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January 11, 2011 21:51:22 taxpayer   It really is good to know someone is thinking of our county farms, life sure would be difficult without them. We also would be missing a lot of good people that make things enjoyable for the rest of us, such as the Del. Co Fair which we all enjoy.
January 11, 2011 20:57:39 Craig DuMond   The Town has and will continue to support our local farmers. We have passed many pro-agriculture resolutions and have engaged in discussions on the issue. Last June for Dairy Month we passed a resolution and issued a proclamation to the Scott Family Dairy Farm for their 100 years of service. The Board continues to support the agriculture tax exemption for our farmers that are left. Moreover, the County Board of Supervisors is very pro-agriculture as well. Our latest accomplishment was beating back the Feds on the Chesapeake Bay TMDL and storm water restrictions they wanted to make. More work must be done and I will continue to be diligent and fight for our family farms. I grew up around farms, was a member of the FFA and worked on a farm my entire adolescent years. My wife is a 4-H Leader and active with the Cornell Cooperative Extension. She also owns and operates a horse farm. As far as drilling is concerned, I am pro safe-drilling. I believe we can safely extract these precious resources without the horrible catastrophes that has happened elsewhere as no one has the restrictions we have here in NYS. The vast majority of our farmers support drilling and the local economy is in desperate need of a shot in the arm. The farmers have been good stewards of our land for generations and I do not see why that would change now.
January 11, 2011 19:41:57 bertimouse   Hi Les: I totally appreciate our webmaster for allowing my extra words! Don't know how to "text" like the kids do & can't understand most of that anyway. I know some stuff though; like "LOL" (Laughing out loud) & OMG (Oh My God). Yesterday I learned "WTH" (What the HE--). Dumb. Anyway Les, your discussion with Dee about the 1995 law was cool & Lee is right. Maybe we should change it. Or maybe not. At least it's talked about now & Thank you. YOU made my day. Thanks for that. :)
January 11, 2011 19:32:34 bertimouse   local: It's a good thing that flatlanders throw their money around here. We need that. Allot. Your right in saying that most are very nice. We hope that most care about "us". The problem seems to be that they try to throw their weight around as well without understanding the local dynamics which upsets us here. We here in MV since '02 totally understand the hardships of local land owners & have been trying since 1993(from Unadilla) to connect farmers to new ways to make themselves "viable" again. If our farms become "weekend homes" the way of life & wildlife will be ruined for many types of different folk. We Clearly Don't Want That, Yes? So it's not just TOM but Delaware County that is almost PAST the crossroads now. We've lost SO MANY FARMS already & continue to lose more EVERY YEAR! Forgive me local, but we here think that the TOM Supervisor has not done enough yet to help local farmers NOW & cares more about helping to lease & sell all your land to developers & drillers who will Yes be "Friends of Gas Drilling" & "Development" -but TOM has NO real contingency plan [yet] for the "FRIENDS OF POISON WATER" & the "Friends of Higher Taxes because of increased Town Highway & support" Taxes if the spit hits the fan, you know? Nuff said. Are you listening Craig?
January 11, 2011 18:59:18 bertimouse   Hi taxpayer: I personally apologize to you because I misunderstood your comment. Unfortunately there are less folks like you. We personally feel good after a job well done; whether it's at home or work. Sadly we find more people(usually younger spoiled folks & elderly folk who have no outside help for whatever reasons)just Don't Care anymore because of other things that are more important to them. Today at work just before leaving, I received a "Thank You-YOU MADE MY DAY" phone call. Well, that MADE MY DAY THAT I MADE HIS DAY, you know? There is a ripple effect. THAT guy is going to go home & be happy with his folks, & so on & so on. One folk that I know(& try to stay away from)actually enjoys the opposite. It "makes THEIR day" to make folk miserable! Now that's just not right & only continues a cycle of well, you know. It's the same old story man, Goodness over Evil, Light against the Darkness. We here like to think that TOM is mostly in the former rather than the later. Again, forgive me neighbor & bless you for what you do.
January 11, 2011 09:53:59 local   mostly talking about local land owners who have a hard time keeping large amounts of land, guess i dont know enough about the issue to blame anybody.dont hate outsiders most are very nice. and yes i do fear change because what are we going to do when all the farms are turned into weekend homes?
January 11, 2011 08:37:38 taxpayer   Bertimouse, I do not assume too much, I have lived in this town over 70 years and do know how many of us think. The last I would do is offend any one of my many friends, what I meant was, Storm and winter clean up is a difficult job and not all of us are physically able to do the cleanup. If some neighbors would help to clean others lawns, which I do, it would make that person feel better about themselves knowing how nice it looks to all, including themselves. Stop looking at the negative side of things and get away from the computer long enough to help some one instead of finding fault.
January 11, 2011 01:58:02 Les   Thanks bertimouse for not asking for examples.I would have tested the 255 word limit with a bunch of ranting.Like Dee said (thanks Dee this is how I feel too)"laws are both good and bad.This law was passed in 1995 and perhaps what we need to look at is changing the laws."I kinda said this myself.I'm not personally "close friends" with the Grays, but their from Masonville and consider them "friends" just like all my neighbors.If anyone from Masonville is persecuted in my opinion unjustly I will defend them.I keep my house neat and tidy and cleaned up,but I have had my share of junk cars and big messes, and didn't give a *CENSORED* what others thought of me so I'm hopefully never going to be a hypocrite.God made ten commandments, since then man made thousands!
January 10, 2011 20:59:27 wshbown   thanks bertimouse
January 10, 2011 19:16:23 bertimouse   Hi wshb...: "WRE" location: Go down route 8 North towards Sidney till you hit the intersection of rtes. 8 & 7 at the traffic light. (HESS gas station is on the NW corner.) Hang a right onto rte. 7 towards Sidney & then make the first left about 1/10 of a mile after your turn. Make the first right & you'll be there.
January 10, 2011 19:06:32 bertimouse   Les: Holy Stupid Laws, Batman! No need to remind us here about Dumb A_ _ (DA) State & Fed laws. Thank God TOM still has folks who still 1)Can think/review & discuss issues first before voting/enacting. 2)Wave to their neighbors 3)Know how to help out & pull together during emergencies. 4)Most important: CARE about HERE, you know? Nuff said.
January 10, 2011 19:02:10 wshbown   thanks for all the info all i have is construction debri on a trailer .can you tell me were the wre site is thanks again
January 10, 2011 18:56:13 bertmouse   wshbown: The Delaware County landfill is the last best deal around. When we bought our place we spent 6 months cleaning out all the tires & JUNK that the former owners abandoned there. Yours truly was there every Saturday & became almost on a first name basis with the good folks there. You have to prove you're a resident of the county & on Saturdays they're only open until about 2pm, so because it's a 25 minute one-way ride(25 miles?)from TOM figure 3 pu truckloads a day if you have no other help with loading/unloading & all. -Tires there with no rims are free. Tires with rims on them-they charge you for but if you can get someone to cut the tires off the rims with a saws-all then you can dump both for 0$. Construction debris they weigh but sometimes if it's just a little bit mixed in with your garbage, they'll flag you through if your honest about it. Kitchen garbage=free. Recyclables,TVs/METAL=free. Also recyclables/used clothes/shoes=free. Don't know about refrigerators & stuff with freon. PAINT CANS have to be empty/filled with sand. The closest place to TOM is the "WRE" transfer station in Sidney which charges $3 per 30-gallon clear garbage bag from Delaware Co. but they're only open till noon on Saturdays. They also charge for any construction debris including metal. Recyclables for free though one time the lady there told me that it was "their company policy" to not except only recyclables-you must "Pay" for at least one bag of garbage as well during your recycling visit. Huh. Never heard of THAT policy I said. She let me dump our recyclables anyway that day. Hope our experience helps your choices. :)
January 10, 2011 18:28:58 Robin Little   The dump is open Tuesday thru Saturday. It is just before the State DOT sheds. You can take recyclable cans, plastic and glass besides household garbage. Also, newspapers (separated, Shiny and regular), clean cardboard. There are clothing bins too. However you need to be advised that you have to throw stuff into the appropriate bins and if you use a truck the load must be covered. There are people there to direct you and answer any questions. Just stop at the trailer and tell them what you have.
January 10, 2011 01:11:57 Les   Bertimouse the town might not have too many bs laws but the state and feds do.If you can't think of any examples,I sure can.
January 10, 2011 01:07:34 Les   Household trash,free.Construction debris,and tv\'s electronics,furniture,tires,there is a fee.
January 10, 2011 00:30:52 CrzyFlea   the dump is east of walton, on route 10. its on the right hand side. the turn is where the road widens to having 2 lanes temporarily.
January 09, 2011 18:28:28 wshbown   were is the dump and is it free
January 08, 2011 23:43:29 Les   You can take trash like, I do to the delaware county dump for free.Like I said for free minus the cost of liquid gold "gas".
January 08, 2011 23:34:08 Les   I think the 225 word limit means in one post.
January 08, 2011 23:28:48 bertimouse   By The Way; I thought there was a 225 word limit to this bulletin board? Webmaster please update me on your policy, Thanks.
January 08, 2011 23:27:04 bertimouse   It's a new decade folks. We've got a great little TOM & a great Super always on the watch. Go to the Board mtgs. & stop b.ing here. If you REALLY want to be a biochie - you just have to attend the monthly TOM mtgs, you know? They are great & this is why I love Masonville the most. Everyone will listen to you.
January 08, 2011 23:18:05 bertimouse   to City folk: About your trash talk - %15 is the amount for trash pickup. It's something that maybe you cannot understand that folks here just cannot afford every month. DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND about what poor and/or self sustaining really means? I think not.
January 08, 2011 23:14:57 bertimouse   truth seeker: Sorry but we here think that you are a big sexist pig dog. Clear here that you either had nor loved a sister.
January 08, 2011 23:12:07 bertimouse   taxpayer: Not take offense? How dare you. Who are you. Who are us to you? "Make me a better person"? In everyone's eyes? Make them feel better about themselves? Who's "friends home" and who are you talking about and in what situation? You assume WAY too much.
January 08, 2011 23:08:39 bertimouse   To Local: You Make No Sense. As to why "we locals might get a little mad" about down staters throwing their "inflated money around?" Do you really think you can't afford to pay your taxes because of down staters moving here? Please do explain why.
January 08, 2011 23:05:32 bertimouse   Dee Cutting: It's a New Decade, New year & time for new talk; thanks for your good thoughts.
January 08, 2011 23:04:05 bertimouse   To Bob Jackson: Inflated money paid for old farm land? Are you serious? What are you doing with your land now besides letting it lie fallow growing scrub trees & no longer being farmed anymore, eh? Are you at least plowing to grow some hay? You suck if you think that you are doing something good for MV by just paying your freaking taxes.
January 08, 2011 22:59:21 bertimouse   Les: TOM doesn't have too many b.s. laws. get over it.
January 08, 2011 22:57:22 bertimouse   Rich: Ditto here.
January 07, 2011 08:22:28 Rich   CJR - Thanks for the info. I'll give him a call. To all - I love Masonville and all it's local charm. I guess it's my Navy training but I like to keep my house and property neat and clean. It doesn't matter where you live, city or county. I see it as pride of ownership.
January 07, 2011 07:59:19 taxpayer   For some reason picking up the "stuff" on our lawns does make us seem like better people and that would probably help the situation at our friends home. Maybe they will read this not take offense and work at this situation to "better" themselves in everyones eyes and in the long run make them feel better about themselves also.
January 07, 2011 04:44:27 Les   If the people of Masonville think about who lives where in town and where they are from we will realize we are made up of many "out of towners".Some have lived in Masonville most of my life,I grew up with their kids that lived here most of their lives too.Two of my close neighbors are from the city and Jersey,some of the nicest most neighborly people I ever met.My family have lived in Masonville a few generations,I've been here most of my 35 years.But my father in law,who was born in the city,and returned to work for awhile,and still has family there has only lived here maybe 60 of his 73 years.Does that make him a flatlander?To pick on the city folk is no diffrent then picking on lifetime residents who live as they wish instead of fitting the mold of what the unhappy people would like to see.Getting with the times and complying with new and newer laws is one of the things hurting America.
January 06, 2011 22:02:10 city folk   yes you are correct .but we all work hard at our jobs, and some own there own business .it doesnt take much and doesnt require money to go outside and pick up your trash, junk or whatever and take it to the curb and let the garbage men take it away. i bet you if they did this people would leave them alone and cut them some slak
January 06, 2011 19:38:44 taxpayer   city folk, what you say is true but it still does not hurt to be supportive of our all of our Masonville residents.
January 06, 2011 19:17:14 city folk   traffic laws change , building codes change ,saftey codes change , we all have to follow them whether we like it or not .so you have to get with the times or get fined . if you cant bring your business up to code or follow the law then you shouldnt be in business.grandfathered in or not.
January 06, 2011 14:29:51 CJR   Rich: Talk to TOM @ 607-265-3266 - He lives just out side of Masonville. on rt -8 . He does a great Job.
January 06, 2011 12:53:24 local   your right probably just jealous,but not an angry vandal.
January 06, 2011 12:52:58 taxpayer   Money seems to be the bottom line for all of us, whether we are working, retired or on disability we all need money to survive. The idea to help figure out a solution to keep the Gray's in business is great and the town board and Mr. DuMond can do the most to succeed with this job, good luck to them. Also. when the gas lines go thru our township maybe that money will help us all or give some people more to find fault about.
January 06, 2011 12:38:48 Rich   Haapy New Year! I have few large fallen Hemlocks on my property that are too nice to just cut up and let rot. Does anyone know of someone with a saw mill who may want to come and take the trees?
January 06, 2011 11:16:56 Dee Cutting   Hello again. Can anyone answerer this for me...Do you think the chamber or commerce will assist us with the TOM 200th anniversary? How does that work? They are involved with Sidney days and sponsor it. Just looking for some support to get the ball rolling on the most spectacular celebration Masonville has ever seen!!! LOL...sorry just a little enthusiastic. Thanks for any info in advanced.
January 06, 2011 10:38:57 truth seeker   Does the junk yard fall under the grandfather law?? Seems like it does. This is not to attack anyone or call names, it is just to help out a neighbor who has help many in this community. They volunteer at the church you all attend, walk through the yard with you looking for a part for your car or tractor because you can't afford to pay what the big businesses are asking. you are correct in identifying a law that need revising, and how do we do that...take another 2-3 years debating this issue. "no one wants to put the grays out of business" is what you say, however...try saying this "how do we keep the grays in business?" they are not targets? OK then work to fix it...if you are true to your word Mrs. Ryan then lets see it. Believing is seeing...and I don't believe you!
January 06, 2011 09:33:42 name with held   enough already, did you read what you just wrote? Citi folk work hard for thier money. They do not throw it around. If they did how, could they afford to buy a home up here and pay full taxes. If you believe local folks do not have money ask yourself why. Could it be that some are afraid of change? Fight for Industry, Fight to keep NYC out, Fight to keep the local charm. Greys junk yard can be part of that charm. But make sure that it is safe. Folks smoked for years, doesn't make it smart and I am glad for them that most recognize that and don't blame the surgeon general for bringing it to thier attention. Change can be good. So fight a good fight but don't fight each other. Don't fight the citi folk who are paying taxes without any exemptions and for the most part do not get any benefit from them. I don't want my house vandalized while I am not there for speaking my mind, sad that us citi folk have to consider that.
January 06, 2011 08:49:10 local   if down staters didnt throw their [inflated money] around then locals might be able to afford to pay their taxes. dont blame city folk from wanting to live up here but have a little understanding as to why we locals might get a little mad.
January 06, 2011 07:32:43 Dee Cutting   Good morning everyone. Happy New Year. I attended the town board meeting last night and I would like to say a few thing. I realize that the stress over these properties has a lot of people up in arms, however, last night I sat and listened to all the members address numerous issues. And they did it well. Some things that I was uncertain about became clearer just by listening. I do not think this is personal. As Craig has said, he has lived here is whole life and I believe he and the other members are looking for a good solution that will satisfy everyone. But there are legal issues, which even the board recognizes were not previously enforce by no fault of theirs. This is not a cut and dry issue. And it is beyond me how so many people are writing such hurtful stuff about them, and in the same paragraph tell others to be nice, kind, love thy neighbor. I too moved here from Long Island. Granted I have lived here longer then I lived there, but our community is made up of a lot of people from all over...that is one of our greatest qualities...the allure of Masonville, the goodness of its residents, attracts people to want to make a better life for their families. I for one am proud of that. I do not know Kathy Ryan personally, but I believed her last night when she said this was not to hurt anyone, it is a law. Laws are both good and bad, this law was passed in 1995 and perhaps what we need to look at is changing the laws. I may get a little slap from this, but I think it is important that everyone is heard. But its not enough to hear it...you must listen. I hope this will be resolved in a respectful manner, the name calling is hurtful and unnecessary. Come and listen to the board and ask your questions, I did, and they were more then willing to answer them. Blessings to all my neighbors.
January 06, 2011 06:44:28 CJR   Dam , Mr. Jackson, You got up at the wrong side of the bed ! but anyways you are right. don\'t blame the jersey folks or the city folks. I live in Northern Jersey. in Sussex County, which is 99 % Farm Land and Wooded Area. also I own a piece of land in Masonville. which we paid @ a fair price and pay taxes on. So, you hit the nail. thanks for fighting for us downstaters..
January 05, 2011 22:10:20 Bob Jackson   Like to clear up a few misconceptions!!!!!!!! How you can use the term invasion is beyond me!! Last time we bought property we payed MORE then fair price to an agent who represented that farmer at a good price. No one forced them or their children to take all that inflated money.. And as for cost to clean up one\'s property what happened to good old manpower it work\'s for me. And thanks for the information that down the street has been operating for the last few year as a junk yard. Didn\'t know there was a permit to operate already. Have you seen one? And by the way don\'t you think enough is enough about downstaters I\'m sick and tired of everyone blaming us flatlanders for all the troubles up here. We have the same right you do to live anywhere we want, we pay the same taxes as you do and have to follow the same laws. At least this is one downstaters that isn\'t afraid to use a real name as this bulletin board requests.
January 04, 2011 23:09:30 Les   The house on cole rd with the fence, the homeowners were thrown out years ago by child protective services,they had young kids.This house was nothing like the Gray\'s issue.It was more like hoarders on tv.The people who lived there,not a mean one or bad one in the bunch.The place has been drastically cleaned up already.Most of the cars are gone.This is a whole diffrent issue,not an \"eyesore\"but bad liveing conditions.
January 04, 2011 22:52:49 Les   Thank you Craig for thinking about "us""Masonville"and its diverse citizens.The fight is with us as a town not to have to live like the status quo.These bs laws in our great USA need to be reread and rethought by good common sense grassroots Americans.And put an end to politics as usual.God made ten commandments,since then man made thousands.
January 04, 2011 21:27:15 Craig DuMond   I have given these issues plenty of thought, lost a lot of sleep and struggle to balance enforcement of State laws with common sense. I have lived in this Town all my life and know almost everyone personally. No one is being singled out or picked on. The other property discussed regarding the fence; this property too is being litigated against to address the health and safety issues contained within. The fence to my knowledge (addressed long before me) what put up by the property owner, not the Town. There are numerous other properties being addressed not just the property on Steam Mill. As stated in previous posts; we are living in a litigious society, full of lawyers, ready to sue "deep pocketed" towns with a moments notice. Once we receive a legitimate complaint we dont have a choice but to address it. Lawyers and Courts do not accept "this is masonville and this is he way it has been for years" defense. No or inappropriate action equals every taxpayer being on the hook ie attorneys fees to defend allegations as well as damages regarding prevailing suits. With that being said all I can promise is to treat every case as fairly and equally as possible with the highest degree of common sense allowed by law. I a happy to discuss this with an constituent and/or hear any suggestions that may help us represent you the best way possible. Please contact me and I will be more than willing to hear you out.
January 04, 2011 15:24:09 Grumpy Ernst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com That, TX, is because that bear is now hibernating!
January 04, 2011 14:41:10 TX   It is good to see that Shears rd ,have been left alone.for a while.LOL LOL.
January 04, 2011 13:43:22 taxpayer   tuth seeker , maybe our supervisor should give this some thought.
January 04, 2011 10:39:48 truth seeker   So how is the permit issue going? I'm not to sure of the date, but not to long ago, the town put up a huge fence around a property on a dead end road who'm house, yard and family living was a dump. They couldn't get them to do it or move and there were rumors of drug traffic between that home on the hill (near a quarry) and state land. I know the peoples names but will not type it. and I am sure a number of you know what property I am talking about. So now there is a 4 way stop there and the property and all its junk and odor and filth is still there...but we put a nice fence around it so it didn't bother anyone. Out of sight out of mine...how did that all work?? Just curious to know seems like different rules for different folks. You may not care for the grays and how they live, but Marv was a good man. He was always there to help. I recall the flood and how his whole family went to the fire house and cooked for the volunteers. He would always help out his neighbor with anything that he had, and for someone who had so little, that was worth millions. How do we get the permit for the junk yard passed? Does the town vote, do we have a voice...because frankly you may be sitting in those seats that we voted you into, but you speak not for us, the people of Masonville, but for yourselves and for the city people who moved up here and believe they can take over on our town board and our town roads, and our homes...times are changing and the vote needs to change too it seems. Be for the people of your town, try to help them, not hurt them. Sad! I have sat in your meetings a listened to you all go on and on and on about stuff, and when a subject comes up that is personal to one of you, it's dismissed or you find stupid things to delay it. This is not politics its personal. Just because you hold a seat on the board, a seat we all gave you mind you, you do not have the right to dismiss most of masonville for your own agenda. everyone knows what you are doing, so it is clear that your only interest is for self or your family needs. you moved here seeing that view before you built you home, and now after how many years you finally see it??? Please...enough is enough, give them the permit. Most of the town wants it. Start the new year with peace and lets move on shall we!
January 04, 2011 07:51:35 taxpayer   Les, thank you, it is nice to see someone look as this in an unselfish way. We are a town of dirt roads, pot holes and yes, junk yards. Within reason none of these will hurt us. Seems to be the city folk on steam mill that have the issues, I am glad that they do not live on my road.
January 03, 2011 23:43:42 Les   Progress costs money.I would rather deal with some potholes to negotiate on my road,then know some poor sap has to deal with higher taxes.
January 01, 2011 21:20:49 Old Man   The comparison between Lake Cecil Rd. and Steam Mill Rd. [junk yard] was not to stir the Lake Cecil issue, but to point out that people buy property under present and surrounding conditions and then expect neighbors to change anything that does not suit them. Improvements are nice if they can be afforded, but should not have to be done under pressure from new or implanted land owners.
January 01, 2011 14:23:12 Craig DuMond   The Town is actually working on numerous code-related issues on a number of different properties. I can assure you that everyone is treated fairly, equally and with a high degree of due process. We do not want to be involved in property owners lives unless we absolutely have to be. Unfortunately, in these days and times, once we receive a complaint if we do take take appropriate action we subject ourselves to liability. i.e. every taxpayer being on the hook. We always do everything possible to apply the highest degree of common sense and afford the owner every attempt to rectify the situation and/or work things out prior to taking further action. Feel free to contact me at any time to discuss.
January 01, 2011 12:05:28 taxpayer   Maybe the town board and Supervisor should drive around town and look on the hillsides,valleys and yes,even the back yards for more than one junk car and if these residents have not applied for a junk yard permit they should or they should be treated like the Gray family is being treated. How many times have any of us needed a car part and made some calls to junk yards to find that part cheaper than at an auto parts store? Please lets be friends and treat all equally.
January 01, 2011 10:39:22 Craig DuMond   p.s. Much work has been put into Lake Cecil over the years and we will continue to maintain the road on a annual basis as needed.
January 01, 2011 10:36:38 Craig DuMond   In regard to the Lake Cecil resident; My statement was not made out of frustration but by means of considering dollars and cents. Lake Cecil is a dead end and has always been a dirt road and contains very few residents. The gentleman requested the entire road be paved, which is just not fiscally possible. We have many more through roads in terrible condition that need our attention first. I simply told the gentleman it would be impossible to do and unless something changes with the situation dont expect the road to be paved anytime in the future. Even though I sympathize with his position I could not be anything but frank and honest about the situation. The Town Board has been looking at improvements over the last few years; the pole barn (finally) to protect the Town's equipment from the elements being one and finally updating the Town Hall another. We continue to invest in our roads based on a fairly established priority list and maintain a well-equipped highway department. We are always open to suggestions for continuous improvement as no single person has all the answers but collectively we can accomplish a lot. Happy New Year to you and yours and may the bicentennial be a grand one!
January 01, 2011 01:04:03 Lynn   Hi Old Man. I can\'t believe you remember what Craig said to the resident on Lake Cecil Road. I also remember it, but not so fondly. I got the impression that maybe the resident was pestering Craig and that was why he answered without any thought. Not only should the TOM roads be maintained for all of its taxpayers it should also look towards progress.
December 31, 2010 20:45:51 Les   My neighbors are people,not houses,or front yards.
December 31, 2010 16:35:28 tazpayer   Observer- This is true and only shows that as time passes we all learn to accept change and make the best of it. Happy New Year to all.
December 31, 2010 12:30:17 Old Man   If I am correct, Craig told the resident from Lake Cecil Rd. that the road was a gravel road when he moved there and will remain gravel for a long time to come, the same should be true for the junk yard issue on Steam Mill Rd, after all, the 3rd generation is still operating this business.
December 31, 2010 11:01:56 Observer   Taxpayer - Keep in mind it was the farmer next door who sold the land to build the new house on.
December 31, 2010 08:57:19 taxpayer   To all worried about how our wonderful Masonville may look. If your house is under60 years old, you invaded the farmland that made this town. How do you think the farmer next door felt when that new house was built? Maybe they felt they did not like what they saw and it was hurting the land with the new that they brought and all the new people and their doings. We all need to live with change and deal with the ones left who are still making a living the way their grandfathers and great grandfathers did. So lets get along.
December 31, 2010 06:54:21 Tony - CR-20   Wishing everyone in Masonville Health; Wealth and Happiness in 2011!
December 31, 2010 00:15:32 CrzyFlea   Funny there is such a fuss about a 3rd generation junk yard. If I\'m not mistaken, there was even a junk yard in that location before Eldred purchased it. Seems now though we\'ve got arrogant nosey ninnies moving into the area who don\'t know how to look out to the right going up a hill and left when going down it but boy are they good at looking down their nose. Don\'t you think the Gray\'s would be the first ones concerned with the potential contaminants going into the ground, its their water it would get to first. Doesn\'t seem like they\'ve got bad water at all though - maybe you should try it and find out. Furthermore, I don\'t know how many a times there are locals who wouldn\'t have a working vehicle if it hadn\'t been for that junk yard and Eldred, Marv or Steve.
December 30, 2010 21:50:30 bertimouse   Speaking of roads being trashed by various sources: just wait until they start drilling for gas; all ye who are "friends of gas drilling" - Our house calls 'em "friends of Poison Water" amoung other things. Folks; yall need to calm down & be at Peace for 2011. Stay Positive. Love Thy Neighbor. PRAYER always helps. Try it as a scientific test, if you will. Things WILL always get better if only you will just believe it will & work towards that end. Find out what YOU can do to Help, not hinder, you know? TOM, here's wishing us one & all the best for this next decade. May every one of us do better with everything we do because we are strong, independent, brave & proud of our community. Have a safe & Happy New Year TOM. -Nuff said.
December 29, 2010 14:56:53 Masonville resident   Old Man--you certainly are right, the town does make the most trips up that road and any other town road in the winter. So if we don't want loggers or scrap trucks traveling our roads we don't want them plowed either. So maybe we should all learn how to drive like the old folks from Masonville and not like City Folk !!
December 29, 2010 14:50:12 Old Man   Maybe we should ask the Highway Dept. to stay off of steam mill rd. plowing a 1/2 in. of snow if everyone is worried about the truck traffic doing damage to this road. Not that long ago, snow was plowed when it was 6 to 12 inches deep and everyone handled it just fine.
December 29, 2010 14:08:35 taxz payer   truth seeker--very well said,why can't we all just look the other way if we don't like someone or something, we all have neighbors we do not care for ( if not we are very lucky} So lets all grow up and forget about the "Steam Mill Issue"
December 29, 2010 10:21:29 TOM Webmaster   Truth Seeker - You will find a copy of the TOM Junk regulations posted on the official TOM site. You can get to it easy by going to the Home Page of this site and clicking on the "Official Link".
December 29, 2010 09:54:40 truth seeker   Just curious...what are the local requirements regarding the Grays junk yard. I keep reading and hearing about these "local requirements" but when Ms. Ryan was asked to show them she would not and told people to get their own copies! hmmmmm something stinks of prejudicial politics if you ask me. From the minutes in october "Bob Jackson asked about the application for the Grays Junkyard permit. Craig stated that it was a License given by the State not a permit by the Town. Bob explained that Steam Mill Road is all ready bad enough and wonders what might happen to the road if it experiences increased truck traffic. Craig responded that it the road is damaged; the Town can recover associated costs from the owner/operator/etc. Craig reported that Kathy will give a full report during the committee reports." (So did we get any $$ from the loggers?? ah road damage? Its a dirt road for the love of god. Its been *CENSORED* for over 30+ years...)"Kathy Ryan reported that Steven Gray has got 2 permits-an Auto repair shop & Scrap collection business. Kathy also stated that according to NYS to get a license the application for permit should have included the Towns ordinances or laws. Kathy explained this means the landowner must first apply to the Town for approval and must still abide by the Town Laws. Kathy has FOILED the State for copies of everything submitted to the State regarding the license. The CEO reported he will be working with Kathy and the Town attorney regarding this issue." Ok great...so what happens now if he applies for town approval?? Just wondering...where can these reports be seen and viewed by the people of Masonville, I would imagine they are now part of the public record, right? Or does the board want everyone in masonville to get their own copies. Really?? Come on. Grow up and stop throwing stones in your glass houses...no one is without their "issues" and "past"...just some are kinder and don't go after others publicly because they don't like the way they live, look or exist!!! Grow up.
December 29, 2010 05:56:20 Grumpy Ernst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com And yet, Observer, there ARE restrictions. One may not carry inside schools and government buildings. This means I have to secure my firearms inside my vehicle gunsafe even if I just enter the post office to mail something. And of course, the BIG restriction displayed right on the back of the license: THOU SHALT NOT CARRY YOUR WEAPON IN NYC! Naturally, this is quite ironic, as NYC is the place you may need it most!
December 27, 2010 12:05:36 Observer   Mr Keidel mentions something in his note that I hear a lot around the area. He mentions he is licensed to carry a concealed firearm. To the best of my knowledge Delaware county does not issue restricted permits. I have held a Delaware county permit since 1958 and it has no restrictions nor have I ever seen a Delaware county permit with restrictions unless they have started issuing them recently. I know some of the surrounding counties do issue permits on that basis. I recall while living in Suffolk county the authorities there attempted to tell us that our upstate permits were not valid there but a letter from the Superintendent of State Police soon got that straightened out. Thus saying one is licensed to carry concealed in Delaware county is redundent. Although I will say carrying a weapon concealed on your person in this day and age could get ya killed and not by the bad guy either. LOL
December 25, 2010 13:28:16 Grumpy Ernst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com Best of the season's greetings to all. This holiday has been quite peaceful so far, as it should be. In the past week, we've had house guests. My brother-in-law was visiting from Seoul, Korea and my eldest son came up from Massachusetts. Number One Son Armin set a lot of things right with my computer and made a worthwhile visit with me to my favorite gun shop in Oneonta. He too is licensed to carry concealed, albeit in MA. A couple of days ago, everybody cleared out, leaving me alone with the cats. Armin had to return to his fire-fighting job in Fitchburg, MA and wife and niece went to see brother/father off at JFK. He's in the air now and my ladies are on their way back to me. I've missed them! I do love my Steam Mill Road solitude.
December 25, 2010 00:07:35 RangerDanger   Merry Christmas everyone!
December 24, 2010 22:15:52 Les   Merry Christmas everyone!,,"and on earth peace and goodwill towards men".God bless everyone.
December 24, 2010 22:09:31 Les   Well said Observer.The way I look at it,if these citizens of the United States,New york,Masonville,pay taxes and are happy with their lives,let them live the way they choose.An "eye sore" is not something physically harming anyone.Your eyes are going to be fine.
December 23, 2010 22:26:23 CCJR   WHY CAN\"T WE ALL GET ALONG IN THIS MERRY HOLIDAY ???? MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR !
December 23, 2010 18:32:57 Masonville resident forever   to observer, you are right and all we can do is set an example for others. Some always live with some junk, but that does not make them bad people. Lets all just be friends and get along.
December 23, 2010 16:26:20 Observer   Come on folks. While no one likes some of the properties we might see in the area lets face it; Masonville is NOT on the list of 10 most exclusive zip codes nor is it a planned gated community. People tend to live the way they see best for themselves not the way others might want them to live. All we can do is be an example to others and encourage others to take pride in the community but we will always have those who live in a manner others might not find to their liking.
December 23, 2010 15:41:09 CCJR   to MV resident forever: Is not about how much you make or have in the bank, is just clean up the property. take all trash , eye sore,motors, crush cars ,etc. of the front lawns, just keep it neat and clean, you dont have to spend money to keep your place clean, if you cannot have haul away , just burn it ! no money required... so, is not money/income issuse, its just people like to live in dump and people are pack rats !. theres a big eyesore coming west on 206 right before rt 8 interchange theres a junk yard on the right, and once you turn on to rt 8 south theres another junk/mess on the left after the church.. come on,people wake up and clean MV UP..! ps: am sorry if I offend anyone but thats my 2 cents,!
December 23, 2010 09:23:56 Masonville resident forever   the ones with the most comments on our unhealthy properties seem to have moved here within the past 15 or so years. You moved here because Masonville was a wonderful community, so stop trying to start trouble and yes it was nice then, because we all got along and there was not a lot of back stabbing. If you do not like how something looks try to remember that not all of us have a great retirement check and we are making a living the way we always have, by hard work. Maybe the town board members,the ones who attend the meetings and those who comment on this message should help the less fortunate and quit complaining.
December 23, 2010 06:13:21 downslope   Yea my water stinks to.
December 22, 2010 01:40:28 RangerDanger   My water must be bad then. I never achieved honor roll once I got into highschool. I suppose I stopped caring about my grades. I spent more time chasing tail than studying in the last few years.
December 19, 2010 23:00:26 Les   Congrats Grumpy!My oldest daughter was on the 'superintendents' list (high,high honor roll),first quarter of Sidney junior high.Must be our water in Masonville is still good?
December 19, 2010 16:10:50 Grumpy Ermst Keidel CDR.Keidel@gmail.com Korean Visitor! Anyone driving past my home on Steam Mill Road, may have noticed the Korean flag flying beneath my usual Stars and Stripes. My brother-in-law Kim, Jae In is visiting this week from Seoul. He is my darling Hayo's brother as well as the father of our lovely niece Kim, Nam Kyung. Nammy has lived with us for almost three years already and hopes to graduate from Sidney High this year. She's been maintaining a 99.97 GPA!
December 18, 2010 16:16:41 Les   What?
December 18, 2010 14:18:47 FYI   Did you know that: 1. a copy of the NYS Fire & Building Code can be viewed at the Sidney Library in the Reference Section 2. For General Housekeeping requirements for property owners see-Chapter 3, Sec.01 of the Maintenance code 3. For all appointed officials like the Code Enforcement Officer, the Town is required to have a job description in place. See Delaware Co. \"Personnel\" Office for typical job descriptions. Includes assessor, animal control officer and hwy personnel. (www.Co.delaware.NY.US) Comments/ Suggestions CEO should have \"open hours\" to answer questions(similar to what the accessor does)
December 18, 2010 03:52:21 Les   Speaking of NJ and their anti hunters,reminds me of a true story years ago about how a park out west didn't like wolves eating their Elk.Killed all the wolves.The Elk pop. went up,they were happy.A hard winter hit and the park was left with many fewer Elk than when they had wolves.They starved to death,because the lack of natural preditation left more Elk than the land could support.And I'm NOT advocating wolves to be reintroduced in NY or NJ just let the people hunt.
December 18, 2010 03:39:52 Les   The good people of NJ have fought hard to be able to reduce the bear pop.The bear are known to break into cars for food,no garbage can or dumpster is safe.They will break into garages if garbage cans or pet food are stored there.Eat small pets if left outside.There deer pop. is out of control too.Evidence of this is not only from property damage,and vehicle damage,but the fact NJ can shoot as many does as they want,just have to buy tags.Shoot a doe buy another tag.The bear numbers in NJ aren't where they are because we have more proficient hunters,but the fact that they haven't been allowed to kill them for many years.Maybe we can get our pop. up if we outlaw bear hunting,and get lovely pictures of bear eating out of our bird feeders,and live in fear of letting our children play outside.Talk to a farmer and they will tell you of the destruction of their baleage and corn.
December 17, 2010 23:53:49 bertimouse   Les: I think it was more like 700 bears they got in NJ.
December 17, 2010 23:50:50 bertimouse   Thanks Les. Didn't know. Happy Hunting during the Holidays I guess. Hey did you hear they hunted over 500 bears in NJ in something like 7 days recently? Seems NJ wanted to reduce their bear population down to 3,500 bears. Seems they have MORE bears downstate than around our parts? I think DEC says we have maybe 3,000? Now that's just not right. Maybe 'cause we have better full-time hunters here? Maybe 'cause our visiting hunters are more dedicated? Maybe 'cause our forests that support bears are disappearing faster here then there? I don't know.
December 17, 2010 03:29:23 Les   I think your right cc.The rest of Masonville state land roads were much more traveled.Not just tire tracks but boot tracks all over.Seen more hunters on state lands opening day than I have in many years.I heard that bear don't truly hibernate in southern NY.I have seen bear sign throughout the winter and into april trout season.
December 16, 2010 20:44:41 bertimouse   Aren't bears supposed to be hibernating now? I thought you don't see them much after Dec. - except that one time up in Unadilla where the bird feeders & the back porch door where destroyed by something larger than a fox I can say that much!
December 16, 2010 18:21:04 CC   Les,I think all the BS about the deers and The Evil Bear around Shears rd was just someone trying to get hunters away from his area and into Shears Rd.think about it,I hunted off Shears and saw a few hunters,locals and out of state,but not many deers upthere,saw signs but not deers.
December 16, 2010 16:40:10 Observer   LOL - LOL I must have been smoking some of Bob's Pot!!! I should have said "Jacob" Marley not BOB!! LOLLOL
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