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November 05, 2012 15:45:20 Observer   Pakistani girl burned to death with acid because she was flirting with a boy. These are the people Obama wants to cozy up to. Think about it when you vote tomorrow.
November 05, 2012 15:34:19 Observer   Tom that is an interesting fact. I wonder if some of the leases filed with the County are leases from years ago? Now you got me wondering so I will do some looking around myself. Thank you for you reply.
November 05, 2012 15:31:59 tommy klehr observer, the only lists i could find online are the one from the daily star archive (listing 5 leases) and the link you sent. one list i have from the county clerk has 30 leases in masonville.
November 05, 2012 15:19:34 Observer   Tom - Are the documents from the county clerk any different that those published in the Star and on the net? Thanks.
November 05, 2012 15:17:49 tommy klehr voter, i have a copy of some docs from Delhi county clerk's office. send me a private email and i'll send it to you.
November 05, 2012 14:25:14 Observer   Voter does this help? - Vincent Denigris Michael and Karen Patrick Gloria Pieske Larry and Robin Schaefer Dale Wagner
November 05, 2012 14:19:37 Observer   Voter - Look OR look in the Oneonta Daily Star Archives.
November 05, 2012 14:13:32 voter   I can't find the list of who sold thier mineral rights where else can I look?
November 05, 2012 14:05:09 Observer   Polls Open 6 AM EST and close 9 PM EST
November 05, 2012 13:45:38 j. lindberg   ?. what time does masonville voting open in the am tomorrow.?
November 05, 2012 11:23:53 Observer   I note that the USGS recorded a 2.0 earthquake in New Jersey. Are they sure it was not just Gov. Christie stampeding across the platform to embrace Obama?
November 05, 2012 11:22:06 tommy klehr Dear Mr. DuMond, Let me begin by stating that I have never questioned the intelligence of any of the residents of Masonville. Rather, I question whether or not they have actually taken the time to learn the facts or if they are simply relying on that which people in authority tell them. In your role as a town Councilman, you, Mr. DuMond, are a person in a position of authority. For me, it is no longer an issue of whether to frack or not to frack... it is the issue of transparency in town government coupled with conflicts of interest. I am not calling into question your character, Mr. DuMond; I am questioning whether or not you did, in fact, watch Truthland—the movie you recommended I watch to answer my questions regarding the fracking issue. I am curious to know why you would tell me to watch this movie when, in fact, it is very clear that you have not watched it yourself. Had you actually watched it, Mr. DuMond, you would have realized the filmmaker was a woman—not the man to whom you continously referred. Rather than blindly relying on other people's statements, I have searched for answers myself. In my quest for information, I have spent countless hours researching fracking using the internet, talking to people on both sides of the issue, searching for land leases in Masonville and even driving down to Dimock six months ago to “see” things for myself (as you suggested). While I didn't see much in Dimock at that time, I was especially eager to return when Mr. Shepstone offered a tour of some fracking sites at his October 3rd Town Council presentation. I signed up—but have been greatly disappointed as this tour never came to fruition. I do not doubt your sincerity, Mr. DuMond, when you say "The direction of this Town, County, State and Country is of most importance to the very fabric of everything I hold dear." I share your concerns, however, the end does not justify the means. Finally, while I applaud and thank not only you, but all veterans for defending my freedom, your service has no bearing on your current position as a town council member. With all due respect, you are no longer a serviceman, rather, you now serve the people of Masonville. WE are your commanding officer.
November 05, 2012 10:38:36 a reader   Hope the people of Masonville will take into consideration that the current town board has kept Masonville in good standing and spends no time with trying to scare our citizens with ideas of gas drilling,instead they give the facts of what a moratorium and zoning will mean in the future. Many of us work hard and very long hours each day and may not see retirement and large checks each month for the years we have worked, so give us a chance to run our town the way it has always worked. It is good that some have retired from good jobs and decided to enjoy this town, but please do not try to change it or you then will want to leave and go somewhere else because you now do not like us. Please vote for the current board members: Spacaforno, Dumond and Roff they will get the job done right!!!!!!! Thank you
November 05, 2012 10:00:15 Observer   People - come on now! If you have problems spelling please use a spell correction app or at least a dictionary. It is difficult to put much stock in a posting that is filled with spelling and grammatical errors. Yes, I know the usage of the English language is totally different these days but lets not have it happen on this board.
November 05, 2012 09:52:28 HUH!!!   Tomorrow is E-DAY VOTE EARLY AND VOTE OFTEN!!!
November 05, 2012 03:42:18 NRA   Very well put Craig. Me and my family will be voting for what is write with Masonville. Rsidents of Masonville you need not look any further than your world history books to see that Masonville first wants to take all of your rights away first your right to live off the land that you own pay for and work hard to support your family off. Next will be your right to bear arms then they will want a moratorium to ration your food and fuel useses.Then over the years they will push to have you use documents to move around the county so they can monitor your movement.And to pay for all thier demands your tax base will be 75% of your salery. People Masonville first is preaching communisium and socialism not freedom. I will be voting for our veterans that are running.Craig,Mike and Denis.They know what it takes to serve a country.
November 05, 2012 01:21:38 Lisa   The kindling is now claimed. No more calls, please. Thanks!
November 04, 2012 21:25:36 Voter Too!   I think the moratorium vote, as well as the direction of our town, will be decided Tuesday.
November 04, 2012 20:55:08 bertimouse   Dear Craig, Have no fear Sir and Residents of TOM:any moratorium on gas or zoning should be a special Tom-WIDE Vote,right?-Let all of us speak for ourselves.It should be answered by all of us now. Peace.
November 04, 2012 20:19:59 Craig DuMond   Mr. Klehr - I stand by what I have told you. I trust the citizens of our Town much more than the folks of Masonville 1st. These people of this Town I have known and grown up with my whole life are smarter than you think. You see the landowners, farmers, blue stone men and loggers have respected the land and have been trusted stewards of the land for generations. They have the most at stake as they depend on the land to provide a living for their families as well as jobs for others. I trust them as well as the independent scientists who have faithfully studied this topic. More importantly, I am scared as hell about where moratoriums and zoning may take our Town in the future. The entire County s slowly dying. The last thing we need is further restrictions and government intrusion in people's lives. Have you ever served abroad or had a relative serve abroad in harm's way? It surely gives you a different perspective on freedom, rights and liberty? Have you ever risked all to defend the freedoms we take for granted? I can tell you I have and this is something I do not take lightly. The direction of this Town, County, State and Country is of most importance to the very fabric of everything I hold dear. I am sorry for having a different opinion from you and the rest of Masonville 1st. You have the right to your opinion as well as I do mine. I have never made insulting comments or questioned the content of anyone's personal character here or anywhere else. I respectfully as for the same consideration.
November 04, 2012 20:13:11 Robert Beards   This phrase ("what is $500 dollars a month going to do for anyone") is an outright lie told by someone with an apparent complete and utter disregard for the truth.
November 04, 2012 20:01:07 WOW   Robert Beards, husband of Marie Sroka, as well as Tommy Klur and all the masonville 1st just dont understand the community they moved into. Mr. beard's condescending tone on this message board illustrates his and his wifes conduct at board meetings...they act like us country hicks are not sophisticated enough to understand how to make informed decisions on our own and we desperately need the enlightenment of masonville 1st to show us the way. $500 dollars per month no big deal? Thats more than some people make a week in masonville. I am making phone calls tomorrow...these people cannot take over our town.
November 04, 2012 20:00:20 bertimouse   WOW so much talk here-Everyone knows who they will vote for by now,so Happy Voting Yall!-Buckle UpandDown for Wednesday night=Our First Real Nor-Easter they say.It makes sense to be prepared even if it turns out to be a Dudd.
November 04, 2012 19:53:52 Maintain our Rights   The facts are that any moratorium will not be held up without zoning if the Town is taken to Court. Masonville 1st in their zest to get a moratorium will spare no expense litigating this with the State or gas industry and the taxpayers will be the ones on the hook. After all, they have made it clear that $500 a month on taxes is no big deal..."what is $500 dollars a month going to do for anyone". What's another $500 per month to fight for a moratorium? This is the most scary part of the direction Masonville may take the Town! First we open the door with a moratorium, then we go to zoning, then we complain about noise (tractors and trucks), then roads (again, tractors and trucks) and the next thing you know you need a permit to paint your house or a ruler to measure your lawn. Enough is enough already! I sure hope the public shows up Tuesday and votes loud and clear and finally puts an end to this craziness!
November 04, 2012 19:39:47 Land Owner   I read the post by Robert Beards, husband of Marie Sokora, who is running for town council as part of the Masonville 1st group.   Robert explains what a moratorium is and how it would work. It would be a temporary suspension of our property rights for some undetermined period of time. Robert sums up by saying "That's all it is"  "Do you still not understand" I understand only to well. I, as a land owner, who has bought and paid for my land, as well as paid my property taxes, would prefer to keep my property rights. Having my rights taken from me, for even 1 minute, is unexceptable. If Robert can't see the problem of  taking our property rights away from the people of Masonville , even on a temporary basis, it would seem to me that perhaps  robert has a weak moral compass and is unable to tell the difference between right and wrong!  In Roberts case maybe he should surrender his rights to Marie and the Masonville 1st group and let them make decisions for him. I would prefer to make my own decisions regarding my property! After all it is mine!  
November 04, 2012 18:14:17 NRA   Mr. beards after takimg our land rights what is next our right to bear arms
November 04, 2012 16:58:35 Robert Beards   Observer, you are absolutely correct that a moratorium is not a prerequisite to formulating some sort of proper regulations. We plan on hitting the ground running, immediately looking into what regulations would be desirable from Masonville's point of view, and the townspeople will certainly have their say in the process. A moratorium is only a tool (as well as the only tool) to preserve a specific allotment of time (usually just a single year), so the town will have the time needed to get its "ducks in a row" and complete the process before permits are issued.
November 04, 2012 16:02:53 Observer   PS - The fact the cases I read were dealing with zoning already in place leads me to believe a moratorium without zoning would not be upheld by the courts. I could be wrong, and often am, but from my view that is what would happen. As I said I am not a lawyer just an old codger who has been around politics long enough to see what can and does happen.
November 04, 2012 15:53:14 Observer   Robert Beards - Thank you for your reply. Yes, I read the document you mentioned and yes it seems to be clear enough. But, as I tried to say (may not have been very articulate) I was interested in how the courts in NYS interpreted it. As I said I could not find any court rulings on gas drilling. Most of the rulings were dealing with zoning already in place in one fashion or other. As neither side of this issue in Masonville claims to want zoning I am still at a loss as to why the town board, the present one, or the one who will take office after elections, cannot begin to formulate some sort of regulations dealing with the issue rather than pursuing a long drawn out mitigation in the courts. Which is what it will turn out to be in the end.
November 04, 2012 14:41:14 Robert Beards   Observer you state: "Searching around I find a lot of information on moratoria and almost all if has to do with changing or upgrading some sort of zoning." Your search should probably start and end with the document "Land Use Moratoria", the official NY State technical series guide written in plain english specifically for local municipal boards to understand land use moratoria. ITS VERY FIRST SENTENCE reads: "A land use moratorium is a local enactment which temporarily suspends a landowner’s right to obtain development approvals while the community considers and potentially adopts changes to its comprehensive plan and/or its land use regulations to address new circumstances not addressed by its current laws." That's all it is. Do you really still not understand?
November 04, 2012 14:15:09 Observer   While gas drilling in NYS is common and has been around for many years the method called "fracking" is a new phenomena to the residents of this state. And because it is new and unknown we tend to fear that we do not understand. Searching around I find a lot of information on moratoria and almost all if has to do with changing or upgrading some sort of zoning. While I am not a lawyer (thank you God) I cannot find any incidents of the courts ruling on a moratorium on gas drilling. The one thing I do find is the ruling by the courts any moratorium must be applied equally to all. It cannot place the burden on a few. The courts also rule that it must be for a stated attainable purpose for a stated reasonable time for the good of the community as a whole. Now the thing that trouble me about the group asking for a moratorium is the fact their reasons are so general. They state they want the moratoria to allow for breathing room to figure out how to handle the problem of drilling and how it is going to impact the area. Well, this is all and good but, that could take forever before there is agreement among the parties. This fact alone would place an undue burden on those who would act to allow drilling on their legally owned property. Would it not make more sense for the voters to take a referendum to the Town Board asking them to immediately take steps to handle the problem? There is disagreement as to whether zoning must be in place to enact any moratoria on anything. I am not smart enough to understand the minutia of such laws but I do know that any such actions as moratoria is a first step to zoning. I also know that zoning, in almost all cases, is not for the good of the majority but bowing to the desires of a few. In all the case rulings I read (which were quite a few) zoning was already in effect. This alone leads me to believe that while a few courts have ruled that moratoria can be instituted under the police powers of the town board it would be a long drawn out court process to institute an acceptable moratorium on gas drilling as it has not been tested in the courts. As the problem can be handled now by any elected Town Board what is the motive behind wanting a moratorium on drilling? Why not get busy now? Have the town board appoint a committee to look into the legalities of controlling drilling and what we can do to protect ourselves from damage and harm in the future.
November 04, 2012 14:08:52 concerned voter   Never hurts to hope for the best!!
November 04, 2012 13:36:31 Observer   Concerned Voter - I too am seeing a rift developing in the town. But, this comes as no surprise. There is bound to be rifts, disagreements etc. over any subject as sensitive as this "Gas Drilling" subject. I seen this coming waaaay back when I attended a meeting of the committee that was working on the Comprehensive Plan. It became immediately obvious that there was a fight shaping up. The election is not going to end it.
November 04, 2012 13:23:58 concerned voter   Hopefully the name calling and nonsense will end by Tues night. We always have been a great town and it feels like things are going the other way right now. We have many residents that feel they are higher educated than us and can run the town better, hope all think about the past and future of our town and vote for the current town board.
November 04, 2012 13:12:58 Observer   Tom - It does not preserve formatting because from a technical point of view it is supposed to be limited to a paragraph of input for each message. Of course none of us abide by that, including yours truly. :)
November 04, 2012 13:00:29 tommy klehr i really wish the message board would preserve formatting
November 04, 2012 12:59:35 tommy klehr Mr. DuMond, Thank you for responding to my request. In the two weeks that has passed since I asked for this information, I have done some of my own investigating. I was hoping to find more specific documents & web sites that you have used to form your opinion. Supervisor Spaccaforno lent me a copy of TruthLand a few weeks ago. I have watched it twice in that time and I do not agree with your summary of the film, specifically your statement that the farmer has "no agenda." 1. The farmer already has one well on the farm. (~2:40 "Already drilled one well on our land.") 2. The farmer states that "we could have as many as 10 wells" on the farm (~1:10). 3. The film was paid for by the gas industry and their supporters (33:27 "(c) Energy in Depth"; 33:48 "And, Truthland was funded by various natural gas companies."; 34:06 "Special thanks to the JOINT LANDOWNERS COALITION OF NEW YORK, INC. for providing landowner support necessary to produce this movie.") Doing a quick google of "truthland" I found a few interesting items, though I can not vouch for their veracity: Research has revealed that there is trouble in truth land. One of the Depue wells (8H) is severely flawed with a bubbling annulus. An annulus is the cemented layer between layers of steel, you know, the one that 'never leaks' and can survive cannon-type explosions as seen toward the end of the "Truthland" movie. Two more of the Depue wells (2H and 6H) have Pennsylvania DEP violations, which are shown below. Needless to say, it's not going nearly as well as all the "experts" interviewed in the Truthland movie led Shelly to believe it would! In Truthland, a mother concerned about gas drilling on her property goes out on an adventure in search of the truth about gas drilling and comes back home with a rosy picture of safe, reliable natural gas. Since filming, the woman’s well was cited by DEP inspectors last year for improper casing , the cement-encased sleeves that protect well bore from the earth's surface. WPX, the driller of the Depue wells, is being sued by a nearby family over methane contamination. Finally, and with all due respect Mr. DuMond, I question whether or not you have actually watched this film. Besides the points above, the farmer to which you refer in your summary... he is actually a woman named Shelly DePue. tommy From: "DuMond, Craig & Karleen" <> To: Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Info Hi, Tom - I appreciate you sharing your concerns with me at the meet and greet. I understand you are concerned about water qualtiy and the future. I told you I would forward you the information I have researched regarding the drilling issue. The best independent research is from the NYS Environmental Conservation website. There is tons of information regarding the science related to drilling and hype. There is tons and tons of stuff on the internet. I have a copy of a DVDF called "truthland" which was a documentary made by a farmer with no agenda who set out on his own quest to determine if signing a gas lease would be appropriate. He had the same concerns about water quality as you do and his family had farmed the land for literally generations. You see, the best stewards of our land are the farmers...they make their livings off the land and have raised generations of families on the land. In my opinion, they are the experts as well as the scientists. I would be happy to loan you the DVD if you would like to see it. I still stand by Tom Shepstone as well as the CMP that was made by our citizens. I reject the idea of Masonville 1st who apparently feel the citizens of this town are too ignorant to inform themselves and make appropriate decisions concerning the matters at hand. Respectfully, Craig
November 04, 2012 10:32:13 ooooo   Yeah, that what masonville needs...another bob mccarthy (sidney) representing the town on the county board. thats what we will get if troy ramege is our next supervisor! i am voting for mike s.
November 04, 2012 08:49:17 Lisa   I have a nice pile of good kindling wood if anyone wants it. From a huge lilac tree that blew over. It's really dried through nicely and it's good hard wood for burning--lasts a long time. Tarp I had on it partially folded over yesterday, so it got a little wet, but that doesn't matter. It's in 3-4 ft. lengths and it would easily fit in the back of a larger SUV and really easy in a pick-up. You can come and get it. Call me at 265-3413.
November 04, 2012 07:42:51 aesop   Once upon a time there was a magpie struttiing atop a huge pile of manure.As it strutted and cackled and declared "everything you see here is mine to rule over" Mr Dumond is that magpie!
November 04, 2012 05:31:45 xxxxxx   tommy if you do not thnink that you will be represented by the board now wait until you vote in troy as your supervisor can't wait to have him represent the town at the county level.
November 03, 2012 19:22:07 what?   I have been mostly anti-fracking. Lately I have thought a little more about it. tommy klehr do you walk to work, buy food at a grocery store or toilet paper etc. Whether we like it or not our daily lives revolve around fuel. Even solar panel and wind mill production can not be possible without fuel. I think we need to stop being hypocrites and telling people what they can and can\'t do with their property they bought and pay taxes on. We need to stop being hypocrites enjoying everything that fuel gives us, and wanting the rest of our country to supply it for us (not in my back yard but it is OK for all the rest of the states to drill and ship it to NY), or buy it from countries that hate us.
November 03, 2012 19:20:04 what?   Actually Observer Obama tried to change the Constitution with his unConstitutional Obamacare mandate of forced to buy healthcare. The Supreme Court ruled that it was legal as long as their fine was called a tax. If you choose not to or can't afford health care you will be charged a tax for the penalty.
November 03, 2012 17:35:05 tommy klehr Let me begin by saying that I care deeply about the town of Masonville and it is for this reason I write today. Masonville is a small community currently governed by the team of Jeri Brayman, Craig Dumond, Steve Roff, and Betty Scott, led by Supervisor Mike Spaccaforno. While I find this current board friendly enough, I have considerable concerns regarding the issues of fracking, transparency and conflicts of interest. Recently, the Masonville Town Board invited Tom Shepstone from Energy In Depth Northeast Marcellus Initiative to present at a town board meeting. His presentation was biased, obviously, and he told everyone up front about that. However, the presentation was unfair to the town since an opposing viewpoint was not presented. Supervisor Spaccaforno stated to me that this was, in fact fair, since for the last months-to-year the audience floor time has been used to talk about the other side. I don't agree with Mr. Spaccaforno on this, since Mr. Shepstone's appearance was requested by the council. I asked if Mr. Spaccaforno would have another presentation before the election, in order to better educate the voters. Not till after the election, was his response. Yet back in August Supervisor Spaccaforno promised to have a presentation by both sides of the issue. Mr. Shepstone helped the town write the Masonville Comprehensive Master Plan in 2008. When Mr. Shepstone gave his recent presentation on October 3rd, he held up the CMP as evidence that the town wants to preserve the individual landowner's rights for drilling. Yet the survey on which CMP was based has no reference to drilling. The references to drilling that are in the CMP are recommendations that Mr. Shepstone added. Mr. Shepstone now represents the gas & oil industry. I ask once again if his involvement is a conflict of interest? Supervisor Spaccaforno has told me privately that he has not made up his mind about drilling. Yet he has a pro-drilling sign in front of his house in Trout Creek. Mr. Spaccaforno has also stated, in a town council meeting, that he would not support a moratorium even if a large portion of the population wants one. At the Republican Meet & Greet session a few weeks ago, I asked Councilman Dumond for references to the information on which he has formed his opinions, to which he agreed. He has still to send them to me. [Mr. Dumond did email me a response this afternoon – two weeks after my request.] I also asked him if he was aware of any gas leases in Masonville. He stated, quite unequivocally, that he is unaware of any gas leases. Having heard that there are, in fact, a number of leases in town, I did some research. Very quickly I found a map online which shows land in Masonville with leases. I also found an article in the Daily Star from 2008 listing 5 landowners in Masonville with leases. I spent a few hours yesterday afternoon in the county clerk's office in Delhi and found 30 Masonville landowners with leases. These go back to 2001. I find it quite hard to believe that Mr. Dumond, having spent 12 years serving Masonville, is unaware of any of these leases. I'll let you draw your own conclusions. Two of our current board members have gas leases. Another board member's close family has a lease. Are these conflicts of interest? Council members have used the word "zoning" to scare voters from pursuing a moratorium. According to the Land Use Moratoria document and Judge Lebous's recent ruling, zoning is not required for a moratorium. "It is clear that a municipality can enact laws pursuant to its police powers to protect the health, safety and welfare of its citizens, and it does not have to do so through a zoning law." [p11-12 Judge Lebous's ruling] In conclusion, I believe that the current town council members do not represent me or my views for the future of Masonville. I will be voting for the new team from the Masonville First Party: Kathy Klopchin, Troy Ramage, and Marie Sroka. The unofficial Masonville message board can be found here: The 2008 article from the Daily Star can be found here: A map showing gas leases in Delaware county (as of January 2012) can be found here: The CMP and survey results can be found here: The Land Use Moratoria document can be found here: The text of the Judge Lebous's ruling can be found here:
November 03, 2012 17:11:16 Observer   I just looked up the US Constitution of the United States to see if it had been changed by Obama yet. I was pleasantly surprised to find that it still starts out "WE THE PEOPLE". I am not sure how much longer it will say that but lets take advantage of the that while we may. VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE ON TUESDAY!!
November 03, 2012 15:33:47 Observer   If you have not viewed the video entitled "The Determinator Movie" I urge you to do so. It is a video that exposes the true intent of the so called "Obamacare act". We Americans MUST deliver to our representatives the ultimatum to repeal this worse than socialized medicine. The "one payer" system will become a way of controlling every aspect of our daily lives. To see the video just type "The Determinator Movie" into your search engine. Several will come up and at least one will feature the entire video.
November 03, 2012 13:30:33 citizen   Hope all will reassess the idea of voting M. Soroka in as a board member. From what I can see she is the most disrespectful person I have seen at public meetings in years. Since she has only one concern, gas drilling, that means she will spend the entire time, if elected, finding fault and doing nothing constructive for our town. As for K.Kolopchin, she feels that videoing meetings to check any error our board makes is the only thing to do. All of her comments have also been drilling. And T. Ramage just does not show at meetings for any reason. Do you really want these people to run our town????? Hope everyone thinks before they vote for this group. Vote for the team representing us now, Spacaforno, Roff and Dumond we know what they can do and have done!!!!!!!
November 03, 2012 12:59:34 what?   I agree Observer, Steam Mill is just a typical road, it's not that bad at all. It is not a street in a town and never will be perfect. Like I said before,I drove over Sherman Hill rd from Sidney Center to Franklin, both have a larger tax base than Masonville. Over 20 nice houses (not a camp, or maybe someday a house or two like Shears rd)on the part of the road that is ALL DIRT.People should stop whining. I live on a County maintained road. It looks paved, but is tar and stone, and is redone every couple of years. When they have put it off for three years it gets really rough. I imagine the cost to the taxpayer is astronomical just to maintain this one stretch of road. It's not like they pave once and the cost is done with, our roads cost us tons of money to maintain , even the state roads. If your road is rough, or missing shoulders, slow down.
November 03, 2012 11:30:47 Observer   Denis- I think "Smooth Roads" is referring to roads where "officials" live not necessarily an "official list" kept somewhere by someone. I have been following the chat about the roads in Masonville; so I took a trip from one end of Steam Mill to the other. I did not see that it was any worse or better than the average Town or County maintained road. If one considers these roads are rural in nature and not super highways then one can understand that they are not meant for high speed travel. For that matter the State maintained highway (206) through the hamlet is not exactly the Autobahn. The state "patched" the holes only to make them worse in some ways.
November 03, 2012 10:08:16 steam mill   traveller is right. complaints about highways should go to the highway supervisor. The board does not direct the highway activities...that is what the highway supervisor is for. I have actually observed some differences between the board and highway supervisor at some meetings. However, mr smith has said at board meetings that Steam mill is going to be fixed and that it is a priority. people really should come to the board meetings and become more informed.
November 03, 2012 09:59:16 just another voter   I was wondering how many meetings Mr. Burpoe has attended in the last few years,(10 or more) I do not recall seeing him at more than 4-5 meetings, this really should show all of us his interest in our town is not a priority nor does he understand how the town is run.
November 03, 2012 09:53:53 traveller   When you work on a road in the fall\winter that is what happens, maybe all should have lived with the potholes and been happy, this should show not everyone can be pleased! If there was money to do the work it probably would have been done in the summer. Instead of complaining on this board call Mr. Smith and speak to him.
November 03, 2012 09:32:25 Just Wondering 2   Mr. Burpoe, what is your political affiliation? Are you registered with a particular party with the board of elections?
November 03, 2012 09:05:00 Getting angry   So as it stands right now as you drive on Steam Mill road you have to hold your breath and pray you are not in the ditches on the side of the road. How safe is this for the school bus that carries our children up and down this road daily? When it winds up in the ditch I am sure the town would than do something- including going bankrupt from all the lawsuits they will incur as the road is unsafe. I cannot imagine driving on this in the next few months when it will be covered in snow and ice
November 03, 2012 08:11:38 what?   Members of local Fire departments have traveled down state to assist emergency responders, Masonville was on the list of those volunteering, we have great people in our little town, hats off to you.
November 03, 2012 07:01:05 Denis   smooth roads just wondwering who has this official list that you addedme to and what does this list mean.
November 03, 2012 06:41:09 Denis Burpoe   Please remember to write in Denis Burpoe for the 1 year term of member of council column 11.If you want the same monotone council or if you want something vibrant,exciting,someone who thinks out of the box, open to change, open minded listens to everyone.will do the extra research to come to a conclusion, loves to debate to come to a educated conclusion then VOTE FOR ME and lets work together to bring Masonville into the future. We dont need teams or groups we need people like my self who doesen't need to affilate them with groups but is a member of our community and will work for our community write in Denis Burpoe for member of council. I will bring a new way of thinking will not promise anything will work for everyone.
November 02, 2012 22:21:02 Craig DuMond   Mr. Young & Sincere citizen: While I generally try not to get in bickering matches with constituents on this site, whenever my sincerity or character is attacked I always respond accordingly. Additionally, I have always posted my name on this site and never been afraid to voice my opinion. (campaign promise). I am warmed by the support I have received by some of the folks here, and also try to maintain an even perspective on the criticism because many of the posts are made anonymously. I understand that Mr. Young has a personal issue with me and we do not agree on some things, however, after reading some of my old campaign literature I feel compelled to set the record straight. 1. I will look at innovative ways to offset ever increasing taxes. ie competitive bidding, local efficiency programs and grant funding. Through these processes I believe we can reduce our ever increasing taxes. I have accomplished all of this. I have brought nearly 600,000 of grant funding to the Town, 90,000 for a new ambulance for the fire district. Yes these grants were secured through various State politicians and programs. However, they did not magically get dropped in our lap...Someone had to lobby for them...that person was yours truly. How do grants offset and lower taxes? For ever grant dollar that is spent to purchase something for the Town, such as a new ambulance, that is a dollar that does not have to be raised by taxes and, by virtue, lowers taxes! I increased State aid and garnered shared service agreements with other towns to share costs, again contributing to the reduction of tax dollars that needs to be raised to operate the Town. 2. Town Clean Up - During my tenure as supervisor we cleaned up several properties, razed others, engaged in beautification projects such as flags and welcome signs. We have seen a steady increase in building permits, which for the 1st time in several years appears promising. Some of the accomplishments we have made that I am very proud of are: Increased grant funding (by hundreds of thousands of dollars), increased State aid assistance, comprehensive (competitive bidding) insurance study resulting in a savings of thousands of dollars. Lastly, Mr. Young, I am deeply offended by your comments that I used the Town to climb my own ladder at the County. Leaving the job that I had for 22 years with the State was one of the most difficult decisions I have ever made. However, the writing was on the wall, due to the economy my job was in serious jeopardy...just like many other folks have faced out there. The job offer from the County was completely unexpected and actually taking it meant a reduced salary and being forced (due to State Law) to give up the Supervisor's post which I loved so much. The decision was very difficult but was the best thing to due for the security of my family. With this said I feel I was blessed by God with this opportunity and do not regret the decision I made. All of this was discussed openly at Town Board meetings with the public. I am proud of my record as Supervisor and have always worked very passionately to represent the Town with all of my heart and soul. I am disappointed that you would insinuate anything else. I would encourage you to attend some of our Town Board meetings to become more informed of things before casting stones or attempting to assassinate one's character. I have always appreciated constructive criticism and routinely allow as much input as possible from the public. I am sensitive to this after what I went through with the school district over the closing of our school. As you may remember, I chaired the citizen's committee that took the school to task when they violated us so badly. Like we said in our campaign letter; we do not feel the Masonville 1st group is evil or has ill intent. This election is not about political ideology or party. It is simply about 2 different directions for our Town. One is to maintain the traditions we hold dear and maintain our freedoms and liberties or start down the road of moratoriums, land use regulations and zoning. So many other Towns have opened Pandora's box and found themselves in situations that cannot be reversed. I believe we must preserve our way of life...I love this Town. I am fourth generation in this Town. All of my relatives have been born and buried in this Town. I would never do anything to hurt this Town!
November 02, 2012 21:15:40 No Joke   Peebles Dept. Store to open in Sidney... this is not a joke the ribbon cutting is in a few weeks. Glad to hear jobs and tax revenues will be coming to the area! I am just very confussed on who will be shopping at this store.. How can this be... WHO can afford to shop at Peebles? (Have to save nearly every dollar to pay taxes, & gas to get to work... and map out a drive plan to run errands once a month to stop at the ATM, Grocery & Library etc.). Would love to see a Aldi's or Save-A-Lot or even some Child friendly entertainment establishments!!!
November 02, 2012 20:20:59 what?   Robert Young, sounds like you won't be voting for our lying President. Obama's record;605 Campaign Promises, 199 Kept / 346 Broken / 60 Pending.
November 02, 2012 19:04:32 Steam Mill traveler   No Who, I do not see all that money being spent on roads. I have to say I don\'t travel all over Masonville to check on other road conditions and I don\'t go to meetings or know what is spent on other things like plowing, grading, ditch digging and other things I have seen done. Kind of makes a person wonder!
November 02, 2012 17:20:22 who   Steammill traveler lets look it this way this year comming the board got the budget from the highway dept for over 560,000 dollars lets average it out over the last 3 years with out actual numbers.lets use 500,000 dollars in budget. due you see 1.5 millon dollars worth of road work in masonville in the last 3 years?
November 02, 2012 17:16:39 Observer   If everyone's road was nice and smooth and straight then everyone would complain about people traveling too fast on them.
November 02, 2012 15:28:31 sincere citizen   When Mr Dumond was elected town supervisor he promised to lower taxes,clean up the town,and lower taxes.Since none of this has happened,do we really need him on the board?
November 02, 2012 15:17:15 Steam Mill traveler   It is my understanding that Steam Mill is not getting repaved but that the asphalt is being removed and then  gravel put down. I drive up and down this road almost every day. It is by no means being "paved" with anything. I know the town is trying to do something so it doesn't heave. I am thankful for anything they can do. Why can't people stop whining about what is and isn't being done on their roads! 
November 02, 2012 13:40:39 XXXXXXXXXXX   Smooth Roads do you work for the town?
November 02, 2012 12:15:16 What!   Smooth roads denis has not asked for anything special on his road all he stated is that he has a plan has worked at managing projects in the millions. He never stated that he wants his road paved but is looking for preventive maintenance of the roads to stop the detoration of the roads.he also stated that he wants to work with not against the highway supertendent to see as a council member if he could use his talents to help overcome the obsticals that are preventing him from doing his job more effectively not bash the man but to help. He has my vote his willness to address the issues and work until they are resolved.We need a leader like him on the board not afraid to address and resolve anything that is trown his way.We should as voters give him his shot he has been here for masonville for years and will represent the town well.
November 02, 2012 09:12:33 Robert Young   My agenda is electing people who will keep their promises. Not electing self serving people who use this town for their own gain. I'm 68 years old and have seen it happen too many times.
November 02, 2012 09:01:47 Reasonable   Bob, It is clear you have an agenda! Even Stevie Wonder can see that! LOL
November 02, 2012 08:29:46 Bob Young   Please explain what promises where kept. I can repost his letter here if you need your memory refreshed. You call me a Liar, please explain any alleged Lie. The Ambulance was a gift from a Senator if I remember correctly, not a promise. Found money, not a promise. You say low taxes.....he promised LESS Taxes....ran on the "LOWER TAXES" Line. We never realized lower taxes. Ever. What a joke on us. BTW I am NOT a member of the Masonville first party. I vote by individual. By each persons record or position not blindly following a "TEAM" I await your specifics.......Craig.
November 01, 2012 20:29:02 Reasonable   Mr. Young - Maybe you should talk to Craig and discuss your concerns. I find your post to be untrue and insulting. At least he (craig) will give you his opinion and not the politically correct answer. I think craig has done a good job as supervisor...he did find more grant funding and maintained our town budget the lowest in the county...he got us a free ambulance and spoke out against the 'good ole boys' at the county regarding unfunded mandates. I have not agreed with everything he has done but I think his heart is in the right place and at least we know where he stands. This is what has you, as well as others from the Masonville 1st group, so unhappy with him. He publicly states he is pro property owner rights and freedoms and that makes you nuts. I am going to vote for him and, in fact, for the other 2 teams members (spaccaforno and Roff) as well. Its sad that desparate people will result to spreading lies and attempting to disparage the character of a person in an attempt to get their own way. I beleive this will be Obama's downfall as well...the people who pay attention are sick of it.
November 01, 2012 20:13:38 Smooth Roads   Got a letter from Denis today that was interesting.I'm all for better roads,that's for sure!!! Sounds like he can save our town but may cost us a bit more in taxes. Send out equipment to a shop to pay them $85.00 per hour in return have less money for road work. Paving can burn up the budget in a weeks time then the crew can sit around and take a break while the equipment is at a repair shop. Lots of roads are shot and no money to fix them unless it is Steam Mill where a few town officials live. It's not even the worst road in town. Add Denis to the official list so his road(Steam Mill) can be paved with gold and our taxes can double. After all it's only money.Not to say he can't find us money for roads but let us know how.
November 01, 2012 19:28:56 Robert Young No one on the Masonville First party has said they want Zoning. This is a boldface LIE. In fact, they have constantly said they are against Zoning. The current board, who seems to post here anonymously, is trying to spread lies to keep their seats. I was personally offended to see " Vote the Team" signs up. What they said to me was " Vote the Good Ol' Boys" back in to continue not keeping their promises. I kept a copy of Craig's campaign promises. He has kept NONE of those promises. Call him on it. Nothing he promised in the radio and in person ever got done. Nothing. He simply used us to get his current job at the County. *CENSORED* on our boots to climb his own ladder. It sickens me. Time for a change.
November 01, 2012 17:45:38 Common sense   I keep hearing about this group called Masonville first. They seem to think that the people of Masonville need to be protected from their neighbors, who will make uniformed and uneducated decisions in regards to the use of their mineral rights. What the group Masonville first is not telling the public is that in order to protect Masonville, the residents should vote away there neighbors property rights as well as relinquish there own to a zoning board. The concept that the rights of the individual should be stripped away and given to an elected board who then will tell the people of Masonville what they may or may not do on there own property. This is not an American view of government, this is a collectivist view, a socialist view, a Marxist view of government. Any elected official who tells you that by surrendering your rights to them will make you safer is not telling you the truth. I would say to the group called Masonville first, you keep your protection and I will keep my property rights. I would say to the people of Masonville . Trust your neighbors, that they would not do anything to harm there own property and have faith that your neighbor will make informed and educated decisions. Respect your neighbors property rights as you would want your neighbor to respect your rights. Remember it is better to put your faith in your neighbors than it is in government. If there is one thing that history has taught us that loosing your rights to government is easy but getting them back is not.
November 01, 2012 16:19:13 Reasonable   Amen!
November 01, 2012 16:06:49 what?   property owner, what? do you mean by "Good thing the federal government didn’t think that way in the wake of the recent hurricane."? What has Obama done for the flood victims? He has said for the Govt. to get out of the way,"cut the Govt. red tape to get things moving faster." This is exactly the opposite of Obama's agenda of big govt. intrusion into our lives, more rules and regulations. If getting Govt. out of the way in a disaster is going to help the flood area rebuild then why doesn't Obama realize that getting Govt. out of the way would be beneficial to our everyday lives, and rebuild America?
November 01, 2012 15:52:32 what?   Moratorium? Isn't that where we have been for the last two or so years? How much more time do we need to think about this? The moratorium supporters are only for a out right ban, talk of moratorium is just to slow things down with the hope of eventual ban. While I am not a supporter of 'fracking',I think they should keep the chemicals out of the water, and I hope my neighbors don't drill. We can't ignore the states that are making $Billions$ of dollars on drilling. The states drilling for natural gas are the only ones adding jobs in Obama's terrible economy and record unemployment. Drilling isn't just benefiting the 'Big Business', it will benefit each and every one of us. Some of us will be getting jobs that we have been waiting four years for, we will see our utility bills go down, more businesses created, more jobs, more tax revenue for our state, North Dakota, behind strong oil and gas development, has seen its economy expand while unemployment has remained low. Revenue was so great in North Dakota due to natural gas development, there was such a surplus in tax money that there was a push to abolish property taxes in the state, they actually thought about doing away with property taxes in their state because of the money being made off natural gas. It is not just the gas companies looking to benefit, each and every one of us will, even the non-drilling land owners.
November 01, 2012 14:30:36 Denis Burpoe   Please do not forget to write in Denis Burpoe for member of council it will be column 11 for the 1 year term.
November 01, 2012 14:23:23 Denis Burpoe   What* I do not support a moritorium or zoning.Please refer to my post fron 0ct. 17,15,10,04,12. I do beleive that the sitting board if elected as well as myself if elected will do thier due dilagence and protect our enviroment the peoples health and our infrstructure. I will also insist that the property owners who will have the opportunity to sell thier mineral rights are also protected from the rath of a group called masonville first. And at the same time make sure that the people who oppose any economic evolution in our town also have thier rights to oppose protected. we live in a very diverse community and we have new way of securing economic opportunities for our community and we need to open our minds and come to what is best for Masonville. And until we know what is going to happen I cannot and will not put a moritorium in place.
November 01, 2012 12:16:19 property owner   I should have been clearer. I am a Masonville resident, though I am not currently living here. I have been in New Jersey with my son since my husband passed a little over a year ago. I came up here to spend some time cleaning and to close up the house for the winter. When they had school board election in NJ that would affect my grandchildren, I registered to vote there. I have not double dipped. In the coming Spring, I am coming back to Masonville and building the house we planned on. The current house is not in great shape, but it's sufficient for just me, but still I want to build something lasting to leave my son and grandchildren. That's the reason for my concern. I really don't want to get into a dialogue here, but I have to say that the previous response says they don't want the government and outside forces to dictate what happens in Masonville, that we can take care of ourselves, yet at the same time you agree with those that want to wait and allow the State and the gas companys to make OUR decisions for us. Doesn't make any sense. I totally agree with you on the first part, but on the other, well, it's a contradiction. Can't have both. But we can all vote and I'll be here Tuesday to do just that.
November 01, 2012 11:27:18 checkmate   To: Property owner- 11/1/12--You wrote "I currently do not live in Masonville" but state you have changed your registration to Masonville,. I was under the impression that people could only vote where their actual residence is and yours,as you stated, is not Masonville. Are you a double dipper?
November 01, 2012 10:25:17 Reasonable   I beleive everyone is catching on to the Masonville Worst (1st) scare tactics and frankly we are getting tired of it! The Town does not need the Feds, State or County telling us what to do!!! This is another example of the difference between Masonville 1st and the rest of us; We can make our own decisions, we do not look at the government to solve our problems, we are smart enough to educate ourselves on matters at hand. We have the confidence in our local board to properly represent us and not listen to the loud and obnoxious minority! Masonville 1st is really out of touch with most people in the Town, that will be proven on Tuesday!!! I agree with keeping our incumbents in place and keeping our freedoms in Masonville! I am voting for Spaccaforno, Dumond and Roff!!!
November 01, 2012 09:44:15 property owner   As a Masonville property owner, I have been closely watching the debate over a moratorium. I do not currently live in Masonville, but I hope to soon build my home and live there full time, hopefully the rest of my life. Realizing the importance of this local election, I did change my registration to Masonville and I plan to vote for the candidates in favor of a moratorium because I feel it protects not only my property, but the future of all Masonville. In today’s mail, I received a letter from the incumbents and was saddened at what I read. As I understand it, the “well-intentioned folks” of the First Party are just that. There is nothing in their agenda that is contrary to the age old values of Masonville. In fact, they want to protect our precious freedoms and not be dictated by the agenda of the gas companies and the potentially dangerous regulations of the DEC. Nothing I have seen in their platform is anti-gas. What I DO see is prudent thinking. That’s just one of the many errors I found in this letter. Also, New York State Law DOES NOT require zoning for just a moratorium. The moratorium is simply a formal statement by the townspeople that says, let’s stop and think about all this and let’s make some decisions that will protect our freedoms BEFORE it’s too late. Revising the comprehensive plan is the wise way to go. It doesn’t have to enact zoning that harms our local industries. This letter has resorted to scare tactics using terms like “regulated out of business,” “zoning…with unbridled power.” Come on! In fact the letter does have a good point in stating that we don’t know “if and when gas development will come our way.” Exactly, that’s why a moratorium IS called for now, beforehand, in preparation. A moratorium is for practical purposes so that we can review the comprehensive plan to protect our private property and to make policies to protect our road and bridge infrastructure, as well as determine guidelines as to where drilling would and would not be allowed. Not doing so in the event of gas drilling could result in serious harm to all the above mentioned. There is currently no policy for use and protection that the drillers would have to comply with. There’s where you’ll have your “unbridled power,” and we won’t be able to do a thing about it. Roads should be evaluated for optimum routing and drillers would have to bond themselves in order to assure payments for any damages their trucks would cause. Tioga and Broome counties have enacted county wide policies for just that. Livingston county is working on that as well. Unfortunately Delaware County has not, so we must protect ourselves. Without protection, the drillers will trample over us, leaving destruction in their wake, leaving it up to us to pay for damages caused solely by them. In fact, the letter does state that you are for protection of “our infrastructure, through local laws, appropriate bonding…etc.,” but that you want to wait until “if and when gas drilling does come to our Town.” What are you waiting for? Your platform makes NO sense. Either you are just too lazy, is it too much work for you? or do you all have another agenda? Talk about “downright scary.” Good thing the federal government didn’t think that way in the wake of the recent hurricane. Preemptive planning. We knew it was coming. We didn’t know where or when exactly, but we knew we weren’t going to be unaffected by it. Sure, let’s just wait ‘til it’s at our doorstep. That’s a good plan. That’s your plan. That’s “unconscionable and irresponsible.”
October 31, 2012 19:59:13 what*   My vote is going to the "Team" as well! I am voting for Mike Spaccaforno, Craig DuMond and Steve Roff. They have done a good job and want to maintain our property rights!! I dont see a need for a change at this time. Denis but he still hasnt given his opinion regarding a moritorium or zoning. The Masonville 1st crew is just plain bad news for our Town!
October 31, 2012 16:19:19 what?   My votes are going for the 'Team', and I don't mean 'Masonville worst (first)'.
October 31, 2012 12:03:20 What!   Nora tommy would not get elected he has a agenda and will not work for only a minority of the people. My vote is for Denis Burpoe on election day. He has the wisdom,knowledge and passion to move masonvIllegal into the future.
October 31, 2012 10:13:03 Observer   Logical - I think it is time we stopped acting like sheep. For too long our law enforcement views everyone outside of law enforcement as scum and our courts presume guilt. I have no problem with being stopped and informed I had a malfunctioning brake light. In fact I am thankful for that information as sitting in the drivers seat puts me in a position where I was unable to observe the fact. It would have been just as easy for the officer to inform me of the fact and trust that I would take care of the situation; just as I did. But instead the officer makes sure the situation will cost me as much time and effort as possible. On top of that the court has already assumed that I am guilty. Then one adds to the situation that the officer who stopped me had a malfunctioning light on his own vehicle. I rather doubt anyone gave him a ticket and it cost him nothing in time or effort. In fact he found it humorous. As I was going to be out of the area the next day I did not have time to hunt down a law officer to verify the repair so I sent the receipt along with the ticket to our local court. You say I am going to cost the taxpayers money by pursuing my constitutional rights? Well, from my understanding of the law if I am found guilty, which I will be, I stand to pay the court costs not the taxpayers. Do you truly believe the State of New York or the Town of Masonville really cares if my brake light works or not? It is more a case of making money for the State and Town not any sense of concern for my, or anyone else's, welfare or safety.
October 30, 2012 20:22:57 Logical   I too have recently received a ticket in one of our neighboring towns.It happened to be an equipment malfunction.Actually a light bulb out.Not being familiar with this process I thoroughly read the second page that I received with my ticket.I was not aware that not only did I need to show proff to the court that I purchased the faulty bulb but also proff to the court that the repair was completed.Which makes sense to me because how does the court know that it was fixed?Some other could have been signed off by an officer or state inspection station and then sent back to the court all done in the required time.again this was all on the second page so in regards to Observer did you do this if not why are you making such a bit deal out of something that you did not do correctly? does a court make money off of a ticket that has been dismissed?.a jury trial ?doesn't that cost us taxpayers money?all for a light bulb that if proved to be fixed would be dismissed
October 30, 2012 17:28:56 Tony - CR-20   Thank you Observer for the reply. Glad to hear everything was ok up there.
October 30, 2012 15:00:38 crzyflea   You could say Masonville is blessed with stormy residents but not stormy weather. Here is the safe haven in most storms.
October 30, 2012 13:27:46 Denis Burpoe   Nobody is answering at the school I called WCDO.
October 30, 2012 13:25:16 resident   How do we find out about the vote for certain?
October 30, 2012 12:46:19 Denis Burpoe   If I am correct the vote has been canceled due to the storm?
October 30, 2012 12:26:17 resident   school vote today , do not forget to go to the high school and vote.
October 30, 2012 11:35:39 Observer   Tony - Right around us it was sorta a tempest in a teapot. Not much actually. My weather station recorded less than an inch of rain and the highest wind gust was around 30 MPH. Guess the Dear Lord was good to us.
October 30, 2012 11:16:32 Tony - CR-20   How did everyone do up there with the Storm? Hope everyone is well! Total devastation down in the City...a lot of water tree/damage. God Bless
October 29, 2012 19:43:05 Nora Lynett   Hats off to Tommy Klehr for telling it like it is: the king has no clothes! As for you other Masonvillains, take off your rose-colored glasses so you can really see what's going on. WRITE IN TOMMY KLEHR FOR COUNCIL!!!!!
October 29, 2012 14:32:00 Old Fa rt   Money talks
October 29, 2012 14:23:31 ObserverYT   Just retrieved my mail. In with all the junk was a first class letter from our Town Court. I have been informed that I am scheduled Thursday next to appear before our Town Justice to answer for the horrible crime of having a tail light bulb malfunctioning! If this were not such a farcical and humorous deal I probably would be upset. What makes it even more ridiculous is the fact I had the horrible crime corrected within an hour of being stopped and the next day a letter with the receipt for repair was sent to the court. On top of that the State Trooper who stopped me had a light out on his vehicle. This shapes up to be a very interesting deal. The court feels it has the right to waste my time so I am going to return in kind. I am going to ask for a jury trial. If found guilty by a panel of my peers I wonder just how many years I will get? Or maybe it is a case of the State and Town just needing the fine money?
October 29, 2012 04:31:50 whatever   They still won't pave the road
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