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September 26, 2012 23:44:30 Robert Beards   "But I do believe you are incorrect when you state that zoning is not necessary to pass a moratorium on drilling in the Town of Masonville. If it is not zoned then what would the moratorium be declared on?" Please, please read the Land_Use_Moratoria.pdf document. This is one of a series of state issued guides for municipalities. It really explains Land Use Moratoria quite well. It clearly states that the intent to update the Comprehensive Plan is adequate reason to put a moratorium in place. Though townspeople did give input to the making of the survey and the Comprehensive Plan, in fact it was crafted by Tom Shepstone. Tom is not a Masonville resident and is instead a gas industry "hired gun." The survey did not mention gas exploration and extraction at all, the residents overwhelmingly favored "the rural atmosphere" and "lack of development", and yet Shepstone twisted his survey result interpretation in his Comprehensive Plan to lay Masonville out for easy pickin's when his bosses arrive. We need to address this asap!
September 26, 2012 21:49:47 curious   Bertimouse Just what does government handouts have to do with taxpayer supported road maintainance? While I do think our highway department does a great job with what it has in manpower of course it could always be better. Want to see your tax bill go up so we can have smooth roads?
September 26, 2012 21:42:47 Observer   Mr. Beard you quote me extensively in your post and I laud you for not quoting out of context. But when you say you do not know what my meaning was in saying \"the politics money can buy\" perhaps you should brush up on your history a mite. i.e. Sen. Simon Cameron of PA. \"I am the best politician money can buy.\" or perhaps Tammny Hall of New York City or the political machine that has ruled Chicago since the days of Al Capone or even some of our recent Governors ;I could continue to name numerous incidents of money buying politics. Do I think money in this area would influence the politics of the natural gas question? HUMMM Do I really have to answer that question in the affirmative? But I do believe you are incorrect when you state that zoning is not necessary to pass a moratorium on drilling in the Town of Masonville. If it is not zoned then what would the moratorium be declared on? My brother-in-law is president of the New York State Coalition of Land Owners and has put many hours, days and weeks and months in fighting to get gas drilling throughout the state so as a result of listening to his ravings I have learned a lot more about the subject than I really care to know.
September 26, 2012 20:35:10 Voter   Like my father once said..."be very careful of someone that takes more than a sentence or two to explain theirself...they are probably lying". The FACT is that a town DOES have to have ZONING to enact a moritorium. The supervisor quoted the chapter and verse and different board meetings. I check it out with a land use attorney and by gosh, he was correct! Personally, I feel insulted that the Masonville 1st group asserts the town's comprehensive plan is extremely flawed. I attended those meetings as well...it was public input from the surveys sent to townspeople that made the plan what it is. The public overwhelmingly opposed any further land use restriction, zoning or moritoriums. As a matter of fact, the board actually attempted a couple of new laws and the public came to the board meetings with pitchforks and torches in hand deanding the board uphold their desires in accordance with what the public established in the comprehensive plan. It wasnt the board that crafted the plan, it was the townspeople!!! Masonville 1st really should investigate the facts prior to putting their collective 'foots' in their mouths!!!!
September 26, 2012 19:22:39 bertimouse   Whats annoying: Folks who dont like "big government help" yet still gripe about the bad roads. Nuff said.
September 26, 2012 19:16:19 bertimouse   Zoning is Not the issue. The Main issue is the Health and Safety for all. The TOM is just not ready yet. -Received a "safety info for Public Officials" bulletin the other day published by the Pipeline Assoc. for Public Awareness...good read. For instance, the TOM needs to have a Community-wide awareness and Emergency Response Plan in place Now to deal with the 3 different types of natural gas pipelines which all behave differently in emergency situations: Gathering, Transmission and/or Distribution pipelines. Large and small landowners need to know the hazards/warnings/dangers/signs, etc. of potential life threatening situations. In late 2013 the pipeline is slated to begin construction phase plans. Wake Up Masonville. Instead of saying "well I heard this or that", An educational convocation should be held in the TOM hall inviting educators from all sides: Pro, Con, Safety officers, community assistance techs; with the ultimate purpose of informing all of us about what we need to be prepared for Now; come what may. Helpful resources according to this flyer: pipelineawarenss.org, phmsa.dot.gov, npms.phmsa.dot.gov, commongroundalliance.com, pipelineemergencies.com, nena.org, fracfocus.org, primis.phmsa.dot.gov, landuseplanning.htm. Hope this helps.
September 26, 2012 19:06:35 Robert Beards   Voter, For over five years, Kathy Klopchin, a Masonville 1st candidate for Town Board, has been attending Town Meetings both educating and urging the Board to consider and plan for the important issues hyperindustrialization brings. The Town Board has remained firm in its position to do nothing. Now that so much time has been wasted, we do need to reserve some time for advance preparation. A one-year moritorium only provides a temporary hold on development, buying us time to get our ducks in a row. A moritorium protects the town by enabling it to take action before the threat of massive lawsuits closes the door on on some of our options. It is on the record that our Town's Comprehensive Plan is deeply flawed and requires revision. Masonville's Comprehensive Town Plan was essentially written by the gas industry and does not reflect the true desires of the residents according to the survey it claims to be based upon. Revising the Town's Comprensive Plan is legal ground for a moritorium. We absolutely do not need zoning to enact a moritorium. I repeat, no zoning required. Please Google "Land_Use_Moratoria.pdf". That is an official New York State guide for municipalities which explains and encourages the use of moritoriums. A moritorium is not a political ploy, it is an effective device to buy time. So useful, in fact, that the State itself has chosen to use one.
September 26, 2012 18:35:41 Robert Beards   "How can the town be proactive in an issue that even the state of New York admits is still at least 4 years and maybe more in the future? There is really no way of knowing what regulations might be placed on gas companies and towns in the next few years." The town can be proactive in a number of ways, we could start by studying case histories of similar towns, perhaps some of those over the Barnett Shale, where large scale horizontal drilling was introduced and developed. Determine exactly how we can help local business opportunities be developed and enhanced in advance, poised to take advantage of opportunity. At the same time we could determine what scenarios we'd like to avoid. We should develop plans to mitigate any forseeable negative consequences the gas industry might bring to town. They'll be here a while when they get here, but they won't be here forever. And they don't give a @#$% about Masonville. You and I do however. Masonville 1st represents residents with legitimate concerns. They know advance planning for the potential quick build-out of gas infrastructure could not possibly hurt our town, while not planning at all is sure to cost us some benefits that only advance planning could provide. Inactivity results in handicap, we'll lose time and options. The case can easily be made that most regulatory agencies in the United States are effectively "captured" or heavily influenced by the very groups who require regulating, so why assume Albany (or the Federal government) should make all the decisions regarding Masonville's future? Masonville has tools in hand to effect it's own future in a positive manner, so why not have the best possible outcome and use those tools? "Would you deny those large land holders who have already started making arrangements to lease their lands for drilling?" No. I would not deny large landowners their right to do as they see fit with their own possessions. I do have some concern for small landowners, landowners who have everything at risk, yet don't have the leverage to fend for themselves. "If, as I understand it, the issue is zoning out all drilling in the Town of Masonville are you not denying people the right to do as they see fit with their property?." Many informed people want to ban gas exploration outright one way or another. These folks have been exposed to examples of some horrible things the gas industry has done in similar situations, and they feel the potential risks don't offset the potential gains. Others strongly disagree. Masonville 1st supporters are residents who feel that the gas industry will probably come to our area and that we should prepare for the changes that come with it. "That is one thing but unfortunately any type of restrictive zoning rapidly becomes an out of control monster. Zoning sets a presedence." Masonville has options beyond zoning, and we have never called for zoning. As residents, you and I can see to it that there is no monster, with zoning or without. That's the beauty of small town life, you have effect in what goes on. "Now I am certain no gas company wants my 2 and half acres but I do fear for my future in the fact I live in a mobile home and experience living in the Town of Sanford proves mobile homes are first on the list of restrictive zoning." Your fears are misplaced. Once the infrastructure is developed, your two acres will be as desireable as any other two acres situated, like yours, over the North-east corner of what is called the "Prime Fairway" of the Marcellus Shale. Controlling the mineral rights to only two acres means you have effectively no bargaining leverage. You'll be like a baby mouse to a cat. If your home is an important investment to you, consider that most of it's value can be lost in a poorly managed industrialization scenario. "Zoning causes the NIMBY syndrome very quickly. Thus far the citizens of the Town of Masonville has done very well with minimal interference from politics and the politics money can buy. I like the Town of Masonville for the very reason one can live here without someone looking over my shoulder to make sure I measure up to what the person or group thinks I should measure up to. I am an old man with poor health and little money, thus my property will never make "Home Beautiful"." The citizens of Masonville have never been subjected to the threat of hyperindustrialization, so they have not had to face the issues we face today. We are not calling for "interference from politics", and in this local campaign I don't even know what "politics money can buy" even means. We are your neighbors, we live here because it's nice, and you and I agree we want to preserve what advantages and freedoms we have. Masonville has chosen to maintain a minimal local government, why bother? Local government is the community's best defense against strong outside challenges to our town's best interests. In the face of the serious challenges the future presents, now is not the time for local government to be inactive. "There are many things that need doing that I can neither do nor afford to have done; but, I do what I can and hope others tend to their own affairs as I tend to mine." If I live a thousand years I'll still never get all I need to do around the house done, whether I could afford it or not! I do think it's worth putting some time into helping the town. That's public service not "minding other people's affairs." "I realize I will never profit in any manner from any decision made concerning drilling in the Town of Masonville." You might think that, but that doesn't mean for sure you won't profit from the right decisions. "But, I am not about to prevent anyone else from profiting as long as it is legal." Almost everything that is now illegal was once legal. I would not assume you really want anyone to be able to do anything legal, I'm sure some things that are legal have potential for great harm.
September 26, 2012 18:11:22 Voter   Well stated Observer. From what I can tell this will be the definative difference in the platforms of the people running for office in November. This is not about political ideology or upstate versus downstate. This election is about values and ideals. It is about whether Masonville stays the traditional town we all love with little government interference or moves in the direction of zoning, land use regulations and other government intrusions. Masonville 1st wants a moritorium...you cannot have a moritorium without first enacting zoning. As you said, many of the Masonville 1st folks probably have sincere intentions with their platform but it is a very slippery slope that can quickly lead to changing the lives we are accustomed to in Masonville forever. For that reason, I think I will stay with what I am used to and vote to keep the current board in place. No zoning, moritoriums or land use regulations in Masonville!
September 26, 2012 14:58:39 Observer   How can the town be proactive in an issue that even the state of New York admits is still at least 4 years and maybe more in the future? There is really no way of knowing what regulations might be placed on gas companies and towns in the next few years. Would you deny those large land holders who have already started making arrangements to lease their lands for drilling? If, as I understand it, the issue is zoning out all drilling in the Town of Masonville are you not denying people the right to do as they see fit with their property?. That is one thing but unfortunately any type of restrictive zoning rapidly becomes an out of control monster. Zoning sets a presedence. While the intention may be for the good of all it will turn into "what "I" want and to H with the rest attitude.Now I am certain no gas company wants my 2 and half acres but I do fear for my future in the fact I live in a mobile home and experience living in the Town of Sanford proves mobile homes are first on the list of restrictive zoning. Zoning causes the NIMBY syndrome very quickly.Thus far the citizens of the Town of Masonville has done very well with minimal interference from politics and the politics money can buy. I like the Town of Masonville for the very reason one can live here without someone looking over my shoulder to make sure I measure up to what the person or group thinks I should measure up to. I am an old man with poor health and little money, thus my property will never make "Home Beautiful". There are many things that need doing that I can neither do nor afford to have done; but, I do what I can and hope others tend to their own affairs as I tend to mine. I realize I will never profit in any manner from any decision made concerning drilling in the Town of Masonville. But, I am not about to prevent anyone else from profiting as long as it is legal.
September 26, 2012 13:00:25 Robert Beards   To be clear, we do not view the election as "upstater" vs "downstater" at all. There are many residents, originally from both up and downstate, who have voiced their support for Masonville 1st. That's not the issue. The issue is actually whether you agree that our Masonville Board should proactively prepare for our future, or whether you feel the Board's policy should be "wait and see." Masonville 1st represents all residents who understand that a "do nothing" policy during this crucial period will curtail our ability to maximize the advantages and minimize the disadvantages that come with the industrialization of Masonville.
September 26, 2012 10:59:30 Observer   What! Not me. All I know is the rantings on this board. LOL
September 26, 2012 10:52:27 What!   Observer can you identify who are a up staters and who are the down staters
September 26, 2012 10:17:18 Observer   I had a couple of candidates from the "Masonville First" party stop by and discuss thier plans for Masonville if elected to the Town Board. I think this is the first time any candidate for any office in Masonville has stopped by to explain his or her platform or ideas. That is the problem with small town politics. Too much is taken for granted and the thought that "Oh well, everyone knows and loves me so why campaign?" That aside, it appears that this years town election is going to be an interesting one. As I gather it is going to be the old "Upstater vs Downstaters".
September 26, 2012 10:08:16 Just interested   If the Supervisor just received the mail then it would stand to reason he could not have read it earlier. Right? Note: USING CAPS GOT YOUR ATTENTION!! LOL.
September 25, 2012 23:38:15 bertimouse   Dear Mike Spaccaforno; Our Current TOM Supervisor: Please DO NOT YELL AT US ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS WITH YOUR POSTS HERE SIR. The Simple Fact that you are Not Able to Review Your/Our Most Important TOM Related Mail In a Timely Fashion - Is Your Problem which may Ultimately result in Your Being Fired, i.e. Voted Out of Your Office & Responsibility, Sir. Respectfully Submitted.
September 25, 2012 18:39:46 Observer   Ticket fixer while I am sure our judge is a very nice lady (I have never met her)being accomadating is not part of her duties. Justice in this country is and always has been as good as the lawyer one can afford. i.e O.J Simpson etc. A town or village justice is not there to serve the public but rather to do what is montarily best for the jurisdiction they work in. Dismissing tickets is not in the interest of the local coffers. We live in an era where all law enforcement thinks everyone is a scumbag and the courts view you as automatically guilty. Even the summons I was issued views an equipment failure as a crime even though it was corrected within a half hour of issuing the summons. Note that was not a crime with the equipment failure on the car the officer was driving. Will my crime be dismissed? Probably not as I am not going to chase down a law official to "check up" on me. I am getting my vehicle inspected tomorrow and if it passes the inspection it will be good enough for the State of New York then it should be good enough for even the Masonville Court. Am I upset over this heinous crime? Not really. But, I do think our law enforcement and courts have more pressing matters than a burned out tail light bulb.
September 25, 2012 18:21:11 ticket fixer   I believe the ticket has to be dismissed according to law if the violation is fixed prior to the court date. Nonetheless, I am sure our Judge will be accomodating if you have the light fixed.
September 25, 2012 17:34:15 Observer   Ticket Fixer Thank you but I have been informed that the judge in the Masonville Court does not dismiss any tickets so I am pleading not guilty and taking my chances with my day in court LOL.
September 25, 2012 17:28:05 ticket fixer   Dear Observer - I believe if you take your corrected tail light to a police station or garage inspection station before the court date they will give you a certificate indicating the violation was fixed. The ticket will then be dismissed by the judge.
September 25, 2012 11:19:04 Observer   The state and town is getting hungry again!! I had the dubious pleasure of being issued a ticket for the Masonville court for a defective tail light. Oh joy! I get an opportunity to be part of our great court system. One humorous thing did come from it. After the issuance of the ticket and the mandatory lecture on keeping our vehicles safe etc. I reminded the officer that his own vehicle had a defective headlight. He thanked me and went on his way and I on mine.
September 24, 2012 13:37:04 MIKE SPACCAFORNO   TO ALL , PLEASE NOTE I JUST RECEIVED THE MAIL.THERE IS A NOTICE FROM THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION.I AM COPYING THE MEETING DATE AND TIME HERE FOR ALL WITH QUESTIONS. I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE I JUST RECEIVED IT.PLEASE PASS THIS INFO ON TO ALL INTERESTED PARTIES.THERE WILL BE REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT ONE HOUR BEFORE THE MEETING FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. ALL COMMENTS WILL BE RECORDED. 24.SEPT.2012 BEGINNING AT 7:00-10:00 PM AT THE AFTON H.S., 29 ACADEMY ST. , AFTON N.Y. THANK YOU.
September 24, 2012 11:44:00 ???   I believe the issue was raised prior to Steve's appointment on the Town Board and the Comptroller, as well as the elections commissioner, both opined it was NOT a conflict of interest.
September 24, 2012 11:13:28 Just interested   PS - and the Code of ethics of the Town Board is a matter of public record.
September 24, 2012 11:09:57 Just interested   See State Comptrollers opinion 89-20 concerning code of ethics for Town Boards as not applying to Fire Departments. This opinion was rendered in 1989 at the request of Steven Tiska, Masonville Town Treasurer. It would appear unless the Fire Department has a code of ethic prohibiting a commissioner from serving on the Town Board it is not a conflict of interest.
September 24, 2012 09:54:02 concerned for fire dept   how can a fire commissioner be on the town board too? Isn\'t this a conflict of interest? Steve has to choose what to do and resign from one postion.
September 24, 2012 06:13:23 whatever!   resident you didn't notice that only half the road was repaired
September 23, 2012 09:48:02 resident   whatever, why don't you just go to a meeting and find out the answers to all of your "important" questions? Remember the meetings are the 1st Wed. of each month.
September 23, 2012 07:09:39 whatever!   I traveled foster road how com they left potholes un repaired
September 22, 2012 07:58:04 what?   What? Not the real what?
September 22, 2012 07:47:13 What?   Out of the office that was built
September 21, 2012 17:22:59 give some thought   There is only so much one person can do, do you want town clerk at the town office or do you want to reach someone on the weekends also?
September 21, 2012 07:57:44 voter   Please have the clerk work out of the office that was built by the taxpayers as every town does.
September 20, 2012 19:58:00 bertimouse   Saw our first Wooly Bear today. It had 2 small black spots on each end and the rest was all brown in the middle. Get ready for lots of snow this year, Yaay! Last year we saw a lot of pure black and mostly black ones so the old tale must be true. :)
September 20, 2012 12:04:27 voter   I understand that someone in our town made a county election board complaint that our election facility is not handycap accessable and our supervisor did a walk through inspection and was told it is the best facility in the county. Hopefully this person complaining is not one of the people wanting to be a board member and help run our town, that kind of help we do not need. Who ever made this call, some day the town people will find out and they will not be happy about what was said, it is always a good idea to think before you speak in a small town, because eventually we all hear about it.
September 20, 2012 11:54:57 resident   How many town clerks do you know that will serve you 5days a week, limited, but also on Sat. and Sun.? Maybe some people should learn to appreciate the extra that our small town does.
September 18, 2012 23:02:23 Pamela Walker pwalker#frontiernet.net The best place to leave a message is at my Home office 265-3537
September 18, 2012 22:54:57 Pamela Walker pwalker@frontiernet.net The Town Clerks hours are 5:00p.m. and after every day of the week including holidays Saturday's and Sunday's and sometimes before i go to my full time Job in the morning. Please call and I will return it. If the Town Clerk job paid a full time I would not have to work 2 job's. I work as Town Clerk for the people so please let me know how I can help you with what you need and I will be there.
September 18, 2012 17:24:11 what?   When is the vote? When is the vote to replace the new football field that they s crewed up?
September 18, 2012 09:51:56 tax payer   Maybe all should vote once again on the football field that SCS thinks they cannot live without! With the price of gas and heating oil I really hope everyone votes no. Not that it is nice for the kids, but in all reality we do need gasoline and heating fuel more! After last years voting I knew they would try again. The school board does not like to be told no.
September 18, 2012 08:43:41 Denis Burpoe   Tri Town News Thursday September 13 Sidney school to have vote on $7,699,000 new turf field with 6,199,000 in tax levy. Now if I were to have a tax increase it would have to be to fix my road. I'm spending that much in ball joints and tie rod ends. .
September 17, 2012 15:22:17 what?   What is their plan? Fix their new field, or are they going ahead with another new field?
September 17, 2012 11:53:10 Denis Burpoe.   I hope everyone is excited about the new football field that the school has going out to bid.
September 17, 2012 11:48:55 nobody   What are the town clerk hours for christ sake? Cant never get a hold of anyone. They should be open all day like all the other towns.
September 16, 2012 12:46:31 resident   Like many people,the town highway crew are hard working and unlike a lot of us, are on call at all times in case of emergency in a storm. We all have our benefits and drawbacks of our jobs , but doing a good job is the important thing, and to like our work certainly helps.
September 14, 2012 15:19:15 what?   Good one Observer!!
September 14, 2012 15:17:17 what?   Not many work on Christmas day, the TOM workers DO if needed, Thanksgiving and Easter too. I bet these complainers spend those days with family and friends.
September 14, 2012 09:06:01 !?!?!?!?!!!   The highway guys are on call, but don't get paid until they are called out to work. They miss family events when they have to go clear roads so you can travel to your family gatherings. Just remember they are up early clearing roads so you can get to work and make it safe for your children/grandchildren to go to school. The highway dept gets some directions from the board and Chuck gives a report to the board every month. No complaining about the money that was saved while they worked on the town hall? The economy isn't great; the cost of everything has gone up therefore making the cost for repairs to the roads more. Money will only go so far. Taxes could be increased to cover the higher cost; for one I don't want to pay more taxes, maybe the complainers could make a sizeable donation to the highway dept to fix their road.
September 14, 2012 07:00:46 What!   Eyes open on call and getting paid, The town also offers a retierment, healh care, sick time. tell them to go work some where else if they cant do the job. Dont feel bad at all look at all the tax payers not working.
September 13, 2012 17:07:47 Observer   A prayer for Obama - Psalm 109 verse 8.
September 13, 2012 08:59:07 EB   I, the Evil Bear am applying for the garbage collector postion for Shears Road business district.
September 13, 2012 08:24:26 TX-1   Are they going to have a drive-thru?
September 13, 2012 07:32:15 ??????   I heard they are going to build a golden corral restaurant . they are even going to serve deer and bear which is harvest from the local state lands !
September 12, 2012 19:51:34 HUH!!!   I heard it was actually a 5 star restraurant they are going to open on Shear Road.
September 12, 2012 19:09:19 HAPPY MEAL   NEWS UPDATE!!!! A new Burger King will open on Shears Rd. FIRST IN THE AREA!!!!!!! OKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 11, 2012 20:19:52 one who has eyes open   Does anyone realize there are 3 men working for the highway dept plus the highway superintendent. There are more miles per man in the town of Masonville than anyother town. When there is not enough money to rebuild roads you need to maintain the ones you can or you will start from scratch when there may be money. Some may complain now that things are not getting done but when it snows you show no mercy that these men are out all day 5am until who knows when so you can do what ever you want. They are also on 24/7 call in. Would you like it? The jobs they are told to do get done and a fine job at that.
September 11, 2012 09:23:03 YUP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Just find out they are going to put new EZ PASS EXPRESS LANES. On the new 4 lane highway on Shears Parkway. They also put a DOT Weigh Station on top by the old 4 ways. So Happy !! traffic in Shears parkway will flow at ease..........
September 11, 2012 08:15:25 Huh   wow back to dirt roads no money are our tax dollars being used elswhere. Something is wrong in the management of the highway dept. It sound like it needs to be looked at closely by the board.
September 10, 2012 22:51:21 Pothole Dodger   Our town crew is so large it should be paved by now, it has been three days of work so far. Today I could drive 20mph before only 5mph, seems like the moon surface is getting better. As they say it will get worse before it gets better. Last rumor was no money to pave so back to dirt roads I guess.Also no funds for new equipment either,can't wait till winter with no plow trucks. But Foster road rebuilt in a day???? Rome wasn't built in one day.
September 10, 2012 20:20:32 bertimouse   Appears the TOM Hwy. Dept. is saving money for this winter's road salt.
September 09, 2012 07:36:27 Who!   I am glad they are spending money on shears road because they are not doing any work any where else in town. Did anyone see the *CENSORED* work they are doing on foster road. I guess you get what you elect.
September 08, 2012 18:19:50 TX-1   Are they putting a traffic light on SHEARS RD
September 07, 2012 18:13:05 HUH   Yes some good did come out of the meeting. They are planning on putting a 4 lane devided highway the entire length of Shear Road. Of course there will be noise abatement in front of all houses and camps. Landscaping will have to be delayed until next summer unfortunately.
September 07, 2012 13:48:41 whatever?   Did anything good come out of the town board meeting last night. Are any roads getting repaired in the next couple of years.
September 07, 2012 08:59:36 A SHEAR ROAD HUNTER   ON THE 3 POINT RESTRICTION ON BUCKS IN THE AREA .. IN ONE HAND IT SUCKS. AND IN ANOTHER HAND THATS GREAT ! WE NEED SOME NICE BUCKS IN THE AREA. SINCE A FEW SMALLER BUCKS SPIKE,4,6 PTR LATELY. NO BIG ONES YET BUT SEEN BIG BIG DOES. AND LOTS OF BAMBIS. ANYONE SEEN ANY BIG GAME ON SHEARS RD STATE LANDS ????
September 07, 2012 07:38:06 j.b. wolf   Message Board Test
September 06, 2012 21:44:58 what?   These Democrats at their convention said they want to \"force corporations to lose money\". They don\'t have the slightest understanding that without profits, there\'s no business. It doesn\'t stay open. There aren\'t any jobs without profit. There aren\'t any taxes without profits. There\'s nothing without profits. And these Obama supporters want to ban profits.The Obama regime has been claiming they created 4.5 million jobs.It\'s a LIE but Obama continues to take credit for 4.5 million new jobs. CNN news fact checked, 300,000 new jobs. Obama has given us 42 straight months of unemployment over 8%, after Obama\'s trillion dollar \'Stimulus Bill\'. Unemployment was 7.8% when Obama was elected, 8.3% now.There is 23 million unemployed people in this country. The median family income four years ago: $54,983. Today it\'s $50,964. Basically the medium family income is down four grand.The national debt four years ago: $10.6 trillion. It\'s $15.9 trillion today.Obama has accumulated more National debt than 41 U.S. presidents from George Washington through George H.W. Bush combined.
September 06, 2012 20:36:42 Reasonable   I was watching some interviews being done by a conservative today at the DNC Convention...the question: "Do you think that all corporate profits should be outlawed?" To my dismay, every single individual answered "yes". One even said "if I ever came across Romney I would kill him". Unbelievable!!!
September 06, 2012 14:21:20 What!   The ones that want to live off the working mans money.
September 06, 2012 13:07:04 curious   How could any thinking individual read the Democrat platform and even remotely think of voting Democrat?
September 02, 2012 00:37:24 what?   WOW! Where is all the Shears road hunters, and Masonville BEAR hunters or any hunters?? Mike Collison asked a good question?? Whats? our opinion on the new minimum antler restrictions? I for one are AGAINST the new state rule! It will give the anti-hunters some new ammo, you-all are just trophy hunters!, they will say! Y\'all ain\'t looking for food you are hunting for a new plaque on the wall! I have shot some nice bucks, but I hunt to eat them not for the horns!! We will lose revenue from the out of state hunters, some locals say non-residents might leave accidentally shot bucks under the restriction left dead in the woods, FYI some locals will do the same!! Pro-proponents to antler restrictions think it will better the genetics of the deer, they all have the same genetics whether they are three on one side or eight on a side, the genetics don\'t change!!
August 30, 2012 11:31:42 Tony Antblahblah@gmail.com Hello i was wondering if any land on Getter hill road has been leased for gas drilling?and if so are they still interested in leasing on that road? Thank.
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August 29, 2012 13:14:49 Denis Burpoe   I will be running for a position as a member of Town Councilman as a write in Candidate this November.I will be looking foward for the opportunity to represent all the people of Masonville.
August 29, 2012 03:57:56 what?   I love to eat venison. The antlers are just for stirring the pot. This just means some of the deer will have three points on a side before they get shot.
August 28, 2012 20:45:17 Mike Collison   So on a non political note how do you guys feel about the 3 points on one side restriction by DEC?
August 27, 2012 20:40:28 Observer   Zoning is almost always an attempt by an individual or group of individuals to position themselves to some perceived advantage over everyone else. What advantage is this group looking for? It could not possibly be over gas drilling? Nah, never happen. No one in this town would take advantage.
August 27, 2012 20:04:43 Robert Beards   I doubt many believe the Masonville 1st party represents anyone with views even vaguely similar to those expressed on this board. We formed the party last year to find the common ground between the obvious extreme positions. Many long time residents agree with us that being asleep at the wheel instead of making preparations is not a good plan. They just don't seem to care that a newer resident may have said it first. It's just plain sense. Setting aside our state-granted municipal legal tools and letting Albany and deep pocketed vested interests make all the important decisions regarding Masonville's future? Not a good idea. Dreaming of potential economic benefits while doing no planning to position Masonville to best take advantage of them. Not even a plan, really. The town holds the reins, should it let the horse drive?
August 27, 2012 19:30:13 Denis   Reasonable, Thank You.
August 27, 2012 19:03:34 one resident   The important thing to remember when voting is, do you like the way our town is being run now by the town board we have representing us, or do you want zoning and other actions which will change our ways for ever? This should not take a lot of thought, just common sense. Please give this election a lot of thought and do not go by who is running , but by what they stand for with the welfare of our town at risk.
August 27, 2012 11:14:23 Reasonable   Hi Denis - We are all locals and I am sorry for not articulating myself the way I should have. I think \"Home Town\" said it best. It is unfortunate that the minority of individuals that want to take our Town in the wrong direction all happen to be from down-state. I am sorry for broad brushing everyone together. The majority of the down-state folks (or from elsewhere) that have moved here are considered \"locals\" as they share the same \"local\" values and desires as the majority of us here in the Town. This election will actually be more about the future mentality and direction of the Town rather than residents origin. Again, I apologize for this as some of my closest neighbors are friends from elsewhere and I would never would want them offended or anyone else for that matter.
August 27, 2012 07:44:27 Denis Burpoe   Reasonable how do you become a local. Do they vote, how many are there. Can I become one.
August 26, 2012 15:30:29 Observer   I will vote for whom ever puts a sound system in the town meeting room. LOL LOL !!
August 26, 2012 08:06:41 Denis Burpoe   I also will be running for a Town Board seat.I will be knocking on your doors to talk to the People of Masonvill this Fall.
August 26, 2012 07:48:57 Home Town   I think I understand what Reasonable is saying about certain outsiders coming in and taking over. It isnt everyone, heck, some of my best neighbors have moved here from downstate. Many of them moved here for a reason...the same reason why us oldtimers continue to live here...little retrictions and the freedom to love life as we chose with little government interference. The were tired of the NYC mentality and government telling them how tolive their lives, what color their front door should be, etc. and wanted a change! I think we can all agree on that. The folks Reasonable is talking about are not these people but rather a small group of individuals who come into a long-established community and want to change everything. It has happened all over and we cannot let it happen here. These folks represent a very small minority of our community but have the intellegence, arrogance and money to run rough shod over most of us laid bck individuals. I have seen this in action at the Board meetings and it is not pretty. It is clear they want everything their way and do not have the community as a whole in their consideration. Civility and repect is significantly lacking. It is truly appalling to all of us who are brought up with a certain decorum that teaches us to defer to those who clearly have certain earned rights, who are older, etc. We don't bull our way into a new situation and tell the members of the community, organization, etc. how things are going to be from here on in. But they do!! And they do it with impunity! This it intimidates the most people who do not have the time, money and expertise to combat them. But..........we simply have to speak up and act, or it will be too late, as it already is in some places.
August 25, 2012 20:51:00 Reasonable   Observer - I respect and appreciate your opinion and take on the situation. I also agree with you regarding our current leadership. I feel the Town Board has done an awesome job! Although I do not agree with all of his positions on everything, Mr. DuMond during his tenure as supervisor did more for the Town in six years that was ever done in the previous 30! He publically supports Mr. Spaccaforno so as far as I am concerned that is good enough for me. Mr. Roff has long been involved with the Town, many years as Chairman of the Fire Commissioners and also an officer on the Delaware County Sportsman\'s Federation. Like my grandma used to say...\"if it aint broke, dont try fixing it\". I see no reason to do any tinkering with the Town Board and plan to support the incumbants.
August 25, 2012 11:54:39 Observer   Reasonable - I do not know nor have ever met, to the best of my knowledge, any of the three persons you mention. I would reserve any opinion I have of their intentions until I heard from them; which I have not. Of course any resident of Masonville town has the right to run for any office open to election. My personal opinions of those who are now in office or may be thinking of running will be based strictly on whether I think they are capable of doing the job they are seeking. Where they originally come from make little difference to me. I was born and brought up in this general area (Delaware, Chenango, Broome Counties). And yes, I did spend some 12 years living downstate (Long Island) where I made some wonderful friends. As to the "locals" being the only ones who know what is best for the town I have reservations about that. I am 76 years old and I have seen and heard stories of "local leadership" in these small towns over the years and I can assure you that the leadership was not always keeping the citizens of the town they served first in mind. I agree that the Town of Masonville is being well served by the leadership we now have but I know for a fact this was not always so. Past leaders of this town were looking out for themselves first and the town second. As to paying attention to what is going on at town meetings I do not attend many of them due to other obligations on meeting nights and the fact I am very hard of hearing and miss much of what is going on as the board does not use amplification for themselves or for the public but I do receive the town minutes and agendas and I do read them closely. While I know the Town Supervisor is fully within his legal rights by appointing people out of hand to fill vacated positions on the Board I am not a fan of such actions. I do not like appointments to elected offices. But as long as it is legal and proper who am I to judge the motives of doing it. I find the practice smacks to much of the "old crony" scene of years ago. What the motives are behind the things these three people propose I do not know but one thing I am certain of is within a couple of years we are going to have a lot more serious things to consider when we begin to see the large land owners of the area pitted against the renters and small land owners in the gas drilling venture. As soon as the large land owners really realize just how much money is at stake they will like hogs at a feeding trough do their best to drive everyone else out of the trough. So, from that point of view some of the things these "down-staters" propose may make sense; I do not know.
August 24, 2012 21:05:23 Reasonable   Observer - You really need to pay attention to what has been happening at the Board meetings over the last several months. Do you enjoy life in Masonville the way we are accustomed to with little regulation and government oppression? These folks really want to fundementally change our Town and make it more like a down-state community. Please do not get me wrong, I am sure they mean their best and have sincere intentions. In some ways I feel sorry for them because they will never be able to fully comprehend the Town's history or know the background of the generations of family roots established in our community. It isnt that they want bad things...they simply do not see burdensome regulations, redundant laws and government control of peoples freedoms as those of us who have always lived here. This is all they know so it doesnt personally affect them the same way. An elder once told me, "people dont know what they dont know"...which i think is exactly the situation with some of our residents, as well-intentioned as they may be.
August 24, 2012 15:27:57 Observer   I thought the we'un versus them thar or hillbilly against city slicker died out long ago? Good grief 90% of the residents of Delaware county are from someplace "downstate".
August 24, 2012 14:43:25 What!   Reasonable the locals are running? How about these citizens of Masonville who want to serve our town are running. Remember when it comes to voting who cares where you were born but how you want your community to operate in the best interest of everyone.
August 23, 2012 21:54:31 Reasonable   The locals that are running are Mike Spaccaforno, our current supervisor, Craig DuMond, our current Councilman and Steve Roff, long-time local and community member who was just appointed to fill a vacancy on the Board. The following challengers, who are the anti-everything, pro-regulation and pro-zoning are Troy Ramage (running for supervisor), Maria Sroka (running against Craig for Council) and Kathleen Kloptchin (running against Steve Roff for council). These three individuals are running as sheep in wolf's clothing...they are running as independents, however, all have deep down-state radical views and want more laws, more regulations and actually create zoning!!! Maria Sroka and her group have made a mockery out of the Board meetings, disrespecting everyone and basically telling our locals how stupid they are because they dont agree with their views. Supervisor Spaccaforno finally had enough at the last meeting and shut their rhetoric down. This election is probably the most important election in our Town's history! Masonville is one of the very few Towns left in the County without zoning and restrictive land regulations. Many other Town Boards have been flipped by these type of individuals and the locals have seen their Towns radically changed forever. I, for one, will be assiting in any way I can to keep our current Town Board in place and I ask the silent majority to join me. We, the silent majority, can not sit back and take for granted out locals will automatically get elected again this year. GET OUT AND VOTE FOLKS! Your freedom and local property rights literally depend on it!!!
August 22, 2012 12:53:11 Who?   Does any one know who is running for town board this year.
August 20, 2012 22:53:45 bertimouse   Hi what? If everyone had your NIMBY syndrome then where would gas drilling ever happen, eh? We thinks only out West in the big sky country.
August 19, 2012 22:56:26 Craig DuMond   I was very saddened to return home from a week at the Fair and hear the news of Stew's passing. I received an email from him on the 12th and he passed on the 15th. Stew and Betty (DuMond) were community icons for many years. Stew have so freely of himself for the betterment of the Town, School, Church, etc. etc. etc. The world lost one truly great friend and patriot! They do do make them like Stwart anymore! God Bless you and be with Betty and the rest of the family during this most difficult time.
August 18, 2012 07:20:46 Lisa McDonald lisamac@frontier.com Stewart Wilcox and his wonderful wife, Betty, were great friends and the best of neighbors. They have been sorely missed since their move to Syracuse to be closer to family. They taught me much about the essence of the meaning of "neighbor" and "community." That these are not just words...they are an integral foundation of our way of life here in Masonville. RIP, Stewart.
August 17, 2012 19:49:34 Mormon Hollow Farm   Our sympathy to the Wilcox family and friends , the loss of Stewart was the loss of a life long friend.
August 17, 2012 09:13:49 Kathy K klpchn@yahoo.com Just want to express sympathy to the Wilcox family for the passing of Stewart Wilcox. So sorry to hear.
August 17, 2012 08:25:43 Denis Burpoe   Marie your post was interesting but nothing new. All concerned residents in Masonville have been folling the issues of horizontal fracking. I personaly have no gain wether New York State DEC permits it or not. You also stated that fracking is the issue of our times, I would like to disagree. I feel that the issue of our times right now today is the input of herion that is being shipped into our area by other countries and getting our children addicted, How it is destroying familys and lives. This has turned many of our young adults into theives, liars and no use to our communities. Read the papers call you local Sheriff ask the question. Marie we have real problems in all our comunities today and fracking will be addressed but if we do not stand up to the scum that is infusing our communties we will be building bigger jails and burying our future.
August 16, 2012 23:26:04 what?   FYI berti, the facts about the film 'Gasland' is, well it is lacking in facts, much of it has been debunked, some of it is down right lies. Read, New York Times article Groundtruthing Academy Award Nominee 'Gasland' Published: February 24, 2011. I am a anti-fracker, pro-driller, just don't do it in my back yard.
August 16, 2012 20:53:34 bertimouse   To Marie Sroka- Well spoken. HEAR HERE! You sound like a lawyer but we agree that the TOM supers comments, amoung other comments by some here Do Not reflect the majority of those who live here. We All have the right to Vote whether weve lived here for generations or freaking whatever - 2 months? That should not matter for anyone who Loves Masonville. We have no problem with the TOM government, though we disagree sometimes with their decisions. As Denis Burpoe has suggested in some of his posts-let the November Elections reflect the true majority. As other posts have also suggested, just 10 folks showing up at the TOM board mtgs. every month DO NOT represent the entire town. A Town-wide VOTE is the only way to decide anything that is of major importance and impact to the TOM. Remember TOM Board? Nuff Said.
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