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September 24, 2012 11:44:00 ???   I believe the issue was raised prior to Steve's appointment on the Town Board and the Comptroller, as well as the elections commissioner, both opined it was NOT a conflict of interest.
September 24, 2012 11:13:28 Just interested   PS - and the Code of ethics of the Town Board is a matter of public record.
September 24, 2012 11:09:57 Just interested   See State Comptrollers opinion 89-20 concerning code of ethics for Town Boards as not applying to Fire Departments. This opinion was rendered in 1989 at the request of Steven Tiska, Masonville Town Treasurer. It would appear unless the Fire Department has a code of ethic prohibiting a commissioner from serving on the Town Board it is not a conflict of interest.
September 24, 2012 09:54:02 concerned for fire dept   how can a fire commissioner be on the town board too? Isn\'t this a conflict of interest? Steve has to choose what to do and resign from one postion.
September 24, 2012 06:13:23 whatever!   resident you didn't notice that only half the road was repaired
September 23, 2012 09:48:02 resident   whatever, why don't you just go to a meeting and find out the answers to all of your "important" questions? Remember the meetings are the 1st Wed. of each month.
September 23, 2012 07:09:39 whatever!   I traveled foster road how com they left potholes un repaired
September 22, 2012 07:58:04 what?   What? Not the real what?
September 22, 2012 07:47:13 What?   Out of the office that was built
September 21, 2012 17:22:59 give some thought   There is only so much one person can do, do you want town clerk at the town office or do you want to reach someone on the weekends also?
September 21, 2012 07:57:44 voter   Please have the clerk work out of the office that was built by the taxpayers as every town does.
September 20, 2012 19:58:00 bertimouse   Saw our first Wooly Bear today. It had 2 small black spots on each end and the rest was all brown in the middle. Get ready for lots of snow this year, Yaay! Last year we saw a lot of pure black and mostly black ones so the old tale must be true. :)
September 20, 2012 12:04:27 voter   I understand that someone in our town made a county election board complaint that our election facility is not handycap accessable and our supervisor did a walk through inspection and was told it is the best facility in the county. Hopefully this person complaining is not one of the people wanting to be a board member and help run our town, that kind of help we do not need. Who ever made this call, some day the town people will find out and they will not be happy about what was said, it is always a good idea to think before you speak in a small town, because eventually we all hear about it.
September 20, 2012 11:54:57 resident   How many town clerks do you know that will serve you 5days a week, limited, but also on Sat. and Sun.? Maybe some people should learn to appreciate the extra that our small town does.
September 18, 2012 23:02:23 Pamela Walker pwalker#frontiernet.net The best place to leave a message is at my Home office 265-3537
September 18, 2012 22:54:57 Pamela Walker pwalker@frontiernet.net The Town Clerks hours are 5:00p.m. and after every day of the week including holidays Saturday's and Sunday's and sometimes before i go to my full time Job in the morning. Please call and I will return it. If the Town Clerk job paid a full time I would not have to work 2 job's. I work as Town Clerk for the people so please let me know how I can help you with what you need and I will be there.
September 18, 2012 17:24:11 what?   When is the vote? When is the vote to replace the new football field that they s crewed up?
September 18, 2012 09:51:56 tax payer   Maybe all should vote once again on the football field that SCS thinks they cannot live without! With the price of gas and heating oil I really hope everyone votes no. Not that it is nice for the kids, but in all reality we do need gasoline and heating fuel more! After last years voting I knew they would try again. The school board does not like to be told no.
September 18, 2012 08:43:41 Denis Burpoe   Tri Town News Thursday September 13 Sidney school to have vote on $7,699,000 new turf field with 6,199,000 in tax levy. Now if I were to have a tax increase it would have to be to fix my road. I'm spending that much in ball joints and tie rod ends. .
September 17, 2012 15:22:17 what?   What is their plan? Fix their new field, or are they going ahead with another new field?
September 17, 2012 11:53:10 Denis Burpoe.   I hope everyone is excited about the new football field that the school has going out to bid.
September 17, 2012 11:48:55 nobody   What are the town clerk hours for christ sake? Cant never get a hold of anyone. They should be open all day like all the other towns.
September 16, 2012 12:46:31 resident   Like many people,the town highway crew are hard working and unlike a lot of us, are on call at all times in case of emergency in a storm. We all have our benefits and drawbacks of our jobs , but doing a good job is the important thing, and to like our work certainly helps.
September 14, 2012 15:19:15 what?   Good one Observer!!
September 14, 2012 15:17:17 what?   Not many work on Christmas day, the TOM workers DO if needed, Thanksgiving and Easter too. I bet these complainers spend those days with family and friends.
September 14, 2012 09:06:01 !?!?!?!?!!!   The highway guys are on call, but don't get paid until they are called out to work. They miss family events when they have to go clear roads so you can travel to your family gatherings. Just remember they are up early clearing roads so you can get to work and make it safe for your children/grandchildren to go to school. The highway dept gets some directions from the board and Chuck gives a report to the board every month. No complaining about the money that was saved while they worked on the town hall? The economy isn't great; the cost of everything has gone up therefore making the cost for repairs to the roads more. Money will only go so far. Taxes could be increased to cover the higher cost; for one I don't want to pay more taxes, maybe the complainers could make a sizeable donation to the highway dept to fix their road.
September 14, 2012 07:00:46 What!   Eyes open on call and getting paid, The town also offers a retierment, healh care, sick time. tell them to go work some where else if they cant do the job. Dont feel bad at all look at all the tax payers not working.
September 13, 2012 17:07:47 Observer   A prayer for Obama - Psalm 109 verse 8.
September 13, 2012 08:59:07 EB   I, the Evil Bear am applying for the garbage collector postion for Shears Road business district.
September 13, 2012 08:24:26 TX-1   Are they going to have a drive-thru?
September 13, 2012 07:32:15 ??????   I heard they are going to build a golden corral restaurant . they are even going to serve deer and bear which is harvest from the local state lands !
September 12, 2012 19:51:34 HUH!!!   I heard it was actually a 5 star restraurant they are going to open on Shear Road.
September 12, 2012 19:09:19 HAPPY MEAL   NEWS UPDATE!!!! A new Burger King will open on Shears Rd. FIRST IN THE AREA!!!!!!! OKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 11, 2012 20:19:52 one who has eyes open   Does anyone realize there are 3 men working for the highway dept plus the highway superintendent. There are more miles per man in the town of Masonville than anyother town. When there is not enough money to rebuild roads you need to maintain the ones you can or you will start from scratch when there may be money. Some may complain now that things are not getting done but when it snows you show no mercy that these men are out all day 5am until who knows when so you can do what ever you want. They are also on 24/7 call in. Would you like it? The jobs they are told to do get done and a fine job at that.
September 11, 2012 09:23:03 YUP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Just find out they are going to put new EZ PASS EXPRESS LANES. On the new 4 lane highway on Shears Parkway. They also put a DOT Weigh Station on top by the old 4 ways. So Happy !! traffic in Shears parkway will flow at ease..........
September 11, 2012 08:15:25 Huh   wow back to dirt roads no money are our tax dollars being used elswhere. Something is wrong in the management of the highway dept. It sound like it needs to be looked at closely by the board.
September 10, 2012 22:51:21 Pothole Dodger   Our town crew is so large it should be paved by now, it has been three days of work so far. Today I could drive 20mph before only 5mph, seems like the moon surface is getting better. As they say it will get worse before it gets better. Last rumor was no money to pave so back to dirt roads I guess.Also no funds for new equipment either,can't wait till winter with no plow trucks. But Foster road rebuilt in a day???? Rome wasn't built in one day.
September 10, 2012 20:20:32 bertimouse   Appears the TOM Hwy. Dept. is saving money for this winter's road salt.
September 09, 2012 07:36:27 Who!   I am glad they are spending money on shears road because they are not doing any work any where else in town. Did anyone see the *CENSORED* work they are doing on foster road. I guess you get what you elect.
September 08, 2012 18:19:50 TX-1   Are they putting a traffic light on SHEARS RD
September 07, 2012 18:13:05 HUH   Yes some good did come out of the meeting. They are planning on putting a 4 lane devided highway the entire length of Shear Road. Of course there will be noise abatement in front of all houses and camps. Landscaping will have to be delayed until next summer unfortunately.
September 07, 2012 13:48:41 whatever?   Did anything good come out of the town board meeting last night. Are any roads getting repaired in the next couple of years.
September 07, 2012 08:59:36 A SHEAR ROAD HUNTER   ON THE 3 POINT RESTRICTION ON BUCKS IN THE AREA .. IN ONE HAND IT SUCKS. AND IN ANOTHER HAND THATS GREAT ! WE NEED SOME NICE BUCKS IN THE AREA. SINCE A FEW SMALLER BUCKS SPIKE,4,6 PTR LATELY. NO BIG ONES YET BUT SEEN BIG BIG DOES. AND LOTS OF BAMBIS. ANYONE SEEN ANY BIG GAME ON SHEARS RD STATE LANDS ????
September 07, 2012 07:38:06 j.b. wolf   Message Board Test
September 06, 2012 21:44:58 what?   These Democrats at their convention said they want to \"force corporations to lose money\". They don\'t have the slightest understanding that without profits, there\'s no business. It doesn\'t stay open. There aren\'t any jobs without profit. There aren\'t any taxes without profits. There\'s nothing without profits. And these Obama supporters want to ban profits.The Obama regime has been claiming they created 4.5 million jobs.It\'s a LIE but Obama continues to take credit for 4.5 million new jobs. CNN news fact checked, 300,000 new jobs. Obama has given us 42 straight months of unemployment over 8%, after Obama\'s trillion dollar \'Stimulus Bill\'. Unemployment was 7.8% when Obama was elected, 8.3% now.There is 23 million unemployed people in this country. The median family income four years ago: $54,983. Today it\'s $50,964. Basically the medium family income is down four grand.The national debt four years ago: $10.6 trillion. It\'s $15.9 trillion today.Obama has accumulated more National debt than 41 U.S. presidents from George Washington through George H.W. Bush combined.
September 06, 2012 20:36:42 Reasonable   I was watching some interviews being done by a conservative today at the DNC Convention...the question: "Do you think that all corporate profits should be outlawed?" To my dismay, every single individual answered "yes". One even said "if I ever came across Romney I would kill him". Unbelievable!!!
September 06, 2012 14:21:20 What!   The ones that want to live off the working mans money.
September 06, 2012 13:07:04 curious   How could any thinking individual read the Democrat platform and even remotely think of voting Democrat?
September 02, 2012 00:37:24 what?   WOW! Where is all the Shears road hunters, and Masonville BEAR hunters or any hunters?? Mike Collison asked a good question?? Whats? our opinion on the new minimum antler restrictions? I for one are AGAINST the new state rule! It will give the anti-hunters some new ammo, you-all are just trophy hunters!, they will say! Y\'all ain\'t looking for food you are hunting for a new plaque on the wall! I have shot some nice bucks, but I hunt to eat them not for the horns!! We will lose revenue from the out of state hunters, some locals say non-residents might leave accidentally shot bucks under the restriction left dead in the woods, FYI some locals will do the same!! Pro-proponents to antler restrictions think it will better the genetics of the deer, they all have the same genetics whether they are three on one side or eight on a side, the genetics don\'t change!!
August 30, 2012 11:31:42 Tony Antblahblah@gmail.com Hello i was wondering if any land on Getter hill road has been leased for gas drilling?and if so are they still interested in leasing on that road? Thank.
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August 29, 2012 13:14:49 Denis Burpoe   I will be running for a position as a member of Town Councilman as a write in Candidate this November.I will be looking foward for the opportunity to represent all the people of Masonville.
August 29, 2012 03:57:56 what?   I love to eat venison. The antlers are just for stirring the pot. This just means some of the deer will have three points on a side before they get shot.
August 28, 2012 20:45:17 Mike Collison   So on a non political note how do you guys feel about the 3 points on one side restriction by DEC?
August 27, 2012 20:40:28 Observer   Zoning is almost always an attempt by an individual or group of individuals to position themselves to some perceived advantage over everyone else. What advantage is this group looking for? It could not possibly be over gas drilling? Nah, never happen. No one in this town would take advantage.
August 27, 2012 20:04:43 Robert Beards   I doubt many believe the Masonville 1st party represents anyone with views even vaguely similar to those expressed on this board. We formed the party last year to find the common ground between the obvious extreme positions. Many long time residents agree with us that being asleep at the wheel instead of making preparations is not a good plan. They just don't seem to care that a newer resident may have said it first. It's just plain sense. Setting aside our state-granted municipal legal tools and letting Albany and deep pocketed vested interests make all the important decisions regarding Masonville's future? Not a good idea. Dreaming of potential economic benefits while doing no planning to position Masonville to best take advantage of them. Not even a plan, really. The town holds the reins, should it let the horse drive?
August 27, 2012 19:30:13 Denis   Reasonable, Thank You.
August 27, 2012 19:03:34 one resident   The important thing to remember when voting is, do you like the way our town is being run now by the town board we have representing us, or do you want zoning and other actions which will change our ways for ever? This should not take a lot of thought, just common sense. Please give this election a lot of thought and do not go by who is running , but by what they stand for with the welfare of our town at risk.
August 27, 2012 11:14:23 Reasonable   Hi Denis - We are all locals and I am sorry for not articulating myself the way I should have. I think \"Home Town\" said it best. It is unfortunate that the minority of individuals that want to take our Town in the wrong direction all happen to be from down-state. I am sorry for broad brushing everyone together. The majority of the down-state folks (or from elsewhere) that have moved here are considered \"locals\" as they share the same \"local\" values and desires as the majority of us here in the Town. This election will actually be more about the future mentality and direction of the Town rather than residents origin. Again, I apologize for this as some of my closest neighbors are friends from elsewhere and I would never would want them offended or anyone else for that matter.
August 27, 2012 07:44:27 Denis Burpoe   Reasonable how do you become a local. Do they vote, how many are there. Can I become one.
August 26, 2012 15:30:29 Observer   I will vote for whom ever puts a sound system in the town meeting room. LOL LOL !!
August 26, 2012 08:06:41 Denis Burpoe   I also will be running for a Town Board seat.I will be knocking on your doors to talk to the People of Masonvill this Fall.
August 26, 2012 07:48:57 Home Town   I think I understand what Reasonable is saying about certain outsiders coming in and taking over. It isnt everyone, heck, some of my best neighbors have moved here from downstate. Many of them moved here for a reason...the same reason why us oldtimers continue to live here...little retrictions and the freedom to love life as we chose with little government interference. The were tired of the NYC mentality and government telling them how tolive their lives, what color their front door should be, etc. and wanted a change! I think we can all agree on that. The folks Reasonable is talking about are not these people but rather a small group of individuals who come into a long-established community and want to change everything. It has happened all over and we cannot let it happen here. These folks represent a very small minority of our community but have the intellegence, arrogance and money to run rough shod over most of us laid bck individuals. I have seen this in action at the Board meetings and it is not pretty. It is clear they want everything their way and do not have the community as a whole in their consideration. Civility and repect is significantly lacking. It is truly appalling to all of us who are brought up with a certain decorum that teaches us to defer to those who clearly have certain earned rights, who are older, etc. We don't bull our way into a new situation and tell the members of the community, organization, etc. how things are going to be from here on in. But they do!! And they do it with impunity! This it intimidates the most people who do not have the time, money and expertise to combat them. But..........we simply have to speak up and act, or it will be too late, as it already is in some places.
August 25, 2012 20:51:00 Reasonable   Observer - I respect and appreciate your opinion and take on the situation. I also agree with you regarding our current leadership. I feel the Town Board has done an awesome job! Although I do not agree with all of his positions on everything, Mr. DuMond during his tenure as supervisor did more for the Town in six years that was ever done in the previous 30! He publically supports Mr. Spaccaforno so as far as I am concerned that is good enough for me. Mr. Roff has long been involved with the Town, many years as Chairman of the Fire Commissioners and also an officer on the Delaware County Sportsman\'s Federation. Like my grandma used to say...\"if it aint broke, dont try fixing it\". I see no reason to do any tinkering with the Town Board and plan to support the incumbants.
August 25, 2012 11:54:39 Observer   Reasonable - I do not know nor have ever met, to the best of my knowledge, any of the three persons you mention. I would reserve any opinion I have of their intentions until I heard from them; which I have not. Of course any resident of Masonville town has the right to run for any office open to election. My personal opinions of those who are now in office or may be thinking of running will be based strictly on whether I think they are capable of doing the job they are seeking. Where they originally come from make little difference to me. I was born and brought up in this general area (Delaware, Chenango, Broome Counties). And yes, I did spend some 12 years living downstate (Long Island) where I made some wonderful friends. As to the "locals" being the only ones who know what is best for the town I have reservations about that. I am 76 years old and I have seen and heard stories of "local leadership" in these small towns over the years and I can assure you that the leadership was not always keeping the citizens of the town they served first in mind. I agree that the Town of Masonville is being well served by the leadership we now have but I know for a fact this was not always so. Past leaders of this town were looking out for themselves first and the town second. As to paying attention to what is going on at town meetings I do not attend many of them due to other obligations on meeting nights and the fact I am very hard of hearing and miss much of what is going on as the board does not use amplification for themselves or for the public but I do receive the town minutes and agendas and I do read them closely. While I know the Town Supervisor is fully within his legal rights by appointing people out of hand to fill vacated positions on the Board I am not a fan of such actions. I do not like appointments to elected offices. But as long as it is legal and proper who am I to judge the motives of doing it. I find the practice smacks to much of the "old crony" scene of years ago. What the motives are behind the things these three people propose I do not know but one thing I am certain of is within a couple of years we are going to have a lot more serious things to consider when we begin to see the large land owners of the area pitted against the renters and small land owners in the gas drilling venture. As soon as the large land owners really realize just how much money is at stake they will like hogs at a feeding trough do their best to drive everyone else out of the trough. So, from that point of view some of the things these "down-staters" propose may make sense; I do not know.
August 24, 2012 21:05:23 Reasonable   Observer - You really need to pay attention to what has been happening at the Board meetings over the last several months. Do you enjoy life in Masonville the way we are accustomed to with little regulation and government oppression? These folks really want to fundementally change our Town and make it more like a down-state community. Please do not get me wrong, I am sure they mean their best and have sincere intentions. In some ways I feel sorry for them because they will never be able to fully comprehend the Town's history or know the background of the generations of family roots established in our community. It isnt that they want bad things...they simply do not see burdensome regulations, redundant laws and government control of peoples freedoms as those of us who have always lived here. This is all they know so it doesnt personally affect them the same way. An elder once told me, "people dont know what they dont know"...which i think is exactly the situation with some of our residents, as well-intentioned as they may be.
August 24, 2012 15:27:57 Observer   I thought the we'un versus them thar or hillbilly against city slicker died out long ago? Good grief 90% of the residents of Delaware county are from someplace "downstate".
August 24, 2012 14:43:25 What!   Reasonable the locals are running? How about these citizens of Masonville who want to serve our town are running. Remember when it comes to voting who cares where you were born but how you want your community to operate in the best interest of everyone.
August 23, 2012 21:54:31 Reasonable   The locals that are running are Mike Spaccaforno, our current supervisor, Craig DuMond, our current Councilman and Steve Roff, long-time local and community member who was just appointed to fill a vacancy on the Board. The following challengers, who are the anti-everything, pro-regulation and pro-zoning are Troy Ramage (running for supervisor), Maria Sroka (running against Craig for Council) and Kathleen Kloptchin (running against Steve Roff for council). These three individuals are running as sheep in wolf's clothing...they are running as independents, however, all have deep down-state radical views and want more laws, more regulations and actually create zoning!!! Maria Sroka and her group have made a mockery out of the Board meetings, disrespecting everyone and basically telling our locals how stupid they are because they dont agree with their views. Supervisor Spaccaforno finally had enough at the last meeting and shut their rhetoric down. This election is probably the most important election in our Town's history! Masonville is one of the very few Towns left in the County without zoning and restrictive land regulations. Many other Town Boards have been flipped by these type of individuals and the locals have seen their Towns radically changed forever. I, for one, will be assiting in any way I can to keep our current Town Board in place and I ask the silent majority to join me. We, the silent majority, can not sit back and take for granted out locals will automatically get elected again this year. GET OUT AND VOTE FOLKS! Your freedom and local property rights literally depend on it!!!
August 22, 2012 12:53:11 Who?   Does any one know who is running for town board this year.
August 20, 2012 22:53:45 bertimouse   Hi what? If everyone had your NIMBY syndrome then where would gas drilling ever happen, eh? We thinks only out West in the big sky country.
August 19, 2012 22:56:26 Craig DuMond   I was very saddened to return home from a week at the Fair and hear the news of Stew's passing. I received an email from him on the 12th and he passed on the 15th. Stew and Betty (DuMond) were community icons for many years. Stew have so freely of himself for the betterment of the Town, School, Church, etc. etc. etc. The world lost one truly great friend and patriot! They do do make them like Stwart anymore! God Bless you and be with Betty and the rest of the family during this most difficult time.
August 18, 2012 07:20:46 Lisa McDonald lisamac@frontier.com Stewart Wilcox and his wonderful wife, Betty, were great friends and the best of neighbors. They have been sorely missed since their move to Syracuse to be closer to family. They taught me much about the essence of the meaning of "neighbor" and "community." That these are not just words...they are an integral foundation of our way of life here in Masonville. RIP, Stewart.
August 17, 2012 19:49:34 Mormon Hollow Farm   Our sympathy to the Wilcox family and friends , the loss of Stewart was the loss of a life long friend.
August 17, 2012 09:13:49 Kathy K klpchn@yahoo.com Just want to express sympathy to the Wilcox family for the passing of Stewart Wilcox. So sorry to hear.
August 17, 2012 08:25:43 Denis Burpoe   Marie your post was interesting but nothing new. All concerned residents in Masonville have been folling the issues of horizontal fracking. I personaly have no gain wether New York State DEC permits it or not. You also stated that fracking is the issue of our times, I would like to disagree. I feel that the issue of our times right now today is the input of herion that is being shipped into our area by other countries and getting our children addicted, How it is destroying familys and lives. This has turned many of our young adults into theives, liars and no use to our communities. Read the papers call you local Sheriff ask the question. Marie we have real problems in all our comunities today and fracking will be addressed but if we do not stand up to the scum that is infusing our communties we will be building bigger jails and burying our future.
August 16, 2012 23:26:04 what?   FYI berti, the facts about the film 'Gasland' is, well it is lacking in facts, much of it has been debunked, some of it is down right lies. Read, New York Times article Groundtruthing Academy Award Nominee 'Gasland' Published: February 24, 2011. I am a anti-fracker, pro-driller, just don't do it in my back yard.
August 16, 2012 20:53:34 bertimouse   To Marie Sroka- Well spoken. HEAR HERE! You sound like a lawyer but we agree that the TOM supers comments, amoung other comments by some here Do Not reflect the majority of those who live here. We All have the right to Vote whether weve lived here for generations or freaking whatever - 2 months? That should not matter for anyone who Loves Masonville. We have no problem with the TOM government, though we disagree sometimes with their decisions. As Denis Burpoe has suggested in some of his posts-let the November Elections reflect the true majority. As other posts have also suggested, just 10 folks showing up at the TOM board mtgs. every month DO NOT represent the entire town. A Town-wide VOTE is the only way to decide anything that is of major importance and impact to the TOM. Remember TOM Board? Nuff Said.
August 16, 2012 20:43:15 bertimouse   To What? - FYI Windmills and Solarpower are the only thing that powers both of my brothers homes in Washington state and Colorado state - both states have more severe winters than we have. We all need to get our heads out of the sands LOL to think outside the Iraq and big corporation gas companies Box which only want to make money off of us all. We have valuable untapped hydro power very much Local which No One seems to be tapping anymore. This is how the TOM was born btw. FREE, TOUGH and INDEPENDENT. You can put this comment into your gas pipeline and smoke it. The new Gas Pipeline is coming thru TOM in 2014 by Federal Domain which many folks are fighting in Sidney Center and Unadilla and Schoharie County but apparently its a losing battle because-Its Federal Domain and -only a Pipeline-Yah right. -Only a matter of time before they tap into that new pipeline with direct gas-fracked wells. The system is already installed in Deposit as you probably know. Any fracking operations can easily now tap into that line, so whatever. We basically agree with your comments as long as its safe but in NYS these Gas Companies have to realize that All Of Us in Our State CARE about what happens to our 1.Drinking Water. 2.Environment. 3.Our Resort-summer income areas as business folks. 4.Our Air. 5.The Future of our children.
August 16, 2012 20:21:04 bertimouse   To Gerald regarding your 8-8-12 post - HEAR HERE! :)
August 16, 2012 20:18:22 bertimouse   To Reasonable-your house seems to choose to divide the TOM against generations here vs. newbies and you quote downstate individuals wanting to trample on our rights-U R dreaming if U think your comments regarding the actual reality of PA and elsewhere are factual. U really need to download the free GASLAND CD. Anyone who has not seen this CD does not know the whole story. We think that Craig Dumond has seen this but wont speak for him.
August 16, 2012 20:13:28 bertimouse   To Robert Beards-regarding your 8-5-12 and 8-7-12 comments-HEAR HERE! Though on 8-7 you assumed that the TOM has all the expertise of all of the knowledge,resources and political connections of Albany. They do not.
August 15, 2012 10:01:59 Marie Sroka   #1. The state has taken a defacto moritorium to put horizontal drilling on hold as it decides what the state should do. The state looks upon moritoriums as a useful tool for municipalities to use while they decide for themselves what they should do (see the very first sentence in land_use_moritoria.pdf). Zoning is not required. Masonville's board has acknowledged that our Comprehensive Plan needs revision. As far as where drilling will occur, Masonville sits on the north-east corner of what is known as the "Prime Fairway" of the Marcellus. The shale layer is 100'-150' thick here. And under that is the Utica shale. Drilling here is only a matter of time. #2. Around 150 municipalities have already passed moritoriums or even, outright bans. Not a single moritorium has ever been challenged in court. Two bans were challenged in court, both challenges were struck down, and it appears that there will be no appeals as the window is nearly closed for that. Those two NY state judicial decisions (over 'bans') that specifically considered the matter have unequivocally held (i) New York municipalities wishing to do so have the legal authority to pass local laws of general applicability to prohibit gas drilling activities within their municipal borders, (ii) such local laws are NOT ‘regulations’ within the meaning of ECL 23-­‐0303(2), and (iii) accordingly such local laws are NOT preempted by or otherwise ‘illegal’ under ECL 23-­‐0303(2). There are no legal fees for non-existant challenges. And, by the way, what about the possibility of suits over not enacting a moritorium? Those cost the same amount. #3. I'm sure the Board, including yourself, loves Masonville and believes it is on the right path here. Nonetheless, the opinion represented by the Masonville 1st party is that there are many things that can and should be done without delay, so that Masonville will be in the best position possible to both take advantage of the opportunities and minimize the risks that horizontal extraction and it's allied activities WILL bring to our town. In fact, doing nothing jeapordizes the town's best interest. If you think horizontal extraction is years away, then surely a one-year moritorium to protect us while we update our comprehensive plan will not be keeping anybody from a gas royalty check. It will however, protect the town from expensive litigation over "takings" should we attempt to adjust our town law once a permit is issued here. Your comments over 50-60% of Masonville being in a restricted area only serve to confuse the issue. Horizontal extraction is the issue of our times, it is coming here, it will bring many issues with it and everyone (in the watershed or out) will be effected. We should study these issues and prepare ourselves asap. That is the job of the town board.
August 14, 2012 14:08:32 MIKE SPACCAFORNO   I would like to thank everyone who participated in this discussion on drilling. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail in any future discussions. This debate is also about personal freedoms and the right to make your own decisions on matters that concern you and your family, without government interference. My thoughts are there is no sensible reason in passing a Moratorium on drilling since: #1. The State is still deciding what to do and it looks like even if they approve drilling it will be in 5 counties west of here, not Delaware County. #2. If the Town passes a Moratorium, there is a good chance that the Town will have to defend the law in court either against a landowner that wants drilling on their property or against a gas company that wants to drill in the area, or both. Insurance companies have refused to cover cost of these litigation's thus far and the towns that are in court are either using budget reserves(of which we are at a minimum) or raising funds(taxes) from residents to pay legal fees. To myself and the Board, neither one is a good option. #3. The regulation that the state has made public prohibits drilling in the NY City watershed, plus a 4000 ft. buffer all around it. That eliminates about 50%-60% of Masonville. That means 50-60% of Masonville is inside the restricted area and drilling will be prohibited. The eastern half of the Town is completely off the grid for drilling. As I said in #1, the good money is betting that the State will only approve drilling in 5 counties. Delaware is not one of those five. Even if they do release the law as written, I am sure the State will have to defend it in court. There will be years of further delays for even those 5 counties. The risk of having to ask taxpayers to defend a suit against a Moratorium makes no sense to the Board and me. 50% - 60% of our town is a part of that NYC watershed that will have to share the costs of that defense. In conclusion, why rush into something and try to make decisions on items that we have no positive knowledge about? This is a logical, thought out conclusion and not a whimsical knee-jerk reaction to the feelings of a few. We all live in and love this Town. Our children and grandchildren will hopefully live and work and raise their children here. We (the Board) will always protect and defend it, and never do anything to jeopardize its well-being. Mike Spaccaforno, Supervisor
August 09, 2012 08:02:43 what?   Liar, it's still there.
August 09, 2012 07:20:07 Chicken little   THE SKY IS FALLING !!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
August 09, 2012 00:20:50 what?   Concrete cracks, this is a fact, metal cracks, this is a fact, natural gas well heads are not going to be 100% safe, this is a fact. Windmills and solar panels are not going to fulfill our needs, also a fact, I guess windmills are not 100% safe either. Continuing to get our energy needs from countries that hate us is also not safe, also a fact. We have been, and continue to jeopardize our future, and the future of our children by relying on foreign countries, and countries that hate us to survive. Our National Govt. isn't working, Obama definitely isn't working, also facts. $15 trillion, that is how much the United States has borrowed, and how much we have to pay interest on. To put $15 trillion, almost $16, in perspective, our national debt is larger than the total economies of China, the United Kingdom, and Australia combined.And under current policies, our national debt will continue to grow by hundreds of billions every year.According to the Congressional Budget Office, the national debt held by the public will grow by more than $6 trillion over the next decade. We need to look at all options, I don't like it either, I'm still a pro-driller, antifracker, but we need to look towards a future.
August 08, 2012 22:25:21 Reasonable   Firstly we dont even know IF it is going to happen! It will definately NOT happen in the NYC watershed, which already takes out 1/3 of the Town. As the Board has stated at the meetings, there is no need to be hypervigilant here as local laws can quickly be established to protect roads, etc. and anything else that may not be covered by th NYS laws...which are VERY RESTRICTIVE and comprehensive. As it is said, the rad to hell is paved with good intentions. Many municipalities opened pandora's box with some "good intentioned" zoning laws...the next thing you know you wake up hving the governmment telling you how high to keep your grass and what color your house should be. The members of our Town Board have a vested and historical interest in out Town...all, except for Mike who is a life-long resident, have families who have been here for generations. Three are active farmers and our suervisor s a very sucessful businessman. In my humble opinion, none of these individuals would ever do anything to hurt this Town as all have a vested interest in the Town's future. To insinuate they are ignorant or foolish or have their heads in the sand concerning this issue is disrespectful to them to say the least. I know all of them and know they are genuine, stand up local people who do not deserve the disrepsectful and arrogant mudslinging being portrayed by Masonville 1st. Dont worry Town Board, we the silent majority will speak loud and clear come November. Masonville 1st sealed their fate with their little stunts such as attempting to make a mockery out of Board meetings as well as soliciting the press in their endeavors.
August 08, 2012 19:07:11 Robert Beards   It's important to understand that we are not at all arguing whether horizontal wells are safe. Some probably are and some maybe less so. All Masonville 1st is asking is: "Shouldn't Masonville take a hand in determining its own future?" We should not be wasting any time "doing nothing", but instead we should prepare to maximize the good potential and minimize the risks to the town's quality of life. There are serious time constraints if we want to reserve our town's rights. The opportunity is now.
August 08, 2012 17:36:35 Reasonable   Actually, the outcome in PA has been grossly exagerated. A few times now I have heard at Board meetings and heard some of them have drove down to Dimmock, PA, the heart of the controversy. It was reported reported that everyone spoke to had nothing but positive things to say. The jobs and affect on the local economy were a huge boost. The claims of water contamination were made up (by some of the radical anti-drillers, again, spindoctering) and the water actually tested fine. The cases where people could light their water on fire? The methane was present before drilling and folks could have done the same thing for the last 100 years. NY doesnt allow evaporation pits...every once of frack water is pumped to and rom the drill point within a steel and concrete encase drill shaft. The used water, again every once, is pumped into secure stainless steel containers and trucked to a local water treatment facility where it is treated and returned to the river...actually completely safe to drink! Wow, if they can treat raw sewage and return it safely to the river I am confident fracking water can be treated the same way. Especially if our radical, business killing, environmental friendly NYS DEC says it is safe! My Goodness!!! The truth (not spin) will set us free!
August 08, 2012 17:26:49 Gerald   If the drilling cannot be done safely then it shouldnt be done.If they can do it safely and no ones water is effected then let it happen. We all have heard the outcome in Pennsylvania and we dont need that to happen here.....
August 08, 2012 11:09:26 Denis Burpoe   Grumpy you gotta get spell check on here.
August 07, 2012 16:21:54 Robert Beards   Actually, neither Marie nor I went to the press. We did not have someone do it on our behalf either. We were quite surprised to be called by a reporter who had questions. And I was misquoted. Personally, I think Mike is a very personable, good guy and an asset to Masonville. We just are in disagreement right now.
August 07, 2012 15:16:15 Denis Burpoe   Robert it sounds like Masonville did do what was best for Masonville,Apparently you and Masonville 1st did not like the determination that was made in the best interest of Masonville. So what did you do you threw our Supervisor under the bus went to the press and the outcome has not and will not change until DEC makes there final decision.Please remember in a democracry the decision by our elected officials can not and will not satisfy all. By not voting in a moratorium a small portion of our residents are unhappy so what did they do they ran to the media to try to get our board to vote their way.I do not think that it will work. Please let our DEC do their work and wait for the results.
August 07, 2012 14:04:49 Reasonable   "conservative and prudent"...typical verbage spinmastering from the left. Dont fall for it folks!
August 07, 2012 12:07:58 Robert Beards   Denis, As many times as I've heard the Board complain about Albany making decisions that Masonville winds up suffering under, it's amazing that all of a sudden we would assume Albany will now make decisions for Masonville that are as good or better as ones we would make for ourselves. This setback issue is only one example of a concern Masonville should have. NY Statute hands Masonville the legal framework to determine for itself what is best. Masonville should exercise that right. It is only conservative and prudent for a town to look after itself.
August 07, 2012 11:37:00 Denis Burpoe   listen I have been reading all of the input on this page. Now there is a State wide moratorium on high volume fracking in New York State until the DEC evaluates the risks and determines whether it can devolope a plan that is fully protective of public health and the enviroment. There remain too many questions that must be answered and too many healh and eviromental issues that must be resolved for the state to consider moving foward now with any plans to frack- weather in limited portions of the MarcellusShale region or otherwise. I have done a lot of work with the DEC and they take their work serious. They have no political agenda just the responsabilty to the people and the enviroment. We are in good hands and I will trust the judgement of our DEC. Also the town of Masonville board has done their due dilagence and made the right decision we now need to wait for New York State to determine wether fracking will be allowed and what restictions will be implemented. Again Mike Spacaforno that you for doing the work of all the people of Masonville and when the time comes I am sure you will also make th right decision.
August 07, 2012 10:24:46 Robert Beards   As an example, if your home is 560\' from a boundary line as specified in part (a), a well head could be placed 100\' away from the other side of your home. That would satisfy both the 660\' and 100\' minimum requirements as they now stand. There is no draft proposal at the DEC to change this situation.
August 07, 2012 10:12:00 Robert Beards   That 660' requirement is the proscribed minimum distance from certain boundaries, not from residences. Spacing Unit Boundaries are determined by the gas companies, and they are not based on property boundaries, lease boundaries, roads or fence lines. Unit boundaries can be changed, even after wells are started. The gas companies determine the units to a great degree by the geology of the shale and the limits imposed by neighboring units. A unit boundary can go along a property line, can go right through the middle of a property, or through a small part of a property - whether these properties are leased or not. If you are included in a unit via compulsory integration there are many scenarios under which you may end up with a well head only 100' from your residence and no negotiating power to change that.
August 07, 2012 08:25:35 what?   Please explain, how can a wellhead be 100' from a home when it has to be 660' from a boundary line? To me that means at a minimum the wellhead would be 660' from a home if the home is set exactly on the property line, which most are not. Keep in mind , no matter what the setback, we all share the same veins of water that could possibly be affected, accidents can and do happen. And also, when the drilling begins and our property values go down because of it does that mean our taxes will go down accordingly because of our devalued property? Might be a good thing for us locals who plan on living here the rest of our lives, as long as the water filters work.
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