:30 what?   100% pure huh? Is that why scientists are finding mutated fish, that they linked to the use of birth control, coming from urine, from sewage treatment plants. It is also believed to be causing problems with male fertility. I bet those guys never spill those chemicals, I bet they never have a well crack, and I bet they always report it if they do have a problem.
May 15, 2012 20:38:03 Reasonable   NYS Regulations do not permit evaporation ponds or frack water to be reused. In NY State all water must be treated by a NYS Approved municipal waste water treatment facility, which treats the water and returns it to the rivers/streams 100% pure, the same way they treat raw sewage! This will be a significant boom to the bleak finances of our cash strapped villages as there will be millions of gallons of water to treat. Get informed people and do not believe the hype or scare tactics using information from other states that do not have 1/3 of the stringent regulations we have here in NY State.
May 15, 2012 14:13:17 reader   Bertimouse, do you always talk to yourself?
May 15, 2012 04:17:48 who!   bertimouse whos information are you using.
May 15, 2012 04:06:48 what?   FYI, Reasonable; I will not vote for anybody that wants to give our missile defense secrets to Russia, and then probably North Korea and China.Obama issued a signing statement indicating that he felt restrictions aimed at protecting top-secret data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 could impede his foreign policy authority. Then Obama was caught on tape; President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space. President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you… President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility. President Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.
May 14, 2012 23:16:53 bertimouse   p.s.sorry last post so long, LOL yall but it was important to us to post that...if u can get a chance to read it ALL; it'd be worth it. OK Nuff said! ;)
May 14, 2012 23:14:14 bertimouse   Friends of Natural Gas=Friends of Poisoned Water! OK,so What To Do With Toxic Wastewater? Read this: Drillers take the water—still too salty to go into rivers—and use it again to fracture shale at another well. What isnt recycled goes to waste wells in Ohio or into holding ponds or steel tanks in Pennsylvania. The solid material left over is shipped to landfills, as regulated by state law.[Does NYS regulate this yet?] Ertel says now that they cant dump water in streams, more drillers are showing up on his doorstep. \"Basically what were seeing is, were seeing a gradual, controlled but necessary crank-down of regulation.\" Ertel says his company can also put frack water through a more rigorous process so it can go back into rivers. But that costs more. For now, about 90 percent of frack water is recycled in Pennsylvania & then re-used in fracking.[No regulations yet about recycled Frack water anywhere in NYS yet.] Thats an improvement. But that recycled water still requires more trucks to haul it around. Marty Muggleton says its time to fix the truck problem. Muggleton is vice president of TerrAqua Resource Mgmt, another recycling company in Williamsport. Eureka is in an old brick factory next to the Susquehanna River. The first thing you see are water trucks pumping polluted frack water into tanks. I put on a hard hat & went in to talk with plant owner Dan Ertel about this new business. \"We saw an absolute lack of any water treatment businesses or companies here,\" Ertel said. So in 2008 Eureka modified off-the-shelf technology & set up a factory to clean up the peculiar mix of gunk in frack water. The gunk is solid material like dirt, but also minerals like calcium, barium, sulfur compounds & others pollutants. They also remove any radioactive material that might have come from the shale.[No mention of what the \"other{i.e.as-of-yet-non-regulated}pollutants\" were or if existing area residences were tested before & after for Radon, water,etc.] Muggleton\'s company is designing centralized water treatment facilities closer to fracking sites,& pipelines that would replace water trucks.[Oh Great,just what we need:pipelines for liquid poison pumped to a treatment plant on your property; [Oh Well-{no pun intended}youve got 70 acres with a Frack Well on it already,what do you care if the water treatment site is also on your land eh?] A study by the Ground Water Protection Council of fracking water in Texas and Ohio found that water used in drilling has in fact come back up through old, unplugged wells. Yoxtheimer, the Penn State hydrologist,says fracking has been a \"lightning rod\" for the nations environmental movement. And he says Pennsylvania, like it or not, has been a case study for other states, like New York, that are weighing whether to allow hydraulic fracturing. \"I think its been very interesting to watch the industry change its practices because of public pressure,\" he says. [YAH THINK?!?] Pennsylvania\'s government appears to be listening. Theres a new law that charges a fee for each well drilled. The fee is not as high as some wanted, but it should generate millions of dollars for Pennsylvania and the counties where drilling takes place. And the state has also raised the bond amount that companies must post to cover the costs of cleanup once theyve left. ***The preceding comments were based on a news report by Christopher Joyce: PBS.News.Org entitled; With Gas Boom, Pennsylvania Fears New Toxic Legacy. Check it out for yourselves. Our pers. remarks were in[]&{}.
May 14, 2012 22:07:40 bertimouse   Drillers need billions of gallons of water. It's their dynamite: They use it to split rock. And they need trucks to move that water. Everywhere you drive in Pennsylvania's gas country, you're stuck behind a truck. You get mud all over your car. One-stoplight towns have traffic jams at noon. Dan Lopata, who's in charge of water for Chesapeake Energy, says trucks are a pain for everybody."The transportation of all the fluids is probably our biggest expense,and that's our highest exposure to the local community." "That's what they see driving up and down the road are the trucks." -I asked Lopata if those trucks annoy local people. "I would say yes to that question," he replied. I visited a Chesapeake Energy well site in the northeast part of PA; it was half the size of a football field.Machinery and workers were everywhere, all surrounded by forest. Deer in the woods, and John Deere on the pad. To get the natural gas out of the Marcellus layer of shale, engineers drill about a Mile Deep, then out horizontally through the shale layer. Explosive charges create cracks in the shale. Engineers then mix water with sand and Chemicals. Big pumps drive this slurry down into the shale. The fluid is so highly pressurized that it opens the cracks wider and liberates gas. What comes gushing up is called "flowback," a bubbly mix that looks like muddy champagne. Chesapeake senior director Brian Grove points to the 12-foot-high steel well head thats attached to several big hoses. Thats the plug at the opening of the well where gas will emerge. "It will come up through the well head," he explains over the din. "We will then put it through a large-scale separator, which will send water in one direction into steel tanks to be recycled, and then the gas will go in the other direction...What To Do With Toxic Wastewater? -Stay tuned yall this post is too long.
May 14, 2012 21:27:59 bertimouse   hmm: WRE in Sidney has a weight scale...u could ask em...theyve weighed ours for us for the DMV, etc. -hope this helps.
May 14, 2012 20:28:20 Reasonable   But you still havnt answered my question: Your savior, Obama, as well as his environmental left-wing scientists, say gas fracking is safe...does this mean you will be voting republican in November??? You cant have it both ways!!!
May 14, 2012 11:52:51 whatever?   Hmm we to0ok ours to WRE in Sidney!
May 14, 2012 11:06:40 Denis Burpoe   Good morning Masonville, It is that time of the year again to vote to have more money taken out of our households to help pay for our childrens education. Please get out and vote it does not matter wether the budget passes or fails we will still have a tax increase.Doesen't make sense doe it where you vote down something and it will still put a finacial burden on our households and community.I do not agree that all you have to be 18 years old and live in the district for 30 days and you can vote on what the landowner has to pay. We have people voting who have never payed a tax but will vote to keep a pool going on the home owners dime. I could go on but please make sure you exercise your rights by voting.
May 13, 2012 07:06:05 hmm...   Does anyone know of a place nearby where I can take a home built trailer to have it weighed? Apparently it's a requirement to register it. It's a little one, so it shouldn't weight much. It's just 5x8.
May 12, 2012 23:38:15 what?   I can\'t have a derby car in my front yard, but my neighbor can have a gas drilling rig.
May 12, 2012 23:28:07 what?   At a town board meeting explained the best? By who, the one that has a 'friends of natural gas' sign on their front lawn? Stop misleading readers, "fabric softener"? Come on, you know the chemicals they use are not fabric softener, of which I wouldn't want in my water either. Steel and concrete bored holes never have holes or cracks in them,not true. Do you really think they suck up all the chemical laden frack fluid? The whole ("but what about your neighbors sewer?, the farm down the road?, they put chemicals in the ground too.") why ADD to it? The worst pathetic comment from 'friends of natural gas' pro-drillers is "Drill a well, bring a soldier home". It sounds like the dirty Liberals who blamed the wars in the Middle East on oil and Bush being a oilman. More of our troops lives have been lost in Afghanistan under Obama in three years than eight years of Bush according to icasualties.org. , is Obama putting our soldiers in harms way for oil also. Quit being pathetic you pro chemical frackers. And by the way, there has been no move towards propane fracking in NY that I know of,if there is let us know.
May 12, 2012 07:46:03 Reasonable   I think it was at a Town Board meeting that I heard it explained the best; The anti-drillers complain that we are going t pump chemicals (mainly made up of water, sand, and fabric softener...or better yet the newest way, propane) into the round 3000-5000 feet BELOW the water table, with the entire 'drill hole' being encased in STEEL and CONCRETE. They have a major problem with this but have absolutely no problem with SEPTIC systems being built which leach SEPTIC WASTE directly into the ground 25-50 feet ABOVE the water table. Thank God all these anti-drillers were not around when septic systems were developed, we would probbaly still be crapping in a hole. However, they probably would not allow that either!!! Oh, and by the way, the fracking fluid that everyone is so worried about is completely pumped back up to the service, captured in sealed steel containers and trucked away to be treated at a sewage treatment facility. NY State does not allow evaporation pits that have caused many of the fracking fluid spills in other states.
May 09, 2012 21:16:16 what?   Lead pipes,paint,solder,mercury,asbestos,were considered safe. Formaldehyde is still used in many products we buy,and causes cancer, do you consider that safe? I don't trust anyone that has the money to buy what ever influence they want.The gas companies have this money, Obama has more money than the last ten Republicans campaigns combined to try to buy his re-election, a BILLION dollars. I'm actually a pro-driller, but if it is going to be next door to me, and they want to put chemicals in the ground, I will stand with the NO-FRACK crowd. There is just to much scientific evidence that shows fracking will be harmful to our community.It is a shame that there is so much negative that comes with fracking.In PA and W. Virginia, Marcellus shale has brought a boom in production, jobs, and profits – and a drop in natural gas prices for consumers.$3.5 billion in gross revenues for drillers in 2011, along with about $1.2 billion in West Virginia.
May 09, 2012 12:55:40 Reasonable   You still have not explained why your savior, Obama, and all his governmental scientists have declared fracking safe! I assume you will NOT be voting for him in the November election due to this issue?
May 09, 2012 10:39:51 Observer   Certified Code Enforcement ? Another name for government busybody?
May 08, 2012 22:13:13 bertimouse   Reasonable: your style of rational, sane & silent type of Majority will Always remain in the Minority so long as it Promotes Attitudes Without Wisdom. Whats your Future Program besides attacking the Rest of This Planet?
May 08, 2012 21:49:33 bertimouse   About Radon: As a NYS CEO(Certified Code Enforcement Official)we just attended a class up in Poughkeepsie,NY regarding RADON & WHAT NYS wants to do about updating the code rules. -Well this class scared the pants off everyone. Get ready folks to learn about why your family keeps getting Lung Cancer. In the TOM & the TOD close by it doesnt prevail BUT IT IS HERE. Our homes need to be tested every other year & anytime you or your neighbor moves DIRT around. SHALE & GRANITE are the worst offenders. LOL has anyone tested out near the MV Stone Works lately? If you have GRANITE COUNTERTOPS in your Kitchen right now, You Need to be tested for RADON! Anything over 4 pci/L in NYS will be required(in the near future for Lung Safety)to be abated with a system which will cost about $600 tops to install by yourself, err for now. For whatever its worth,hope this helps.Gas Fracking only just stirs it all up again & we are sure that there are NO clauses for Radon testing anywhere yet,err.
May 08, 2012 04:04:32 what?   Reasonable,try reading the report called 'Radon in Natural from Marcellus Shale' by Marvin Resnikoff, Ph.D.Radioactive Waste Management Associates Executive Summary January 10, 2012, before you make any 'informed' assumptions. "Radon is present in natural gas from Marcellus Shale at much higher concentrations than natural gas from wells in Louisiana and Texas.This issue,which has been ignored in the DEC’s Draft Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement, must be addressed in a revised Impact Statement and before DEC issues any drilling permits.
May 07, 2012 23:59:33 Lynn   My question: Why is Fracking in our community supported by influential NYC big timers when specific area's in which their drinking water is harvested from will not be open to fracking? If fracking is not a threat to drinking water then it should be open in all areas. If it is a threat be safe and go solar! I am all for making money but I am not for selling my soul!
May 07, 2012 20:22:40 Reasonable   Now I have heard it all...dangerous levels of radon in natural gas. You people have more excuses than carter has peanuts. I guess fraking with propane (new newest form of fracking) will cause a loss of breathable air? Folks, listen to the SCIENTISTS not the hype. All of our extreme left-wing scientists working for the State and Federal governments say this is safe. The same scientists that support global warming and acid rain, the same scientists that do not support drilling foe oil here in America say this is safe. Enough is enough already...it is time for the rational, sane, silent majority to speak up and be heard. Do not allow these alarmists to rule our future. This election in November (National, State and LOCAL) is the most critical in our history. We must act (vote) to protect our rights!!!
May 07, 2012 12:37:52 what?   The Radon is IN the natural gas.Radon exposure is the second leading cause of lung cancer in the U.S.
May 07, 2012 07:02:31 Reasonable   Is it the sand, water or fabric softener in the fracking fluid that contains radon? You people are greatly misinformed. The day the Town Board moves to initiate zoning in Masonville is the day we start replacing the Town Board.
May 06, 2012 21:58:16 bertimouse   Friends of Natural Gas Fracking=Friends of Poisoned Water is what we\'ve always believed here. As a nys ceo & architect we Know that Zoning is Key to be in place First-as George Denys said. We also know First-Hand about the devastation that happens to wells/farms-/wildlife/tourism/local-traffic/etc. PLEASE YALL! Consider the increased RADON Exposure Alone!(which No one is talking about-Yet). PLEASE AGAIN Folks; this is NOT Good for our area. The Good News is that once the Zoning Regs are in place we Can & Should Vote for Whatever Restrictions we\'d like. And Yes, this may be only a Paper Tiger but At Least It Legally Makes A Statement about the TOM Attitude regarding this issue. We need this NOW rather than LATER. eh? NUFF SAID.
May 05, 2012 21:30:30 Reasonable   Your King and Dictator-in-charge, Obama, and is experts at the EPA have determined fracking to be safe! Like it or not, the drilling is a comin' and I find it ironic at the hands of a political left.
May 05, 2012 11:26:51 what?   Well said Robert Beards. The U.S. can be energy independent, and stop giving money and jobs to countries that hate us. But until they make 'fracking' safe (if they still want to put chemicals in the ground it can not be proven safe), I will continue to be one of the 'anti-frackers'. Energy independence should not, and can not come at a cost of losing clean water.
May 05, 2012 11:15:30 Robert Beards   re: Concerned Butts road resident's post-- Marie and I did not make this statement, nor did our next door neighbors to the west. There are no other Masonville residents on Butts Road, so we are concerned that this message will be attributed to us. Our position is that Masonville ought best to protect itself from completely unrestricted industrial activities, in a timely manner, using the tools at our disposal, so as to protect the health, safety and welfare of our town and its residents. We are not opposed to gas exploration (or other industries) in principle, we simply feel it is prudent for Masonville to set some ground rules. The town board appears blinded by the promised "economic benefits", and is acting irrationally by not preparing its own protective measures.
May 05, 2012 09:15:15 what?   @;Reasonable,"It’s past time for Gov. Cuomo to join President Obama’s jobs agenda."??I hope NOT! NY's unemployment is high enough!The economy is in shambles, unemployment is still at a record high, even after Obama's Trillion dollar 'Stimulus'. There were 2.2 million more jobs available to have in this country in '09 than there are today. If the same number of jobs existed, the real unemployment rate that's reported would be almost 9.8%. If fewer people had jobs available to them, the same number of people exist, they still don't have jobs. It didn't make them less unemployed.The country is in unthinkable debt. Obama's JOBS act takes Billions of taxpayer dollars to fund public taxpayer paid for jobs, not one single dime for the private owned business's that fuels our economy.
May 05, 2012 08:59:37 what?   What? American president has ever wanted to bankrupt an industry?Obama! Obama said under his Cap and Trade policy electricity prices will sky rocket, and he will bankrupt the coal industry. The loss of billions in tax dollars and thousands of jobs.
May 05, 2012 08:49:31 what?   @;Reasonable, I agree drilling will be a economic boost for not only NY,but the rest of the country. The problem is they want to put CHEMICALS into the ground,and eventually our water. The U.S. has more natural gas and oil than all the Middle East. If you want lower gas prices and lower home heating costs vote out politicians like Obama.Obama said NO to the Keystone pipeline that would cut U.S. dependence on foreign oil and create thousands of jobs.
May 05, 2012 02:47:39 Reasonable   This article was in the NY POST a few days ago....search "frack" on the NY Post site. Pretty remarkable considering the publication iws a NYC newspaper!
May 04, 2012 16:31:08 Concerned Butts road resident   Cut and paste..... His opinion seems to just say GO! I hate all this gas mania. All Masonville will be is Niggar Rich.
May 04, 2012 13:26:01 Reasonable   Gov needs will to drill By MICHAEL BENJAMIN Last Updated: 1:03 AM, May 2, 2012 Posted: 11:35 PM, May 1, 2012 Roustabout may become the next hot job in New York — with modern versions of scenes from classics like “Giant” and “There Will Be Blood” coming to life across the Southern Tier. If the Department of Environmental Conservation ever makes good on Gov. Cuomo’s promises and produces reasonable regulations on fracking, shale-gas wells and pipeline projects will need hundreds of roustabouts. The median salary for the job is $38,000 annually — higher with experience. With a high-school diploma, an entry-level gas-field roustabout starts at an average of $22,000 a year. Plus, fracking means thousands of other jobs, too — jobs New York needs to get out of its economic doldrums. Unemployment stands at 8.7 percent statewide, and 9.8 percent in the city; in Southern Tier counties, it averages 8.9 percent. Nationwide, jobs in the oil and gas industry are projected to grow 6.4 percent by 2016. Demand will grow for geologists, engineers, administrative assistants, sales and marketing reps, financial analysts, fleet mechanics, truck drivers, heavy-equipment operators, machinists and pipefitters. At a recent Binghamton gas-industry jobs fair, attendees learned of opportunities for wetland and wildlife specialists, truck drivers, pipe suppliers and software engineers. But “fracking” means “hope” for people here in the city, too — people such as my Brooklyn friend Ray Lewandowski — an ex-offender, single parent and commercial trucker who deserves this second chance. There were jobs for those who test our water, treat and transport wastewater and keep gas-well operators honest. Gas companies pay for road improvements, too — creating opportunities for small businesses, including minority- and woman-owned firms. Decades of economic distress have left counties unable to upgrade many Southern Tier rural roads. Just across the border in Pennsylvania, gas companies are paying for the work, saving local governments millions of dollars. Yes, a boom also attracts those looking to make a dishonest buck. But local law enforcement will be prepared to handle upticks in crime. And the DEC’s Division of Law Enforcement already screens and licenses applicants for waste-transport and other permits under its “bad actors” provision. It can deny permits to unscrupulous operators or those suspected of organized crime ties. Safety concerns? Fracking is under way across the country, with nothing remotely like the problems that critics claim it would bring here in New York. The Obama administration has endorsed it — it’s the main reason US energy production is up under this president. The choice for New York is between well-regulated gas drilling and extraction, and thousands of good new jobs — or nothing. So far, it’s been “nothing”; DEC Commissioner Joe Martens keeps finding reasons to delay. Commerce opened up Western New York in the 1830s. Gov. DeWitt Clinton was ridiculed for his Erie Canal plan, but he understood that prosperity required bold action. The next time Gov. Cuomo walks through the Hall of Governors, he should pause in front of Clinton’s portrait and commit to following his example. Our state needs this. Fracking means an economic stimulus capable of generating thousands of good-paying jobs, plus millions of dollars in added government revenues. It could mean the success of Cuomo’s approach to leaner, smarter government. Instead, the governor has allowed the anti-fracking crowd to seize the initiative here in New York. It’s past time for Gov. Cuomo to join President Obama’s jobs agenda — and put New Yorkers to work in our untapped gas fields.
May 04, 2012 07:42:36 George Denys   Yes they can, if they have zoning laws in place to do so. A structure of zoning laws has to be in place to regulate or ban gas drilling. This was part of the courts decision. Please read the entire decision before posting. Grrrrrr .
May 03, 2012 19:07:32 tommy klehr   if i heard correctly at the town council meeting last night, it was stated that a local ban would be fruitless because the state could override it. in my previous post, the two URLs refer to NY Times articles stating that the State Supreme Court has ruled that New York municipalities can, in fact, ban oil & gas drilling.
May 03, 2012 18:03:24 tommy klehr   www.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/nyregion/town-can-ban-hydrofracking-ny-judge-rules.html www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/nyregion/judges-ruling-complicates-hydrofracking-issue-in-new-york.html
May 03, 2012 11:15:58 Grumpy Ernst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com Message Board TEST. Some of you are having problems posting to this venue, so this a TEST, TEST, TEST!
May 03, 2012 09:06:12 George Denys Fivestringpicker@gmail.com Thank you Chester and Lynn. Thank you to all the folks who supported me over the years. Working with Craig and the board was a great experience. Craig is a natural leader who ran an awesomely efficient meeting. His choice of book keeper and management style has saved your Town many thousands of dollars. Please don't forget that. Many people forget that just 6 years ago the Town had no credibility of enforceable laws, Craig has brought us almost up to date in a VERY short time. Yes, there is more work to be done on enforceable local laws and people are understandably impatient but with out him there would likely be still nothing. Fracking is here to stay as long as people show up, like last night, and just toss BS around. Kathy Klopchin seems to be the only one who brings thoughtful, credible data to meetings. Her data is iresputable and backed up by credible references. Our master plan was typed and printed by Tom Shepstone but all the questions were written by the people on the committee. To say it is "junk" because he was involved is misleading. He only put down what we wanted. I have been in contact with him as late as last fall and, despite the fact that we are polar opposites on Fracking, find him to be a genuine and honest man. In the long term, environmental issues aside, Fracking will devide the Town in ways we haven't even imagined. The social impacts of some residents getting rich and then, as quick as it came, losing that wealth as the gas money dries up has a far greater negitive potential for the long term stability of our town. How many lottery winners are broke a year later? Almost all. The drugs, the impulse buying of "stuff" will leave this town in a condition we can hardly imagine. And then there is the environmental issues. Fracking is NOT a long term financial answer for the town and only detracts from working on real long term solutions to our economic issues. Just my opinion. A moratorium is a good idea but will probably be worthless without zoning. The supreme court decision on this very issue was based on zoning laws witch we have none. Zoning was brought up in the master plan and was shot down by the residents of the town. They wanted total freedom and now that is a problem. If a lawyer could think their way around that then a moratorium would be a great tool to prepare for what seems like an eventuality. I hope I can continue to go to the Masonville Store, I love that place.
May 02, 2012 10:58:56 Town of Masonville Webmaster   George - Sorry to see ya depart our fair town. We will keep the Website up and running and thanks for your help in that area. Best of everything in the future.
May 01, 2012 23:24:45 Lynn   Sorry to hear that you are moving. The clarity that you have often shed on the topics discussed on this board will be greatly missed. Good luck to you! & Thank You
May 01, 2012 22:42:41 George Denys   Thank you too all the folks who, over the years, supported me. I have tried hard to represent ALL the people in this town. I have to resign my position as I am moving out of the Town. I sent my letter of resignation to our new Supervisor. It has been a real pleasure to be on the board. There have been troubled times and good times. Camp Brace is gone dispute my being on the evening news with Pete Lopez, Fracking continues to loom over us despite my attempts at cutting through the Gas Companies spin and educating the rest of the board. I have been maligned for not being public enough on this subject and have even lost good friends but belive I have done what can be done effectivly. It serves no one to yell and bang ones fist at public meetings. Education is the answer. On a bright note we have a town Hall that didn't break the bank too bad and our Highway dept folks continue to go well above and beyond in their jobs. The taxes remain as low as possible, our County needs to do much better though. Please don't forget to update the Master Plan. In lew of zoning it is all you have to bang over the boards head and let them know what you want out of them. Believe it or not, 20 people showing up at a board meeting with a common message is a VERY powerful tool. It was sad to see only Steve Tiska at many meetings. The public should be more involved. My hats off to Pam Walker for all she does for very little pay. The same goes for Lynn Wilson. The Town owes both of them more than it will ever be able to pay. Please support your new Supervisor, he is a good man who, unlike most politicians, will never lie to you. Really. Again, thank you for the memories!
May 01, 2012 22:14:58 George Denys   Actually it would be more cose effective if the towns did all the plowing and road repairs and we did away with the Delaware County dept of Public works. Your County tax bill makes the towns look like a bargain.
April 30, 2012 14:46:52 what?   Delaware County dump, just outside Walton towards Delhi.Tue-Sat,7:30am to 2:30pm.Most stuff is free, garbage should be in clear bags(I use white and have had no complaints)recyclables don't matter,they make you dump them out of the bags into a dumpster.If you bring in a lot of bags of garbage or debris on a truck they want it covered with a tarp (NYS law). All metal, appliances,electronics tires without rims are also free. CONSTRUCTION & DEMOLITION DEBRIS;$87/ton. 607-865-5805 • ext 215. They have a website, check it out.
April 30, 2012 08:41:03 need to know   is there a nearby landfill ??? which we can dispose garbage and building metrials.
April 29, 2012 22:16:03 Sell the Town   I didn't know the Hwy. Supt. was to pay for the dumpster rental out of his personal pocket instead of our tax dollars. Almost forgot he also should pay thousands of dollars for the dump tipping fees so we the tax payers don't have to. Seems like when you win the lottery you are expected to buy everything,anyone need their taxes paid for them? Rumor has it that Delaware County is giving certain roads to towns, so when can they maintain ours if they can't do their own?
April 29, 2012 18:59:56 one who can see two sides of things   Maybe all should just go to the landfill when they go to Walton, (if you go frequently it is easy,) and not worry about what town officials earn for doing their jobs, would all of you like to have someone find fault with the job you do and the wages you earn. And do you have a union to help protect your job?
April 29, 2012 15:06:48 what?   I bet it would be really cheap if we outsourced it to China!
April 29, 2012 10:10:30 whatever?   I bet it would be cheaper if the county took over our road plowing and yearly repairs,We have too many elected officials touching our money we need to get rid of some.
April 29, 2012 08:56:55 what?   Sidney was going to try contracting out, they found out it would cost the town MORE money. So your upset about not having cleanup day (even though there is still places to take your junk) and feel some of TOM's families should lose their jobs, income. I don't think the TOM workers are overpaid, at least they don't look it.
April 29, 2012 08:42:25 what?   Somebody has their panties in a knot. What did you have to take there? Old lawnmower, BBQ grill? Take it to the Delaware County dump and throw them in the dumpster, it's FREE! Old tires, refrigerators, batteries TV's are all accepted FREE at the dump. And their open five days a week.
April 29, 2012 06:44:50 resident !   now that there are no clean up days because it is to expensive for the town highway elected official to coordinate the operation,Would it not be better and cheaper for the town to get rid of that position and put all of our road maintenance out for bid every year. The town would get more for their money being non union employees.And we do not have to pay a Supervisor witch is a waste of money for the town.
April 23, 2012 08:18:37 Grumpy Ernst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com HAPPY BIRTHDAY today to our previous Town Supervisor Craig DuMond!
April 21, 2012 14:58:57 crzyflea   Sometimes we forget that recycling can make things beautiful too. Those old tires that cost so much to turn in for example could be turned into beautiful planters for beautifying the town. We are a down to earth town (I think at least)- why not show our creativity and have a beautifying project. If done properly tire planters can make a wonderful addition to a yard and garden. One of the ingredients in the rubber recipe is zinc. Zinc, in fact, is an essential plant element. I also expect that rubber is safer to use than treated lumber that contains copper and arsenic. Tires are durable. The very qualities that make them an environmental headache make them perfect for use in the garden. Paint them up with some bright non toxic paint for some added splashes of color, cut the tops into a petal pattern (you will need a little elbow grease for that) or make sure that they are packed tight in the grooves and you won't run the risk of stagnant water for mosquitos to set up nurseries in. Hop on google for some ideas and how to for this project!
April 19, 2012 00:34:18 concerned resident   Our thoughts and prayers going out to the Miller family.
April 17, 2012 13:04:42 Grumpy Ernst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com My darling little wife is big into planting stuff. She's been buying trees and shrubs and veggies and is digging up a lot of our property. She is in need of some old cow manure and wishes to know of a source. Of course, she's talking about aged manure, not new manure from old cows!
April 16, 2012 15:48:02 CC   TURKEY HUNTER : THERES LOTS OF TURKEYS ALL OVER THE AREA,. SEEN A FEW BIG VW *CENSORED* BY THE APPLE TREES ON STATE LAND. NICE ONES............ GOOD LUCK AND PASS BY AND SAY HI !
April 14, 2012 23:42:54 Turkey Hunter   Soon the jellyheads will fall ! Can`t wait for Spring Turkey Season To Start !!!!!
April 14, 2012 19:14:16 Mormon Hollow Farm   Grumpy, hope you enjoyed the view, we try hard to keep it looking nice.
April 14, 2012 17:50:36 Grumpy Ernst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com My little woman (she's 4'10") and I drove to Walton today to pick up a number of trees at their annual sale. In doing so, we passed by the MORMON HOLLOW FARM and I pointed out to my DW that this place belongs to a Masonville Town Council member.
April 14, 2012 11:54:31 MORMON HOLLOW FARM   Since our spring weather is here I hope all will be aware there will be farm tractors and equipment on all of the secondary roads and they do not travel at a high rate of speed so we do come upon them rather fast. Please be aware so no one gets hurt, this comes from someone who knows how fast disaster can strike! Again please be aware.
April 12, 2012 19:36:52 what?   Observer; I think you are right! Thanks! I actually thought it was a abbreviation for something the town did.Ha, Ha, oh well.
April 12, 2012 18:09:10 Observer   Well What? -- If you are English a "fag" is a cigarette. Elesewhere it possible refers to a male homosexual. But in this case I think they meant "flags" LOL :)
April 12, 2012 14:35:39 PINKA ROJA Y CORTO   YUP ! MASONVILLE ICE CREAM SHOP on RT 8 is OPEN. THEY HAVE THE BEST ICE CREAM in THE STATE OF NY. GOOD LUCK MS. OLD ICE CREAM LADY..
April 12, 2012 08:24:55 A few older Taxpayers   We would like to see our tax money used to make our town look better. We didn't get a say on the tax cap, so we say use the money for Clean Up Days. We agree that some rules should be put in place, like proof of residence and where the junk is coming from. If the landfill charges a fee for an item then that fee should be passed on; it would at least save the person gas money to just bring it into the town shed. It is easier to bring junk to the town shed and have someone help unload it, at the landfill you have to do it yourself. Please Save Masonville Clean Up Days! Don't throw that out to the garbage.
April 11, 2012 20:14:16 what?   "A BUDGET ITEM JUST LIKE FAGS",what? is FAGS.
April 11, 2012 17:12:09 TX-1   HEY!!! ICE CREAM IS OPEN,GOODDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!
April 11, 2012 16:33:43 Observer   As too scrap metal - I see ads all the time on Craigs list and elsewhere by people wanting to pick up any and all scrap metal. Right now scrap is selling quite high.
April 11, 2012 16:30:50 Observer   Perhaps someone should volunteer to take the responsibility of making sure citizens adhere to the rules of leaving items along with volunteers to do the work the Town Crew have been doing so they do not have to take time from their busy schedule to do it. While the dumpsters have always been at the Town garage site because it was convienient to the Town workers that is not carved it stone. They could be placed almost anyplace large enough to hold them. Perhaps a small fee could be charged to help offset the cost of such a venture.
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