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Febuary 03, 2009 16:29:02 LOL   Simon Cameron (Lincoln's first Secretary of State) was asked to define an honest politician. He replied, "That is easy, an honest politician is one who when bought stays bought." Seems this day and age has an over abundance of "honest" politicians ranging from the least of the local offices to the highest offices in the land. I observe with dismay, but no surprise, the problems our new "Savior" President is having in filling his cabinet. He obviously is finding that "honest" politicians far outnumber the "unbought". Watching the "pupitmaster" White House Press Secretary pulling the strings of the media puppets with a smirk on his face has given me many a chuckle, along with idigestion. Perhaps of our "honest" politicians paid their fair share of taxes we would not be having the financial problems in the country we are having.
Febuary 02, 2009 13:32:15 Masonville Town Clerk   Today opening Tax bills to process I received a $100.00 Check from Joann Aymar For the Masonville EMS. She in in a group with 9 other ladies 6 from Masonville and they choose to donate to a local organization. She said God Bless to all in these uncertain times.Well I say God bless to her and all those nice ladies I'm sure the Masonville EMS can sure use this. What a great Day.
Febuary 01, 2009 18:38:18 bertimouse   Crappie Derby Update: Well,it was a COLD day & I learned allot about Ice fishing & how to stay warm(bring extra socks & gloves)!-Next weekend there is another Ice Fishing Contest up at Gilbert's Lake I think - that one fishes for Perch - another good eating fish. -BTW, no one asked me when I registered if I had a current fishing license...I think next spring they will cost about $28?! We think that Masonville should sponsor an Ice Fishing Derby at Oquaga State Park next year if it's cold enough...GREAT WINTER FUN & a great way to make some coin for local group organizations. Ice Fishing is FUN! :) And no,altho I got a few nibbles & 1 minnow stolen,didn't catch anything but enjoyed the day anyway. See you next weekend at Gilbert's Lake, eh? :)
January 30, 2009 23:22:28 bertimouse   Dear Concerned Taxpayer: Speaking of fishing; Do you know of Anyone who is Going to the Crappy Derby at Whitney Point tomorrow? My experienced fishing folks didn't want to go,err.Said it was too cold,errr.Was bummed out about that as my birthday is next week & I was looking for some fun. Well,driving home from work tonight I decided to buy myself a nice fishing pole & lures at KMart & just get up&go anyway by myself.I'll be looking for someone to cut a hole in the ice for me but other than that small detail,I'm fishing!-I've got my bucket,my fishing pole,my lures,(gotta get some minnows in the a.m.)my long johns,big coat,2 pairs of socks,2 pairs of gloves,something to sit on & that's all(ha ha I think)I need to have a bit of birthday fun just trying to catch me some nice tasty crappies for supper. Wish me luck yall. Anyone else that might be interested in joining in on the fun can check out the details at
January 30, 2009 23:08:06 bertimouse   Hi LOL: Nah,you're all right. But then again I must still have my rose-colored glasses on eh? :) We here know that you care deeply about your issues too & that's fine with us.
January 26, 2009 12:03:19 concern taxpayer   When you hold a public office you open yourself to comments, good and bad. You also know that there is a lot of time involved. I too have held offices in many orangizations and it takes up alot of my own time. If you are not willing to put in or give up time then you shouldn't take the position. After talking with other people, they feel the same way. They also feel that the clerk and the clerk's office should be easier to get to. Does the town get revnue from fishing and hunting licenses?
January 26, 2009 10:25:59 LOL   Bertimouse - In answer to your question: Yes, I have served in a public office. My point being an answer to PGPM. Serving in a public office is NOT some sort of punishment but rather a choice the person makes. Most in public office serve out of a sense of duty and a need for public recognition or they may serve out of a perceived position of power or authority. And with that thought in mind; I would wager one could find more people willing to serve as tax assessor than would be willing to serve as Town Supervisor. I, unlike you, do not view life through rose colored glasses nor do I view public office holders as some sort of "god" worthy of my awe and worship. As to liking Masonville: If I did not like the Masonville area I would not be here. Masonville is a nice quiet country area and a pleasant place to live. I am sure there are nice people as well as not so nice people in the Masonville area and I guess I fall in the "not so nice" category by your standards.
January 25, 2009 21:37:33 bertimouse   Thank you Proud Green Party Member; I also don't always agree with(anyone!)but as my Grandmother always said "The first hundred years are the Hardest" :) My father always said that "Life is a Game." :) My Mom always says "Be on Good Terms with All People" :) -Mesh all that together & I guess you get my philosophy with a little Beatles music mixed in. Thanks for my 15 minutes of Fame & Peace to you too.
January 25, 2009 21:26:34 bertimouse   Oh Dear LOL,What exactly is the point of your last comment? Have you ever held a public office anywhere? If not,then maybe you should try to do so, that way you could "walk a mile in their shoes" before you are so ready to condemn them, eh? Peace, my brother. It Takes Hard Work To Run Any Town & there are many "un-sung" heroes living here - Many Good Neighbors whom You Have Never Met that just may save your life someday in some way. People usually serve in a public office because they CARE.-Your unkind words(i.e. "laughing about about town gov't folks whining?")-Is Verbal Abuse On Your Part whether you realize it or not. Please Stop. Don't you have anything Good to say about Masonville?
January 25, 2009 14:42:18 George Denys Gotta love this board!!!
January 25, 2009 13:42:20 LOL   PGPM - Sorry your reasoning that the Tax assessors job is one no one wants does not hold up or hold water. Apparently "someone" wants it. There never seems to be a lack of persons willing to take the job. As to any person on the Board or elsewhere in town government; perhaps it is not the highest paying job in the world but there is always someone willing to do it and no one is holding a gun to any of their heads to force them into the job. I always get a laugh out of those that will run for the job and then whine that they are not being compensated enough or they are being abused.
January 25, 2009 10:40:42 Masonville Town Clerk   The 7 people.Our Town Justice retired so that was filled by Judy Jackson who was the Court Clerk so Laurie Burpoe filled the Court Clerk. Stewart Wilcox Councilmen resigned due to a move so Mike Spaccaforno filled that. Both Mike and Judy will go on Balllot in November. Highway Superintendent Chuck Smith just got elected this November.Chuck was Deputy Super., so that was filled by Gordon Finch. Historian Jeri Brayman,CEO Building offical Joe Reynolds. Deputy Hwy. Supt.,Historian and CEO are all appointed yearly. Hope that helps. Pam
January 24, 2009 21:41:46 Unaware   I think Pam does a good job. If she wasn't I don't think she would be at it all these years. Thanks Pam!!! I have a question! Who are the 7 people that were recently taking an oath and what was it for? Was there some sort of openng in the town that I wasn't aware of? I know alot of things may be talked about at the town meetings but I can not coem to meetings and never hear about any thing going on unless it's on Grumpy's site.
January 23, 2009 22:10:21 Proud green party member   P.S. Bertimouse, I don't always agree with you but I admire your civility here. You are a class act.
January 23, 2009 22:06:19 Proud green party member   If you do the math on your tax bill it comes out to just over 4%. It was explained to me long ago why the difference. If I remember right it has to do with the change in the tax base from year to year. That changes the % and rate per $1000. but the math still comes out to 4%. As for our Town Clerk, She doesn't get paid much. We can't afford much here in Masonville but she gives us back alot more than she is getting paid so lay off unless you want to dig out of your own pocket. Same goes for the Tax assesor. A job nobody would want but are happy to bash. You people make me sick with your constant complaining. The people at the Town board do alot with a little and their pay doesn't even cover their gas!! Jack Thomas and Craig Dumond are the two to thank for a solvent town, the rest of the board too. No debt and people complain. Unbelivable.
January 23, 2009 16:43:47 Happy tax payer   I've had no issues with the Town Clerk ,she returns my calls in a timely manner! The "Old management" at the Highway Dept.was hard to get but the new supt. is same day or the next day. I take the getting of the machine as the guys are out working!!!
January 23, 2009 16:20:09 concerned taxpayer   I am not saying that we need to have 9:00 to 5:00 hours but some set hours would be helpful. I to work for a living. I think a few hours a couple nights a week and saturday mornings would be a great help.
January 23, 2009 12:21:13 Masonville Town Clerk   I work during the day-yes i have to make a living to. Call and leave a message i get back that day or next including phone calls for me many for the justice, Hwy. Dept. Ect. Hours how about those late night hunting license's 9:00 p.m.-10:00 p.m. Sundays early morning 6:00 A.M. or any time. I make arangements for all those who need the Clerk.Tax season yes is by appointment it is a very busy time and I want no one to be late on there payment so if you make that appointment I will be there or drop of in the mail along with the other 100 people daily.Sorry if I haven't been there for all, but I try. Many have e-mailed me from this site you can do that to if you like. Thanks Pamela Walker
January 22, 2009 23:21:48 bertimouse   Sorry folks but here's one more thing I gotta say BTW, The Masonville Town Clerk doesn't get paid much. She's always returned our phone calls with questions & responds WAY quicker than say, our highly paid & funded Highway Department answering machine. If Folks here want more working hours for the Clerk it would automatically translate into higher local taxes. So which would you really rather have during these times? A.)An inconvenient 12 mile(?)round-trip ride down the hill to Sidney twice a year or B.)An annual increase in taxes(whatever that would be)to pay for a full-time Town Clerk? or C.)Keep the same hours for the Clerk but "tweek" the days/times to be more convenient for all of Masonville's citizens who need her services?
January 22, 2009 22:57:17 bertimouse   A Town Clerk available for who, when & for what? Those who work 9 to 5 from Monday to Friday that can't afford to take time off to get there? Retirees/Unemployed folks/Household Caretakers who are available 9 to 5 during the week? How about on SATURDAY mornings like the post office; when just about Everyone has some time off to get there?
January 22, 2009 14:51:00 Taxpayer 3   Let's get a clerk who can be available!
January 22, 2009 00:18:31 I pay taxes too   Shes NEVER home. I and every one I know has to go to Sidney or elsewhere to get fishing or hunting licence. Town Clerks are usually 9:00-5:00 jobs Right ? Try to make an appointment between those hours and see what happens. Remember when Betty's door was always open.
January 21, 2009 19:55:20 LOL   Concern Taxpayer - Since I have lived in this area the Town Clerk has been pretty near as hard to contact as the President. Don't know why. Most towns have a Clerk readily accesible.
January 21, 2009 14:01:44 concern taxpayer   A few questions. 1) Why wasn't job openings for the town ever advertised? Meaning the part time highway position and the court clerk position. 2) What is going on with the big dirt pile where the old Wilcox farmers market was? 3) A board member said that our taxes only increased 4+ percent, but on the tax bills it says 6.6% why is that? 4) Years ago you were able to just go to the town clerks to conduct business, but now you have to make an appointment? That is very inconvenient. When did this change and who makes the decision? There should be set hour for the town clerk. The Assessor has hours, so why shouldn't the clerk?
January 20, 2009 20:34:59 Bob Dunbar 188 Million dollars. Just to say I will. Democrat or whatever, you should be very mad. I know of too many people who cannot even afford to heat their homes right here in Masonville. This was their money. Shot in a day.
January 19, 2009 21:42:48 Craig DuMond   The Masonville Fire Department and Ambulance Squad is holding a "New Members Drive" in an attempt to solicit new volunteers to serve our Department. The Dept is in dire need of additional volunteers. Being a Fire Dept. or EMS volunteer is a rewarding way to contribute to one's community, earing the respect and admiration of all. Any interested individual should see a member of the Fire Department.
January 19, 2009 00:32:56 bertimouse   Dear "HAPPY" - THANKS FOR BEING ALL THAT. Peace, Love & Happiness to you & yours. Take Care driving in the snow, wherever you go, eh? It was supposed to be 3" of snow but instead it was a rather freakish 6 inches instead eh? Nuff-Said, nuff-done. Dear Happy: I LOVE SNOW IN MASONVILLE, & i will always love comments like yours...keep at it.
January 18, 2009 12:10:29 George Denys Happy.......AMEN!!!!!!
January 16, 2009 03:55:17 Masonville   Interesting old article.
January 15, 2009 19:44:15 McK66 Productions (board tech for BearPaws WebWorks) TO: DVV You can include a web link for someone - it just can't be "clickable" - so you have to start with www and not h-t-t-p - also, if you "copy and paste" directly from a web page, you should probably paste the link into a plain text editor (such as NotePad on Windows systems) to remove any web formatting before copying *that* link and pasting *that* link into your message here... Hope this helps!
January 14, 2009 00:56:46 brrr   :) :) :)
January 13, 2009 21:24:55 farmer   Batten down the hatches old man winter is coming. Put on the long johns the next couple of days is going to be very chilly.
January 13, 2009 00:54:54 Happy   Is this a political forum where you come to bash people. Why such nonsense ? Is there not enough problems in this world ? Why so angry ? Be nice. It is too depressing to come here. Maybe why it is a dead forum.
January 07, 2009 13:47:25 LOL   Big deal about seating an appointed US Senator from Illinois. I fail to understand what the furor is all about. So, one more crook in the US Senate? We already have 99 blood sucking political crooks serving in that body now. What difference is one more going to make? So he was appointed by a crooked governor. Name even ONE governor that is not a crook. (New York State specializes in crooked governors.) For that matter name even ONE politician that is not a crook. Honest politician is an oxymoron. Oh well, there is light on the horizon though. If Princess ("you know") Kennedy gets Mother Hillary's ( "you know") senate seat she is too dumb ("you know") to be a crook.
January 06, 2009 00:29:38 DVV   I tried to paste a site for you LOL. Maybe that is why my message does not come up. I wanted to tell you that the person you are looking for maybe Aurea Getter.You can find information on the Delaware County History Site.
January 06, 2009 00:22:57 DVV   Not Working , I give up
January 06, 2009 00:14:51 test   hello
January 04, 2009 13:40:19 LOL   Looking for information concerning an individual by the name of Awra Getter who resided in the Masonville area and served in the 104th Ohio during the Civil War.
January 02, 2009 16:35:16 LOL   18 MORE DAYS!!!!! 18 more days and everything in the world will be corrected. No more wars, poverty, unemployment, crooked politicians. And best of all it will usher in the utopia we have all wished for!!!
December 28, 2008 17:28:03 bertimouse   FOUND - OLDER KITTEN: On 12/28/08 at the Sidney Town Hwy. Dept. Garage on rte. 23: Obviously LOST or Abandoned? I checked but none of the surrounding households have lost this little one. ************************************* PLEASE if anyone knows of anyone that's lost this little guy, Please contact either me here or the Sidney Town Shelter tomorrow (12/29)afternoon. He's between 4-7 months old, male un-neutered, dark tiger-colored, smart, talkative, cuddly, "strange-dog" friendly, litter-trained & was very hungry! I'd love to keep him but I just can't. He's a real "cuddle-bug" & would love to have some kids to play with, as he follows you like a shadow.
December 25, 2008 09:48:14 George Denys Wondering, The town board appointed the new member to fill the remaining term of Mr. Wilcox. He will serve as an appointed member until the next election per NYS election law. George Denys.
December 25, 2008 09:45:16 George Denys I wish you a very merry Christmas everyone!! George
December 25, 2008 01:58:27 Ranger Danger.   Merry Christmas everyone.
December 24, 2008 14:59:55 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Sorry about the delay in the December Council Meeting Minutes. They were forwarded to me late, and by now I fear my webmaster (BearPaws) is out of town and away from his computer! I'm sure he'll have them up before too long.
December 22, 2008 11:39:23 LOL   It is precious how NYS politics works! Caroline Kennedy wants Mother Hillary's abandoned post as NYS Senator and to insure her getting it she jumped in with both feet to make sure the entire world was aware of her desire. She courted the upstate "hicks" so she would not be viewed as a "downstater" only. (Although this was probably the first time she realized there was more to the State of New York than NYC and LI) Now she has placed our somewhat Messianic Governor between a "rock and hard place". He can appoint her and snub all the others who are slavering to get the job or he can publicly snub a Kennedy. Snubbing the "Royal Family" could spell his political death. (Not that we would be losing much.) I think the entire thing rather humorous
December 22, 2008 11:15:49 LOL   Bertimouse? I hope your use of the word "Dually" in your message was a play on words? Yes, I agree that sometimes people are "Dually" elected in NYS (elected by the people but actually elected by the other politicians who want them in spite of what the electors want) but would hope they were "duly" elected. :)
December 22, 2008 10:56:40 Answering   Wondering No, no special election just business as usual in a small town.
December 22, 2008 10:52:20 Wondering   Who is Michael Spaccaforno? And, was there a special election, to replace the resigned Board member, that we did not know about?
December 19, 2008 21:28:50 Grumpy Ernst Keidel He did my deck, thanks for noticing! Bruce Kellogg General Contracting 1074 County Route 39 Bainbridge, NY 607-316-3332 Would I recommend him? Well, come and take a closer look at my deck and tell me what you think. I am very pleased, because it solves a dire problem. The ground slopes at a severe angle in front of my home and the new deck and stairs bridge the gap to level ground and prevent me from slipping on an icy incline and falling on my *CENSORED*! This happened to my wife and me four times, last winter!
December 18, 2008 21:25:34 wshbown   grumpyz do you have the name of the guy who did your deck and would you recomend him thanks
December 18, 2008 15:00:40 2 cents   Do ya think Mr. Dunbar that someone should take off their shoes ? Hehehe
December 17, 2008 00:03:12 bertimouse   Dear Mr. Dunbar; 1)Wasn't this message board supposed to have a 250 word limit? :) :) :) 2)Whether you believe it or not, All who are in Power Now are NOT Rabid Liberals, although they would like you to think they are so, just to screw with your minds...& I can assure you that yes, both parties do that. But, All politicians in NYS are Dually,Legally,Rightfully Elected-Of the people-By the people & For the people as your own Grand Daughter reminded you of recently? I commend her for having the courage to tell you how she voted.[There are many young folks in Masonville that didn't vote or register at all. Shame On You for not at least congratulating her that she did her civic duty to vote.] 3)Your Masonville Message Board "Political Ranting"(I gotta say this to ya,sorry)is getting kind of old. If you wish to rant politically, please join a group for that. Please. Otherwise Bob I Love you much & wish you a Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. Please be well & be at Peace Mr. with this world because you know we all need that now more than ever, eh? Again; Peace Bob.
December 15, 2008 12:56:50 Grumpy Ernst Keidel "What's next? Tax the air we breathe." No doubt! And those of us who weigh more than 250 lbs. will have to pay at a higher rate!
December 15, 2008 08:43:03 Small shoulders   Has anyone seen the new ideas to raise money? Tax the farmer for their burping cows and tax high sugar foods. One of the basis of this country was to get away from all the taxes that were being imposed on us. What's next? Tax the air we breathe.
December 15, 2008 04:35:25 LOL   Think of it this way, it's only for four years!
December 14, 2008 22:21:00 Bob Dunbar My Predictions for The New Obama "Presidency" Now that America has shown us all that Affirmative Action even works in politics, I've compiled a list of things that you can probably expect to happen. These predictions are 80% gleaned from information all of us have access to, and 15% gut instinct based on many years of research, historical study, and being glued to current affairs. The other 5% is just anger at my countrymen's stupidity--I admit it. - Websites and mass e-mails offering "free grants," courtesy of the Government and "Obama's wealth redistribution." Actually, this one's a freebie, because I have an email with a date and time-stamp of literally minutes after Obama was declared the winner, offering exactly that. - Israel will understand this election was the end of any type of assistance, military or otherwise, from the U.S., and will stop holding back their defense at the request of the American Administration. Look for a first strike on Iran soon, as well as increased activity by the Israeli military in general. Israel is on her own now, and God help us all because of it. - Look for Iranian retaliation--against American targets. That goes doubly for other terrorist organizations. We just elected a man with the full endorsement of every major terrorist group in the world as leader of the free world. It's the political equivalent of hiring a child molester to babysit your kids while you leave for the weekend. Not only is HE going to have fun with your child, but he'll probably sit and watch while his friends come over and do it too. - Look for far-left justices appointed to the Supreme Court, effectively tying up the entire government in a trifecta of liberal humanism, the buzzwords of which remain empty platitudes like "hope and change," and the ultimate goal which is socialism--and soon, Sharia law. - Military cases of troops being tried and convicted for killing the enemy in combat will continue to rise--and the conviction/plea-bargain rate will stay at nearly 100%, as the government seeks to use the best men and women this country has to offer as sacrificial lambs on the altar of global appeasement. Those brave and honorable men who currently reside in prison cells across the country, stripped of their rank, their careers, families, and their good name, will not taste free air again for many years. Their sacrifices and their stories will be forgotten by the general public, remembered only by those of us who continue to fight for them. - Look for the slow but steady erosion of rights you have enjoyed for your entire lives--all the while being told it's "for your own good." Restrictions on gun ownership, home schooling, encouraged dependence on the ever-growing federal government. More nanny-state provisions will be put into place to protect the "disadvantaged" and the "poor," (read: lazy, uneducated, unwilling to better themselves) even while groups like the unborn, the mentally handicapped, Elderly, and terminally ill are slowly pushed toward euthanasia. Of course, this will be done with feel-good phrases like "death with dignity," "not wanting to be a burden," and "merciful release from suffering," all of which ignore the basic fact that we are killing people without their consent for the "good of the people." Before you tell me I'm crazy, let's just remember that Barack Obama was the ONLY senator in the Illinois state senate to vote against providing medical care for babies who were inconsiderate enough to survive an abortion. Also, look for taxes to go up. Yes, they'll go up. - You think the economy is bad now? Just wait. You'll have the most expensive "free" health care ever. Bread lines aren't just for Russians anymore. We have traded experience for color, freedom for slavery--and the irony is that the average American people think their vote somehow righted an ancient wrong, somehow ENDED the spectra of slavery and Ushered in some beautiful era of liberty. In reality, we are about to be less free than you ever thought possible. I watched the faces of those crowded into the mob (excuse the pun) in Chicago. They stared at Obama like he was a God, an idol, a panacea to their every want and need. We have truly failed as a nation if we are at the point where we feel we must look to one man to take care of us all, to be our father figure and our sugar daddy. We have lost not only the "can-do" attitude of past generations, but the "MUST-do" attitude of our forefathers. We have allowed ourselves to become reduced from Patrick Henry's proud cry of "liberty or death" to the sniveling, whining idea that we are owed something. We have gone from being the honorable defenders of freedom, to being told we are the problem. The eyes of Obama and McCain were also telling. McCain acted with class and grace in his concession speech, offering the most honorable response I've seen yet. I don't agree with all of McCain's positions, but it cannot be denied that the man has served his nation - at permanent and severe detriment to himself - for half a century. His eyes were clear and sincere, honest. His speech underlined the very reasons why, of the two men offered, he was hands down the best choice. On the other hand, Obama's eyes were cold, calculating. His manner was smug and still carried the arrogance he has always had. His facial expression was one of barely disguised disdain for everything people like me believe in. His body language was smooth, polished--too much so. He talked of patriotism as though it is a value he is familiar with--and yet, his horrifying attitude toward the country he now leads is as well-documented as his friendships with those who seek its demise. He is charismatic to those who don't know what to look for, and he is inspiring to those who cannot or will not think for themselves. However, too many who voted for him are guilty of the most dangerous kind of hypocrisy. You see, we are told daily that we must not see color, just mankind. (We are all family, you know--or so we're told.) And yet Barack Obama was handed the White House on a silver platter by a fawning media, a bevy of foreign donors (who, to this day and in violation of U.S. election laws, remain nameless and unaccounted for), and a populace who voted based on color instead of right and wrong--even in the face of the most damning evidence against a Presidential candidate in many years, perhaps ever. It is said that the people receive the government they deserve. Sadly, I fear that's correct. We have become complacent, unwilling to see the writing on the wall, content to frolic in the warm water without bothering to notice that it's been getting hotter by the minute. We are two seconds from a rolling boil--and perhaps it is already too late. So, liberals, enjoy your victory. Jump around. Have a party, file for your free grants. Scream "Gimme my handout!" and make fun of those of us who fought to make sure your "messiah" didn't get access to the most powerful position in the world. Just remember when it all comes crashing down: You own the White House, the Congress, and soon the Supreme Court. You have no one to blame but yourselves for the mess you just created. As for me, I'm buying my handguns this week so I have an answer for those who will come try to take them.
December 13, 2008 18:33:04 bertimouse   Thank you Craig, again. We love this Town too. :) Happy Holidays to all! :)
December 12, 2008 11:33:41 Sharon Wist Back in the late 50's, I attended first and second grades in a one-room schoolhouse on Johnny Brook Road in the Cannonsville area. My teacher was a dear woman named Mrs. Wood, who came from the Masonville area. Her home was on Route 8, a green house on the right as you are approaching Masonville from the Deposit end. The house and barn are still there. Are there any members of the Wood family still in the area? If so, does anyone have an address that I might use to contact them? Thank you.
December 08, 2008 23:00:46 Craig DuMond   Hi Berti - No offence here! I appreciate your questions and your involvement. After what I went through with the Sidney CSD BOE I am committed to public input and consideration. We may not always agree but I guarantee you will always be permitted to offer your opinion. The Delaware County Board of Supervisors does have a website and the Board minutes are posted. Go to Once on the site click on 'government' then 'board of supervisors' and then look on the left column for 'meetings and minutes'. As far as further watershed info, please contact the Delaware County Department of Watershed affairs at 607-746-8914 or Commissioner Dean Frasier is an expert and a wealth of information...tell him I told you to call! Also, you may want to check out regarding other NYC DEP info as well. Yes, the Town donated $1,000 to the Coalition of Watershed Towns toward the on-going fight against NYC DEP....the County donated $50,000 as well. I appreciate your vote of confidence and will continue to work hard to represent your best interests, regardless of political affiliation. I love this Town and everybody in it and want the best future for all of us! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well and best of health in the upcoming New Year!
December 07, 2008 15:51:31 Mom 2   Thank God for my Grandpa's. They are all gone now, but I thank God they were not like you ! Although I never asked them for anything. They would have given me the shirt off their back, and not once complained !
December 06, 2008 18:26:47 Bob Dunbar Guess you heard that 68% of "the youth vote" went to Obama. My granddaughter called this morning to tell me she was one of them. I replied with this e-mail: The election of Obama comes down to this. Your grandmother and I , your mother and other productive wage earning tax payers will have their taxes increased and that means less income. Less income means we will have to cut back on basic purchases , gifts and handouts. That includes firing the Hispanic lady who cleans our house twice a month. She just lost her job. We can't afford her anymore. What is the economic effect of Obama's election on you personally? Over the years , your grandmother and I have given you thousands of dollars in food , housing , cash , clothing , gifts , etc. , etc. By your vote , you have chosen another family over ours for help. So in the future , if you need assistance with your rent , money for gas , tires for you car , someone to bring you lunch , etc. ... call 202-456-1111. That's the telephone number for the Office of the President of the United States . I'm sure Mr. Obama will be happy to send a check from his personal or business accounts or leave cash in an envelope taped to his front door. It's like this. Those who vote for the president should consider what the impact of an election will be on the nation as a whole and not just be concerned with what they can get for themselves (welfare , etc.). What Obama voters don't seem to realize is that the government's money comes from taxes collected from tax paying families. Raising taxes on productive people means they will have less money to spend on their families. Congratulations on your choice. For future reference , you might attempt to add up all you've received from us , your mom , Mike's parents and others and compare it to what you expect to get over the next four years from Mr. Obama. To congratulate Mr. Obama and to make sure you're on the list for handouts , write to: The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW Washington , DC 20500 Love you Lauren , but call the number listed above when you need help. Granddad
December 05, 2008 19:37:29 bertimouse   Hi Craig, Thank You for your Courteous & Informative response to my frustrated-sounding questions about NYC-LAP. People tell me nowadays that "it's a sign of the times". I'm a curious question asker & sometimes they are hard-edged. I apologize if I offended anyone by them. I do not intend meanness to anyone anywhere in my life. Mr. Bob Dunbar should be as happy as I am to learn again about your reported actions of the County Board of Supervisors & this Town for their efforts. Does the Delaware County Board of Supervisors have a website for posting their meeting reports? If they do,what is it? Can the site be noted on our Masonville site or would that cost extra $$$ to do so? If they don't have a Couny-Wide website,shouldn't they? Here again just curious&asking...-My New Year's resolution is to "BIP" (Blog,Inform&Phone) more people about this NYC-LAP issue. Thank You for your advice, but where do I start? I will be eagerly awaiting the LAP Economic Impact Study Report, that I'm sure you'll be telling us all about as soon as you can. Also,as I recall didn't the Masonville Town Board vote to send $1,000 to the Coalition of Watershed Towns to help fund their litigation efforts a while ago? And Lastly, to the Honorable Mr. Craig DuMond, Town of Masonville Elected Republican Supervisor I say: I & "we" at this household personally don't care who's in "control" of anything, anywhere as long as they are Honest, Responsible & Hard-Working which is all you can ask from anyone. You have demonstrated these qualities & more for me & mine & shall always have my personal vote for that. Peace to you & yours & Have a Merry Christmas. :)*********[Err, Have a Happy Holiday]is now the "politically & socially correct" thing to say instead now, Eh? (This is bertimouse & I approve of this message) [You all are supposed to laugh now, hopefully...]
December 03, 2008 23:17:14 Craig DuMond   The county Board of Supervisors sent informational letters to property owners with parcels of 5 or more acres approx. a year ago. Plus as you already know, we have also commissioned an economic impact study of the LAP with many public hearings all over the County. The results of the study shoud be ready for public distribution late winter/early spring. Also, th Coalition of Watershed Towns has on-going litigation concernong the LAP and we are constantly passing resolutions on the County and Town Level, and forwarding to appropriate parties concerning the LAP. What can individuals do? Inform each blogs....make phonecalls...write letters to the editor, etc.
December 03, 2008 22:54:42 Bob Dunbar *CENSORED* Bertimouse, It's your side doing this!!! What do you think should happen? Democrats are in complete control. Don't ever forget it.
December 03, 2008 22:35:43 bertimouse   So Craig, what are your proposals for a "Masonville Action Plan" on the LAP issue? You say that more land owners need to be informed about this but what has the Town of Masonville actually done to promote that besides this Message Board & your speaking up at the Town Meetings? We can't wait months & months for final committee Meeting reports on things that you've been talking about for 3 years! Just tell us Craig, how do you propose Masonville to "aggressively fight this on a Town & County Level" now? Can you please tell us what pointed action is needed right now?
December 02, 2008 22:20:22 Craig DuMond   Dear LOL - I have discussed this topic many times at several Board meetings over the past 3 years. You understand the situation perfectly. I applaud that! I only wish more people had 'their eye on the ball". The threat is very real and will have a devestating effect on Delaware County and the Towns within. We are aggressively fighting this on the Town and County level. More people need to get informed and involved. If the city is allowed to purchase 250 thousand acres of Delaware County property it is becoming clear our taxes will increase at least 300% within 10 years. How many folks will be able to afford that? The time has come for us to educate each other on the dangers on selling land to the city.
December 02, 2008 19:30:09 LOL   Mr. DuMund - I am sure the topic of land acquisition by the NYC water authority has been a topic at the Supervisors meetings as it pretty much involves most of Delaware County. - The fact that NYC will spend any amount to meet their goals has been obvious since the completion of the Cannonsville system. The fact that they have plenty of time left to accomplish their goals is the only reason that they have not been pushing the issue more than they have to this date. - After 1996 and the devestating floods in the Eastern part of the County I attended several land acquistion meetings in the Fleischamanns - Margaretville area. It was obvious from the beginning that there were many willing and anxious sellers and the city took advantage of that fact. - It has been over 10 years since the flood and creeping up on the 10 year limit on the tax base. The city will soon, if not already, begin to contest the tax rate. I am not sure what the tipping point will be in this matter but the City will certainly bide their time and acquire the land they want over the next few years. - When they have acquired enough land to cause the whole thing to crumble those that are left will scramble to sell at any price. - The economic situation in an already strained area such as Delaware County will not convince people to fight the issue. NYC has made it abundantly clear over the years that they would like to see the entire Delaware Watershed turned into a wilderness and rich man's playground. - While the City is supposedly faced with the possiblity of having to construct a water filtration-treatment facility it, in actuality, is an impossiblity to construct and maintain such a huge and complex enterprise with the knowledge and ability we have today. By the time such a facility was finished it would be obsolete and they would be back at square one. - Supplying the amount of potable water needed by the City from a watershed was a fanciful idea to begin with. Desalination was suggested years ago and was not acted on. - Desalination is really the only common sense thing for them to do. It has proved viable and do-able in many places throughout the world. - Between the Rockafeller and Gould interests buying vast acreage and turning it Forever Wild the City will not have to purchase as much as they first imagined making it a very real future for Delaware County.
December 02, 2008 19:29:38 George Denys LOL, This has happened before and the shooter was prosecuted. I am unsure as to the law in question. I just remember it being an otherwise protected animal. George
December 02, 2008 00:36:11 Ranger Danger.   Sorry to double post, but the talk of the DEC reminded me of yesterday. I had five different DEC vehicles just a ways down the road from my home that had stopped a civilians Truck. I have no clue what happened or why they would need so many officers. Does anyone know what happened?
December 02, 2008 00:33:40 Ranger Danger.   LOL, I would report that to the NYSDEC anyway. I'm quite sure that shooting a clearly radio tagged animal is illegal anyway. Something to do with Federal Research. Oh, and ANYTHING is edible if you have the stomach for it. I want to try some Racoon, I hear it's very good. Backwoods, thank you for the Congrats. Do I know you?
December 01, 2008 19:15:39 LOL   George - I am not really sure what the story is on the shooting. I understand that the Mountain Lion has been declared extirpated in the state of New York so technically there is no such animal in the state. They are federally protected in all states although a minimal amount of permits are issued in some states to hunt them i.e. Washington state. While the picture I was shown was definately a Mountain Lion, (supposedly shot near Windsor) and even had a radio collar. I have no further evidence of such a thing and the DEC has no record of a Mountain Lion shooting in the State in many, many years. So I am wondering if the animal was shot in one of western states or even Canada and transported to this area and a story built up around it.
December 01, 2008 16:00:58 George Denys Shooting a Mountian Lion in NYS is a crime. Call DEC.
December 01, 2008 09:49:12 LOL   I was recently shown a picture of a Mountain Lion shot over near Windsor. I really wonder why any of our mighty hunters would want to kill such a beautiful and rare animal? It certainly is not edible. Nor was it any danger to anyone or anything except its natural prey. They are a solitary animal which wanders over hundreds of miles. An animal which is rarely seen by anyone, in this area in particular. Sad to think that anyone whould kill just for the short term notority of having killed the animal. I have seen a bobcat near our place on several occasions over the past few weeks. I suppose some mighty hunter will blast him into eternity as soon as it is spotted.
December 01, 2008 02:27:55 bertimouse   Hi Tony; Yes great visit we had but I have to say "but" - I would never want to live on L.I. ever again. (Sorry) ILMV. :) We missed the low tides on the North Shore to go picking oysters for the Champaign, Dam.
December 01, 2008 00:51:25 Tony CR-20   Sorry about your lonnnnnng trip Berti but that is exactly what it was...metal plates on the bridge! I hit that every weekend. Believe it or not...they were on both sides at one time causing traffic in both directions. Its been like that for almost a month now. Coming up...I usually get stuck there for about 20 minutes because I hit the bridge around 9 am on a Thursday or Friday morning so its not that bad. Anyway...hope your visit to the Island of Long was nice. All the best - Tony
November 30, 2008 23:21:19 bertimouse   Happy Thanksgiving to you too Tony. Hope yours was nice & Homey. We were in your(current)neck of the woods visiting old folks&friends which was great, but Geez-Louise the 8-1/2 hour drive back to Masonville was not! We wanted to leave the island by 9am but the folks kept us until 11am. We got to the 15 mile approach to the Tappan Zee Bridge by 12:15pm before hitting traffic,(1010 news radio blamed it on "metal plates" that were part of the "bridge construction")so for fun I timed it:first it took us 28 minutes to drive one mile,then 48 minutes to drive another mile,then another 39 minutes to drive the next mile,& so on until we actually got Onto The Bridge. By then everyone was so thankful to be at least rolling steadily along, most drivers were courteous. "Where are these @?# Metal Construction Plates that 1010 said were causing all this traffic?" I kept asking...didn't see them until I was actually on the bridge & they were nothing but eight bumps over a 45 mph bridge anyway. BFD,Argh. I personally think it was just a broad-casted excuse to cover up for the poor job NYC had in controlling the bridge traffic. We didn't see any traffic cops anywhere. They were probably all pulled to cover the so-called "terrorist-threat" in NYC.(We mused that they got the "intelligence-communications" wrong;they were really talking about India instead?)So,I was Very Thankful my old car didn't-not once-overheat in four-plus hours of traffic. I was Thankful that I didn't witness any cases of "road-rage" even though there were allot of jerks cutting people off right & left. I was Thankful that our dogs didn't have "to go". I was Thankful that my better half had allot of good reading material & things to eat,& also didn't have "to go". Lord we've never been stuck like that "going the other way"!-There were no accidents, no road construction cones holding things up-it was All Volume in the pouring rain. &After we crossed the Tappan Zee Bridge we finally started moving again. I pointed out(to my very grouchy spouse)that the traffic "going the other way" towards the City was backed-up traffic for the next 90 MILES! Even still we didn't get back to home-sweet-home Masonville until 7:30 pm! Now that's a personal record with no snow!***I tell you Tony,if the Spit-Ever-Hit the Fan on Long Island & you ever needed to get out of there fast?-Take a boat over to CT and WALK here! :) We'll come & pick you up with our horses. :) PL&H to you & yours this December.
November 30, 2008 21:36:18 Backwoods   Congradulations to Steve VanValkenburgh and his teenage son, Dakota for BOTH getting a black bear this hunting season within two weeks of each other. You know what they say, like father like son.
November 28, 2008 13:11:32 Tony CR-20 It's a little late but wishing & hoping everyone in Masonville had a Happy Thanksgiving! All the best - Tony CR-20
November 25, 2008 19:12:59 Kathy Hi Bertimouse - If I remember correctly, the $300 million is funded solely from fees that the city collects from water users (metered) in the city. Although I don't have anything written down about that so anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, it is definitely going to be a snowy Thanksgiving! Enjoy! -Kathy
November 24, 2008 18:35:48 bertimouse   Hi again Kathy, Thanks for your info. Yes I remember Craig urgently speaking about NYC's LAP quite awhile back. What I can't figure out now is where NYC expects to get the $300 million to purchase yet more land for the watershed. Are they federally & state funded? -Thanks for the on-line links I'll check 'em out. Have a nice warm & snowy(!)Thanksgiving. :)
November 24, 2008 12:08:26 LOL WCBZD Merry Christmas to all from our vermin politicians in Albany and D.C. Near one trillion dollars to bail out the fat cats and corrupt bankers. What the polititians and bankers and wall street parasites spend on (w)hores and booze for one retreat would run this town for 10 years. There is not a politician in Albany or D.C. that would not cut his or her own mother's throat with a dull butter knife to further their political aspirations and greed. Like cockroaches in a NYC tenement they scamper back to their sewers when exposed to light. Like Jim Jones saying the Kool-Aid is good they tell us that they are doing what is best for us. Both cesspools of Albany and D.C. need a good pumping. We would exterminate a pack of disease laden rats and we should get rid of the rat pack gnawing holes in the fabric of society.
November 24, 2008 06:22:21 Kathy Tonight, Monday November 24th, 7 pm at the Masonville General Store the Chenango, Delaware, Otsego Gas group will be showing Rural Impact, a 30-minute documentary about the horizontal-drilling/hydraulic-fracturing gas recovery techniques coming to central New York. The film highlights communities that have experienced the problems created by this type of drilling.
November 22, 2008 13:22:13 Craig DuMond   Kathy, you understand the situation perfectly. I applaud you for being involved and concerned regarding this very alarming issue. I have been speaking about this at Town Board meetings for 2 years now. This is not chicken little! This is a cold, hard reality! EVERYONE needs to be involved to prevent us from being squeezed out by NYC....that is their ultimate goal. Craig
November 22, 2008 09:24:31 Kathy The Downeast Group is conducting a study on behalf of the County to try and project what is going to happen after the city acquires the additional land and then re-files the tax status. They had one slide that showed a dramatic drop in tax base that will take place in 10 years. The Downeast Group is projecting a 300% tax increase (after 10 years) for all the residents of Delaware County if the next phase of the LAP goes through. If anyone that is reading this has a different understanding of the situation, please correct me if I mis-stated anything here. This is new to me. Mr. Brown from the Downeast Group also said that you could e-mail comments to him at I will try to post if I hear about any more meetings. Downeast Group also has a blog at
November 22, 2008 09:19:02 Kathy Hi Bertimouse! Yes, you are missing something - good detective work! I had trouble posting so I e-mailed Grumpy and he posted my message on the 12th and then had his webmaster put up the announcement on the front page. Check the November Town meeting minutes for information about the LAP (Land Acquisition Program). What I took away from the Walton meeting is that under the LAP the city has purchased land in the watershed from willing sellers as part of their filtration avoidance agreement. Now the City is looking to begin another phase of the LAP, to spend an additional $300 million to purchase even more land in the watershed. This land will also be purchased from willing sellers. The problem for all residents of the County of Delaware is with the tax base. Initially, when the City purchases the land, they pay the same amount of tax on it (what it was assessed at) for 10 years. After 10 years, they are allowed to change the status of the land to "vacant" (lower taxes b/c they don't allow ANY development of that land whatsoever). The tax on that land drops dramatically and the County is left looking to the remaining property owners to "make up the difference". (continued)
November 22, 2008 01:38:10 Mom   And Also from Sidney and Sidney Center, Hanna Wood, Kyle McMillan, Randy Groat, Josiah Clark, Thomas Hoskins, Taylor Krom, Vanessa Stoian So your point is ?
November 21, 2008 23:26:48 CHARLES   Did you know... Shana Gascon, Jillian Young, Derek Northrop, were the first 8th grade students of the month at Sidney Central school that were educated at Masonville Elementary School? Do you still think it was a good idea to close Masonville elementary school?
November 21, 2008 22:48:14 bertimouse   Greetings Kathy, 1) I never understood your first message from 11/12. Please explain to me how you can attach files for others on this message board as maybe I'm missing something here? -I take it that you are talking about grants which is a great thing for all of us that can qualify. 2)What is your "current important news" on the "first page" on your 11/15 post about eh? 3)Can you please report to me/us on-line about the 11/17th meeting at Walton on the State of Delaware County's Economic Development? Please do tell Lady. 4)I give you seven stars ******* for having the courage & commitment for that & posting, Kathy. :)
November 20, 2008 08:09:57 LOLKITTY   blahhhhhhhh
November 15, 2008 07:55:01 Kathy For anyone that might have missed the "Current Important News" on the first page, please make sure you check it out. It is the Delaware County Department of Economic Development press release that I was referring to in the November 12th post here. The meeting that is closest to Masonville is Monday, November 17th at the Walton High School and it starts at 6:30pm.
November 15, 2008 00:30:05 bertimouse   China currently has a 2 TRILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS right now & yet they have the GALL to ask us to give them money to bail them out - 1)Because they say their money problems are "all our fault"?!? 2)To help them pay for THEIR pollution controls, because we caused most of it therefore they shouldn't be doing the same things we are even though they are causing most of it now?!? - LOL please boycott all CHINESE products everywhere. Unfortunately that means almost all products sold by our local gas-stations, KMart, WalMart & Dollar stores nowadays, err. The GOOD NEWS is that we have our own local Masonville General Store that we all can shop at for natural foods, hardware items & really nice Christmas presents made in the u.s.a. Please support & keep our money local by shopping there instead.************ I don't think I've ever seen anything in there with a "made in China" sticker on it. And anyone else that has a business in this town should advertise on this Message Board yes? We in my household will try & keep our cash local this winter for sure. Have a great hunting wknd. :) :)
November 12, 2008 23:48:03 Peter Sucharski Regarding the wind energy in Masonville, I agree that the wind resources are not the strongest in the country. Any calm day means: no production of power. Such interruption can be translated into poor reliability. However, problems of this nature are everywhere with wind farms. To overcome it, large wind farms have fuel burning generators that support power production during calm days. Well, I have better idea. Just in few year solar panels will be twice as much efficient and will cost half price. This means, 4 x more energy for each dolar spent. A combination of wind and solar will become a winner. But the wind turbine must be large-scale, 2-3MW, placed of the top of a hill. Is there anyone who would like to join me?
November 12, 2008 11:45:31 Kathy   This is Kathy Klopchin writing to you. I live over on the south side of Masonville, just off of Route 8 in Whitman. I was at the last Town Board meeting and have been trying to follow up on the County sponsored meetings that Craig was talking about. I have been in touch with Lori Paulson, Grants Manager Trainee of the Delaware County Department of Economic Development. She sent me the attached press release which the County has just sent out to many of the local newspapers and radio stations. So far, from what Lori said, she only received acknowledgement from The Daily Star and a couple of radio stations that they received and will publish it, although probably not until tomorrow or Friday. That's unfortunate because the meetings start on Monday!
November 10, 2008 10:26:08 LOL   The Board has seems rather dead and quiet since the elections. Everyone still in shock? Or, have you all gone into hiding? Don't fear. As soon as our President-Elect takes the oath of office there will be a blinding flash of light and everything will be cured from the economy to warts.
November 06, 2008 11:15:47 Grumpy Ernst Keidel Masonville now has its own JUDGE JUDY! At yesterday’s Town Council meeting, our court clerk Judy Jackson was appointed Town Justice. When she is ready to “sit” court, after attending Judicial Institute classes, she will have to do so without a court clerk as efficient and capable as herself. I admit to being quite disappointed, for I had wished this appointment for myself and had looked forward to working with a super clerk like Judy.
November 06, 2008 07:12:36 George Denys I have flown with rep's from two "Big" wind companies and have been told by both that Masonville is unacceptable for that. Just trying to put any concerns or false hopes to rest. George
November 05, 2008 20:24:14 bertimouse   LOL,sorry I misunderstood. I'll be contacting Peter. I guess if one were in the business of selling wind power Masonville would not be a good customer if the average yearly wind figure was under 13 mph I think the figure is for those big megawatt generators like they have up North. The Town of Masonville might be able to generate enough wind energy on it's own with maybe two or three smaller generators placed in the best wind locations but it would only supplement electricity during the winter months & I agree with you - WAY TOO expensive. While it would put Masonville in the forefront of Delaware County & create all kinds of new jobs, we'd have to raise BIG funds to maintain all kinds of "infrastructure" for that.***The simpler option is for smaller wind "gennies" as they call them-similar to the old windmills used for well pumping in days of old but with much better designs nowadays-hooked up on a small scale for families that have windy hills. If they had excess "wind" power then they could hook their neighbors up. These smaller gennies only need 6-12 mph to operate,& almost everyone has that kind of wind during the winter here. All it takes to set up this small kind of individual system is a 20-40 foot free-standing tower,(or not-my brother has a six foot pole mounted on top of his house)a small genny or two & a bunch of batteries all wired up & protected properly. My brother uses golf-cart batteries he bought cheap on-line.***This technology is exciting & NY State offers allot of FREE know-how,tax breaks,even grants for homeowners. Check out NYSERDA for that. "Little wind" as we call it has little start up costs for the individual homeowner, BIG benefits in saving electrical &/or water heating costs during the winter "wind" season months...& for the other seasons there is "Hydro" & Solar power. LOL would you like to hear about the potential Masonville has for Hydro energy? We love talking about wind/water & solar power.(p.s.-I haven't talked about wood burning 'cause I'm personally allergic to it's dust,& can't physically chop wood anymore but am all for it if folks keep safe.) Sorry LOL,for talking so much about this so-called "free" alternative energy.It's not&now I have to Blow,Sniff& Nuff said, eh? ;) ;) :)
November 04, 2008 08:17:28 LOL   Bertimouse - I,personally, know very little about wind power. I was speaking of a person who is in the business of solar and wind power. He stated that any sort of wind generation in this area (not every point of Masonville, but in general) wind would not be a good investment due to costs.
November 03, 2008 22:37:38 bertimouse   Hi LOL & Peter S. - To Peter: If you represent "Big Wind" coming into Masonville then you would have to speak to our Town Board & Master Plan Committee about bringing anything in like that here. If you are suggesting "small-wind" projects JUST for our town & homes I'd suggest you do the same thing but then we'd be all for it! Dear LOL, you don't need allot of coin or wind to do this-my brother in Colorado put a system in for only $600.**** There are folks here in town that already know way more about wind & water power systems than I do. These systems should be developed in a SMALL SCALE for our own town-is my view so that we can be independent if we need to be;we can be this way with individual wind, water power & good wood-husbandry management. It's a little like going back to the old times with a little of the new technology.
November 03, 2008 19:20:08 LOL   Wind power. Good idea but when I inquired about wind power in this area I was told it was a very poor wind area. The persons I spoke with estimated one would need a tower in the 200 to 300 foot range to get adaquate wind to generate much of anything. Seems the inital outlay would far outstrip any savings in the near future.
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